Bobby better answer some questions

[AZGrizFan]

Your analysis of the long TD run at the end of the first quarter is not accurate. No LB "goofed up". It's 3rd and 5, we are in a 4-2-5 presnap. We have three guys with "hands in the dirt" looks like 2 in a 2-3 tech and one in a 7. The other front I think is 44 and he's standing up in a 6-9 tech. Our two LB's are sitting pretty standard Will and Mike and the DB's look like we are going to drop Cover 2.
Weber is in 11 personnel. With a WR and a slot to the Play side and single wing to the boundary, pistol formation.

Pre snap we walk 17 up into a deep Sam position and roll our nickle into a straight FS alignment.

We do one of our D's favourite games which is blitz two backers through one hole, the Mike loops the Will but their tackle picks the first backer and the second gets caught in the wash. The other LB read run and reacted but is wiped out by the down blocking combo of C-G-T and TE. Both 17 and 4 read run right away but if you watch you will see that 17 assumes it's going left and his first three steps are all left and parallel to the line. This leaves him set up to the cut back and it's good night nurse.

LB got the wrong call. Can’t remember who Hauck said it was. You are so wrong about so many things it’s great. I guess this is why we need Canadians around. My Mom used to try and convince me they served a purpose and I guess she was right.

Pro tip: don’t start sounding like PR….

 

[oldrunner]

He was too late because it wasn't his responsibility. Think you should take another look.

UM was in man coverage. Ford released up to help on a shorter pass, and let his man went long for a TD. No safety responsibility or backup in that D. Safety was responsible for someone else.

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

UM was in man coverage. Ford released up to help on a shorter pass, and let his man went long for a TD. No safety responsibility or backup in that D. Safety was responsible for someone else.

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

It was Fords responsibility to stay on his man. There was no safety help. Ford bit on the underneath throw which Weber had completed for short yards all day. The QB was winding to throw it short and just made an excellent recognition play.

It doesn’t happen much but fords aggressive play got him burned on that one

 

[uofmman1122]

UM was in man coverage. Ford released up to help on a shorter pass, and let his man went long for a TD. No safety responsibility or backup in that D. Safety was responsible for someone else.

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

Yes, it was a great playcall and a very rare missed assignment from our All American.

 

[MikeyGriz]

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

It was Fords responsibility to stay on his man. There was no safety help. Ford bit on the underneath throw which Weber had completed for short yards all day. The QB was winding to throw it short and just made an excellent recognition play.

It doesn’t happen much but fords aggressive play got him burned on that one

No way, it had to be Robbie's fault! Everyone knows every completed pass against our defense is Robbie's fault!

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

It was Fords responsibility to stay on his man. There was no safety help. Ford bit on the underneath throw which Weber had completed for short yards all day. The QB was winding to throw it short and just made an excellent recognition play.

It doesn’t happen much but fords aggressive play got him burned on that one

No way, it had to be Robbie's fault! Everyone knows every completed pass against our defense is Robbie's fault!

And every missed tackle against long runs.

 

[41>37]

Puleez Robbie is the most overrated football player in the fcs. He gets plenty of breaks in the stat book and from the staff.

 

[SaskGriz]

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

It was Fords responsibility to stay on his man. There was no safety help. Ford bit on the underneath throw which Weber had completed for short yards all day. The QB was winding to throw it short and just made an excellent recognition play.

It doesn’t happen much but fords aggressive play got him burned on that one

100% agree. It looks like we were in straight man to man on the two Wides and the Slot. 17 is on the play side of the field and looks (only guessing) that he has coverage responsibilities on the TE. When the TE crosses the formation on the snap, the two safeties read it and trade him off. 4 runs up to take away the pass in the boundary flat and 17 moves down for run support because he has no more coverage responsibilities. 6 releases his guy to bite on the TE which is a shame because 4 was going to be there.

It's possible (but unlikely on a 3rd and 4) that 4 might have had deep help responsibilities if the TE stays on the play side but if that were the case, 6 would have had no reason to release his WR.

And at the risk of being called; a joke, an idiot, or even a "Canadian". Weber's two long TD's were from the exact same formation and they ran the exact same play except on the second TD the QB pulled it and threw it. The only difference was our formation. 4-2-5 on the first TD, 3-3 stack on the second. Our 5 DB's were in identical set ups on both plays, we even walk 17 up on both. It looks like the replacement LB must have been lined up wrong. There is no way a player in his set up could get to the A gap, where the play went. Griz probably should have used a TO on D there and got it corrected.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yes, it was a lb mistake. I know that from a parent of a starting lb, as well as from the coaches. It was a replacement for O'Connell. That lb may not have played the rest of the game. Man, you are really out to lunch and don't understand football or Griz football. Why do you keep embarrassing yourself?

So you are saying that 44 lined up wrong? Okay I can buy that. He's in a pretty traditional Sam set up, the TE in front of him pulls and he is engaged by the tackle. The RB cuts back into the A gap, if the Sam is off the line maybe he has gap responsibilities that far over but that's a pretty big ask if he's lined up on the line of scrimmage. A lot of traffic to get through if he's expected to clean up that far down the line. Probably should have been diagnosed from the sideline and burned a time out because with the Mike and Will running a game on the boundary side there is nobody holding down the fort in the middle of that play.

