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Bob Stitt has Earned a New Contract

Mavman said:
PlayerRep said:
uofmman1122 said:
If the Hauck years are your bar, then Delaney is as much a failure as Stitt.

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Did Delaney beat SDSU,NDSU,UNI,or EWU while he was here??? Can't remember??
Mick came in and righted the ship good on him. I liked Mick too. I just think Stitt has done a damn fine job considering he has not had a starting QB all year any of his three years. Beat Nau with 4th string QB.
His offense is producing in a big way and Defense seems to have turned the corner.
Next year Montana could be seeded going in to the playoffs and people want to blow everything up and start over.

In Delaney's last 2 seasons, the team lost only to Wyo., NDSU, EWU (3), Coastal, NAU, and CP.

Perhaps some people want to get a new coach, but I believe most people just want wins over the Cats (not 2 losses in a row), conference championships or at least being in the mix, the team to make the playoffs (not home for Thanksgiving 2 years in a row), and more wins. While a win over the Cats and playoffs may not be required for a new contract, Haslam will be taking huge heat if the Griz don't beat the Cats. I think the Griz have a better team and will win, but that is not assured. I just don't see the Cats backing down, especially after last year's game and how they have played at times this season. It's a rivalry game. Anything can happen. I would hope the Griz have a better plan to stop the Cat O this year. Assume they will.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

So, do the Griz have to finish the season and accomplish these things, or should Haslam, the playoff selection committee, the pollsters and Griz fans just rely on your predictions?

Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Griz were to lose to the Cats and not make the playoffs? Is that still an upward trajectory, or would you admit that was more of a slide?

How can improving from 6-5 to 7-4 be considered a "slide"?

Well, if you start from Delaney's last couple years, or from Stitt's first year, 7-4 would be a slide, or worse. If it's 7-4 this year, that would mean a Cat loss and no playoffs. You may think a win over UNC this year is something great, but I sure don't. 7-4 seasons, with Cat losses and no playoffs, are not what I think the fans expect and want. 7-4 is a huge slide from where the Griz were not too many years ago. 8-3 and playoffs is important this year.
 
If you look at some of the FCS brackets from people supposed to be in the know, Stitt could get his victory over the Cats ,and still not see Montana on the bracket.
 
garizzalies said:
PoppaBear56 said:
garizzalies said:
So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.
The worst cat teams in generations? Earl Solomonson ring a bell?
Reading comp is hard!
I didn’t use the plural form as you did. “A generation” is about 20years. I believe there was one or two worse cat teams in that approximate period, but the last two cat teams have sucked ass comparatively

Your head is hard, reading comprehension may be disicult for you. There are many cat teams in the last 20 years just as shitty as the last two.
 
garizzalies said:
PoppaBear56 said:
garizzalies said:
So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.
The worst cat teams in generations? Earl Solomonson ring a bell?
Reading comp is hard!
I didn’t use the plural form as you did. “A generation” is about 20years. I believe there was one or two worse cat teams in that approximate period, but the last two cat teams have sucked ass comparatively

Your head is hard, reading comprehension may be difficult for you. There are many cat teams in the last 20 years just as shitty as the last two.
 
garizzalies said:
AllWeatherFan said:
garizzalies said:
So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.

Do you seriously think we'll get "destroyed" by the Cats? Of course we could lose the game if we play like we did against Weber, but I think it's pretty unlikely the Cats could "destroy" anybody, much less the Griz. So as usual, things aren't quite so black and white.
No but anything is possible, especially in this game. I believe they destroyed us last year, at least physically.
You’re the one being black/white saying he’s earned it already. Assume they come flat like the first half of Dweeber and the second half of ewho, and get destroyed. You still extending?

Yeah. It's not "black and white" at all. On balance, I think a coaching change at this point could set the program back a few years, and I have confidence that Stitt & Company will continue to adjust and improve. We can agree or disagree, and I can still respect your opinion, for whatever that's worth.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
garizzalies said:
AllWeatherFan said:
garizzalies said:
So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.

Do you seriously think we'll get "destroyed" by the Cats? Of course we could lose the game if we play like we did against Weber, but I think it's pretty unlikely the Cats could "destroy" anybody, much less the Griz. So as usual, things aren't quite so black and white.
No but anything is possible, especially in this game. I believe they destroyed us last year, at least physically.
You’re the one being black/white saying he’s earned it already. Assume they come flat like the first half of Dweeber and the second half of ewho, and get destroyed. You still extending?

Yeah. It's not "black and white" at all. On balance, I think a coaching change at this point could set the program back a few years, and I have confidence that Stitt & Company will continue to adjust and improve. We can agree or disagree, and I can still respect your opinion, for whatever that's worth.
What you are actually saying is that Stitt will continue to learn and adjust according to his lessons. We know that Stitt wasn’t prepared to coach at the FCS level when Haslam hired him 3 years ago. Is he now? His team has improved, no doubt based on his learning curve. Haslam has a difficult decision: give Stitt an extension or attempt to hire a coach with more experience. He will need to consult with the new President prior to a final decision.
Finally, I think Stitt will beat the Bobcats, but if he doesn’t, all bets are off.
 
