Bob Stitt has Earned a New Contract

[AZGrizFan]

That reminds me of the Player quote ~ "it's about the strength of teams the Griz almost beat."

Are you kidding? That quote is engraved on the MSU locker room wall! That's their freaking credo! They are the KING of quality losses...

 

[Spanky]

Stitt’s team has improved, but he should be expected to show improvement over 3 years. Let’s hope he beats the Bobcats and goes a couple rounds in the play offs.

 

[PlayerRep]

That reminds me of the Player quote ~ "it's about the strength of teams the Griz almost beat."

Are you kidding? That quote is engraved on the MSU locker room wall! That's their freaking credo! They are the KING of quality losses...

What do you think Strength of Schedule is, and how do you think playoff selectors and the more astute poll voters use it?

How do you think SOS is used in most of the computer rankings?

I wonder how some of you are able to tie your shoes in the morning.

 

[PlayerRep]

If the Hauck years are your bar, then Delaney is as much a failure as Stitt.

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

 

[kemajic]

So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.

The worst cat teams in generations? Earl Solomonson ring a bell?

Reading comp is hard!
I didn’t use the plural form as you did. “A generation” is about 20years. I believe there was one or two worse cat teams in that approximate period, but the last two cat teams have sucked ass comparatively

0-11 in the Big Human's first year.

 

[AZGrizFan]

That reminds me of the Player quote ~ "it's about the strength of teams the Griz almost beat."

Are you kidding? That quote is engraved on the MSU locker room wall! That's their freaking credo! They are the KING of quality losses...

What do you think Strength of Schedule is, and how do you think playoff selectors and the more astute poll voters use it?

How do you think SOS is used in most of the computer rankings?

I wonder how some of you are able to tie your shoes in the morning.

Aaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!! You ALMOST had me there, PR! "astute poll voters".....that's a good one, man! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

If the Hauck years are your bar, then Delaney is as much a failure as Stitt.

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

 

[PlayerRep]

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

So, do the Griz have to finish the season and accomplish these things, or should Haslam, the playoff selection committee, the pollsters and Griz fans just rely on your predictions?

Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Griz were to lose to the Cats and not make the playoffs? Is that still an upward trajectory, or would you admit that was more of a slide?

 

[garizzalies]

So if Stitt gets destroyed by the cats this weekend, he will have been bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation, and you guys would reward him for that? And some would even make it 3years? WTF? This place is a bipolar echo chamber.

The worst cat teams in generations? Earl Solomonson ring a bell?

Reading comp is hard!
I didn’t use the plural form as you did. “A generation” is about 20years. I believe there was one or two worse cat teams in that approximate period, but the last two cat teams have sucked ass comparatively

0-11 in the Big Human's first year.

Yep, that’s the same team I had in mind when I said there have been “one or two worse cat teams” than the current versions

 

[Ursus1]

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

He said if finish 7-4 continues.....not 9-4 continues. And he is correct, lose to cats it continued

 

[maroonandsilver]

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

So, do the Griz have to finish the season and accomplish these things, or should Haslam, the playoff selection committee, the pollsters and Griz fans just rely on your predictions?

Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Griz were to lose to the Cats and not make the playoffs? Is that still an upward trajectory, or would you admit that was more of a slide?

No.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

So, do the Griz have to finish the season and accomplish these things, or should Haslam, the playoff selection committee, the pollsters and Griz fans just rely on your predictions?

Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Griz were to lose to the Cats and not make the playoffs? Is that still an upward trajectory, or would you admit that was more of a slide?

How can improving from 6-5 to 7-4 be considered a "slide"?

 

[garizzalies]

How can being bounced from the playoffs twice in a row by the worst cat teams in a generation be considered an improvement?

 

[Kabooom]

One trend both the Cats and Griz both seem share this year is on first and 2nd down...making decent defensive plays on their opponent maybe a tackle for loss...followed by fist pumps galore/celebration, only to get exposed for a first down on 3rd and long. (Like hitting off the tee 260 down the middle, followed by a decent approach shot to the green.....only to 3 putt...Maybe save the celebration till 4th down is achieved.