It's suppose to be a football web site so someone in the know, explain what the LB did wrong.

I'm not going to trash the kid. He made a mistake. He had come in for O'Connell. Someone told me he didn't play the rest of the game.

What you are saying is your typical BS that has little or nothing to do with what happened. I'll take the word of the coaches and some player-parents over you. Jeez.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I have no idea who's responsibility it was to provide safey help on that side of the field, but it certainly wasn't there. The LB and CB may have been in man coverage and that coverage was blown, but they may have been expecting SS help behind them. If it was a designed no help play, and those two were left on an island, then Weber ran the perfect play. Actually, that drag RPO play worked almost every time we ran it. We scored two TDs on it.

Yes, it was a great playcall and a very rare missed assignment from our All American.

As Badlands said, it wasn't necessarily the play call. It was the qb's recognition of the secondary mistake we made.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Puleez Robbie is the most overrated football player in the fcs. He gets plenty of breaks in the stat book and from the staff.

Says who, regarding your second sentence. What staff are you talking about? The staff of our road opponents?

 

[uofmman1122]

Yes, it was a great playcall and a very rare missed assignment from our All American.

As Badlands said, it wasn't necessarily the play call. It was the qb's recognition of the secondary mistake we made.

I don't know for certain, but I think that play was always going to go to MacPherson. I think the pump fake was designed.

 

[mthoopsfan]

As Badlands said, it wasn't necessarily the play call. It was the qb's recognition of the secondary mistake we made.

I don't know for certain, but I think that play was always going to go to MacPherson. I think the pump fake was designed.

Maybe, but it didn't look that way on tape to me, and I don't think Bobby thought that. It might have just been a good fake/sell. Ford just left is man immediately, tho.

 

[uofmman1122]

I don't know for certain, but I think that play was always going to go to MacPherson. I think the pump fake was designed.

Maybe, but it didn't look that way on tape to me, and I don't think Bobby thought that. It might have just been a good fake/sell. Ford just left is man immediately, tho.

Yeah, either way, pretty easy throw to make when you're that wide open.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Speaking of Bobby better answer some questions, at QB Club, after he said the O was bad against Weber, the first question was: "Why was the offense so bad?" By the way, he included coaches as also having been bad.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Maybe, but it didn't look that way on tape to me, and I don't think Bobby thought that. It might have just been a good fake/sell. Ford just left is man immediately, tho.

Yeah, either way, pretty easy throw to make when you're that wide open.

Did I get a reference?!

[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZTGJKnwIu8[/media]

 

[uofmman1122]

Yeah, either way, pretty easy throw to make when you're that wide open.

Did I get a reference?!

[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZTGJKnwIu8[/media]

:lol:

I wasn't going for a reference, but that's amazing.

One might say our offense had two left feet, last weekend.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Did I get a reference?!

[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZTGJKnwIu8[/media]

:lol:

I wasn't going for a reference, but that's amazing.

One might say our offense had two left feet, last weekend.

:lol: :thumb:

 

[oldrunner]

Puleez Robbie is the most overrated football player in the fcs. He gets plenty of breaks in the stat book and from the staff.

Says who, regarding your second sentence. What staff are you talking about? The staff of our road opponents?

I feel that Robbie is a very good player and that he is used in a very aggressive way in that defense. That is why he is one of the top tacklers on the team and probably nationwide. Weber's play calling was likely designed to take advantage of the aggressive nature of that UM defense. It doesn't always work out the way it did on that Saturday. That game was a real dog fight. :thumb:

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

It was Fords responsibility to stay on his man. There was no safety help. Ford bit on the underneath throw which Weber had completed for short yards all day. The QB was winding to throw it short and just made an excellent recognition play.

It doesn’t happen much but fords aggressive play got him burned on that one

100% agree. It looks like we were in straight man to man on the two Wides and the Slot. 17 is on the play side of the field and looks (only guessing) that he has coverage responsibilities on the TE. When the TE crosses the formation on the snap, the two safeties read it and trade him off. 4 runs up to take away the pass in the boundary flat and 17 moves down for run support because he has no more coverage responsibilities. 6 releases his guy to bite on the TE which is a shame because 4 was going to be there.

It's possible (but unlikely on a 3rd and 4) that 4 might have had deep help responsibilities if the TE stays on the play side but if that were the case, 6 would have had no reason to release his WR.

And at the risk of being called; a joke, an idiot, or even a "Canadian". Weber's two long TD's were from the exact same formation and they ran the exact same play except on the second TD the QB pulled it and threw it. The only difference was our formation. 4-2-5 on the first TD, 3-3 stack on the second. Our 5 DB's were in identical set ups on both plays, we even walk 17 up on both. It looks like the replacement LB must have been lined up wrong. There is no way a player in his set up could get to the A gap, where the play went. Griz probably should have used a TO on D there and got it corrected.

You’re right about the LB being set up wrong on the other TD. They discussed both these plays on Monday night.

LB wrong alignment. TD
Ford bites trying to make a play TD