Spanky said:
What you are actually saying is that Stitt will continue to learn and adjust according to his lessons.

No, what I'm "actually saying" is what I actually said. I have no idea what "...according to his lessons" means.
 
bhumble said:
The fact that he doesn't have an extension yet tells me that it's not a done deal by a long shot.

I say extend him now, just in case he wins this weekend and demands a lot more money.

6 years minimum.

Semore too. Lifetime contract there.
 
Eriul said:
Personally I am all for extending him regardless of this weekend. 3 years if he wins this weekend and somewhat playoff success. I would give him 1-2 if he loses this week depending on how badly.

It is no secret that our team is trending in the right direction. All without our starting QB and now we're rolling with a freshman QB that was supposed to be the backup and he's looking poised to be the future and break some career records here.

I think changing coaches now would be devastating. No need for another rebuilding phase. We are finally reaping the rewards of the last one. The arrow on the Griz is very green and has no indication of slowing down unless we make drastic changes.
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MiningCityGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Personally I am all for extending him regardless of this weekend. 3 years if he wins this weekend and somewhat playoff success. I would give him 1-2 if he loses this week depending on how badly.

It is no secret that our team is trending in the right direction. All without our starting QB and now we're rolling with a freshman QB that was supposed to be the backup and he's looking poised to be the future and break some career records here.

I think changing coaches now would be devastating. No need for another rebuilding phase. We are finally reaping the rewards of the last one. The arrow on the Griz is very green and has no indication of slowing down unless we make drastic changes.
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Baloney, we will be treading water until Stitt is gone.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Kabooom said:
One trend both the Cats and Griz both seem share this year is on first and 2nd down...making decent defensive plays on their opponent maybe a tackle for loss...followed by fist pumps galore/celebration, only to get exposed for a first down on 3rd and long. (Like hitting off the tee 260 down the middle, followed by a decent approach shot to the green.....only to 3 putt...Maybe save the celebration till 4th down is achieved.

Signed: Captain Obvious

#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

I stand corrected by :pray: AZGrizFan.

The Griz are stellar being ranked 5th in Conf on 3rd downs........Unless it's 3rd and 35....
 
Kabooom said:
AZGrizFan said:
Kabooom said:
One trend both the Cats and Griz both seem share this year is on first and 2nd down...making decent defensive plays on their opponent maybe a tackle for loss...followed by fist pumps galore/celebration, only to get exposed for a first down on 3rd and long. (Like hitting off the tee 260 down the middle, followed by a decent approach shot to the green.....only to 3 putt...Maybe save the celebration till 4th down is achieved.

Signed: Captain Obvious

#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

I stand corrected by :pray: AZGrizFan.

The Griz are stellar being ranked 5th in Conf on 3rd downs........Unless it's 3rd and 35....

Kaboom ,now that's A BOOM lol
 
TCCGRIZ said:
Kabooom said:
AZGrizFan said:
Kabooom said:
One trend both the Cats and Griz both seem share this year is on first and 2nd down...making decent defensive plays on their opponent maybe a tackle for loss...followed by fist pumps galore/celebration, only to get exposed for a first down on 3rd and long. (Like hitting off the tee 260 down the middle, followed by a decent approach shot to the green.....only to 3 putt...Maybe save the celebration till 4th down is achieved.

Signed: Captain Obvious

#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

I stand corrected by :pray: AZGrizFan.

The Griz are stellar being ranked 5th in Conf on 3rd downs........Unless it's 3rd and 35....

Kaboom ,now that's A BOOM lol

For reals.

They should really break that stat down by yardage needed. If it was > 3rd & about 9, Griz were FUCKED. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
AZGrizFan said:
TCCGRIZ said:
Kabooom said:
AZGrizFan said:
#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

I stand corrected by :pray: AZGrizFan.

The Griz are stellar being ranked 5th in Conf on 3rd downs........Unless it's 3rd and 35....

Kaboom ,now that's A BOOM lol

For reals.

They should really break that stat down by yardage needed. If it was > 3rd & about 9, Griz were f***[*]. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Very True AZ
 
I know this is a fun thread for some...but Stitt is done..gone...a MOOT point..we need to go forward and talk about whats in the future for our Griz....the what and if's and should have done is over...to infinity and beyond.....HAHA!
 
Kabooom said:
AZGrizFan said:
Kabooom said:
One trend both the Cats and Griz both seem share this year is on first and 2nd down...making decent defensive plays on their opponent maybe a tackle for loss...followed by fist pumps galore/celebration, only to get exposed for a first down on 3rd and long. (Like hitting off the tee 260 down the middle, followed by a decent approach shot to the green.....only to 3 putt...Maybe save the celebration till 4th down is achieved.

Signed: Captain Obvious

#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

I stand corrected by :pray: AZGrizFan.

The Griz are stellar being ranked 5th in Conf on 3rd downs........Unless it's 3rd and 35....

Hey, to be fair I said 3rd & long hadn’t been a glaring problem....now 3rd and forfuckingever? That’s a totally different story.... :oops: :oops:
 

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