Signed: Captain Obvious

#Fakenews. Bobcats are DEAD LAST (50.3%) in opponent 3rd down conversion rate, while Griz are 5th in a 13-team league. And as a bonus, Montana is 2nd in opponents 4th down conversion rate (just over 35%), while the 'scats are 9th, allowing 4th down conversions at almost 60% clip. Have they given up a few 3rd & long's? Sure...especially to EWU in the 2nd half...but it hasn't been a glaring problem.

So we can agree that it is a problem with the cats for sure .
Sure seemed to be a problem for the Griz in their losses this year, and early on. Granted, the Griz defense is much improved from the first half of the season. Kudos to the hard working kids and Staff. It's tough to see the defense make such a fine defensive play , only to give it up at what seems to be the most un-opportune time. It still is an issue they need to work on IMO. Course then again I'm still a little bit jaded...right or wrong, I still compare today's defense to what was served up during the Hauck era.

 

[MTGRZ]

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

So, do the Griz have to finish the season and accomplish these things, or should Haslam, the playoff selection committee, the pollsters and Griz fans just rely on your predictions?

Just for the sake of discussion, what if the Griz were to lose to the Cats and not make the playoffs? Is that still an upward trajectory, or would you admit that was more of a slide?

How can improving from 6-5 to 7-4 be considered a "slide"?

You have a good point. Perhaps a "slide" isn't the correct word. Instead, maybe (if the Griz are to lose to the cats and not make the playoffs) it isn't as much progress as one would like to see. Especially since we have not won against a "quality" opponent (I know, I know-NAU is a good team. And both teams were hampered by injuries/ejections so it is hard to get any feel for how good a team is from that game. I did like the fighting spirit the Griz showed, but that is a hard game to consider a true representation of either team) all year. Yes, we had a nice road win against ISU, but they do not count as a quality win.

I think the frustration some feel is more from a gestalt they get from the program. And that starts from the top. Winning and a playoff birth would cure most of that (for now) so let's wait and see before we consider this year a "slide" or not.

 

[MTGRZ]

Hell, maybe we need to schedule more quality opponents. Or, you know, beat Weber, Eastern, Southern, and Northern with some consistency!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I can't believe a thread with this title has produced this many responses on eGriz when all of Griz Nation wants the Griz to win, and a Griz win means Stitt gets an extension. So weird.

 

[biga75]

I can't believe a thread with this title has produced this many responses on eGriz when all of Griz Nation wants the Griz to win, and a Griz win means Stitt gets an extension. So weird.

You must be new around here

 

[signedbewildered]

One thing I have learned from reading this thread.....Saturday cannot get here soon enough.

 

[kemajic]

Nope. No failure at all. Delaney came into a tough situation, much moreso that Stitt. Delaney didn't have JJ, who was charged in early August that year and not allowed to play. Don't think any of the other qb's on the roster had any experience at all. Think that's right. With JJ, Delaney would have made the playoffs. I did a game by game analysis one time, showing the multiple other games UM would have won with JJ. Delaney made the playoffs the next 2 years and beat the Cats, finishing the season ranked no. 12 the last year, and no. 8 the prior year. Wish the Griz had beaten Coastal, but Coastal was a very good team and played their best game of the season (according to my team doctor buddy who came to the game). I'm fine with the Delaney years.

Dropped from #8 to #12 the following year. See, the slide had already begun.

Yup, and look where the Griz slid to in the last 2 years. Hopefully, a win over the Cats, playoff selection, and some advancement in the playoffs. But, if not, the slide will have continued.

Not really. 6-5 last year. Worst case this year is 7-4. Much more likely 8-3, followed by a home win in the playoffs, then a loss to NDSU at their dome, ending the season at 9-4 and on a highly UPWARD trajectory. The slide most definitely will NOT have continued.

"Much more likely"? Just about everyone that knows the game, including the betting lines, has this as a tossup. It would be good to understand your confidence a little better to understand whether it has any basis other than your rose colored glasses.