Bengal visitor said:UMGriz75 said:Should have read: "Big Sky Staff Congratulate Selves on Lack of Fans."
"We are finally achieving our goals within the Big Sky conference. If we can think of other ideas to reduce audiences at BSC tournaments, we are looking for them."
The decision to go to a neutral site wasn't the Big Sky staff's -- it was the Big Sky coaches, ADs and presidents.
PlayerRep said:EverettGriz said:PlayerRep said:EverettGriz said:We all understand why they've gone to a neutral site (although no one is buying the recruiting advantage argument; if you're getting a kid excited about playing in a tournament as a 3-24 team, you're recruiting the wrong player).
That doesn't excuse the poor choice of location. It doesn't excuse rewarding the 14th place team with a day off before they play a high seed. It doesn't excuse the obviously terrible job of marketing this thing to locals (who admittedly don't give two shits about the BSC). It doesn't excuse 97 foul calls in the semis, making those games virtually unwatchable. Any casual fan without a rooting interest certainly ain't coming back after that debacle. It doesn't excuse the failure of the league to get someone --anyone -- to televise the thing, or at least the semis.
Look, I agree the Tourny appeared to be smoothly run. Kudos to the conference for doing what they were paid to do. The fact that they're being praised for it, however, just goes to show how incredibly low the bar is set in this confence.
And finally, BG, yes, fans should go. But this league can't get 800 people to drive 7 miles across town to watch their home team play a game. Do you really expect those fans are going to reNO to do so??
The recruiting thing was actually an important reason for the coaches. If another conference takes away a kid because, among other reasons, the size of the conference tourney, then the Big Sky team has lost a recruit they (and other schools) wanted. Everett, it never ceases to amaze me how little your know about sports. That's fine, but don't act like you do when you don't. I'm told that you don't have an athletic bone in your body.
Las Vegas was the preferred location, but there was no room at the inn there. Maybe Reno isn't a great location, but it has some positives.
I agree on the 97 fouls, but I hope you don't think the location and format of the tournament led to 97 foul calls.
Again, if that truly was a recruiting concern, then my point is made: this is the shittiest conference in the history of the world. If that's the kind of player teams in this league are recruiting, we're destined for a perpetual continuation of having 11 teams with sub-300 RPIs. Do you really think Montana or Weber has ever lost a kid because we didn't have 27 teams in our tournament? If the other teams want to recruit with those teams, here's a suggestion: GET BETTER, SCHEDULE BETTER, DRAW BETTER.
I know infinitely more about sports than you've forgotten. Which, based on your advanced age, I suspect is a rather voluminous amount. As for my athleticism or lack there of, good GOD you're a freaky dude if you're asking others about that. (Oh, and for what it's worth freaky boy, I'm currently ranked at the national level in a sport. How about you?).
There's plenty of room in vegas. What there wasn't in vegas was any interest in hosting the bsc tournament. You can see why.
No ,the 97 fouls were due to shitty bsc officials.
I haven't asked anyone about you, but some people have said some things about you. One senior administrator type said you were a fairly nice guy, drank the UM cool aid, didn't appear to have and athletic bone in your body, and said some things that made me think you were somewhat of a lightweight. Okay, what sport are you nationally ranked in?
EverettGriz said:PlayerRep said:EverettGriz said:PlayerRep said:The recruiting thing was actually an important reason for the coaches. If another conference takes away a kid because, among other reasons, the size of the conference tourney, then the Big Sky team has lost a recruit they (and other schools) wanted. Everett, it never ceases to amaze me how little your know about sports. That's fine, but don't act like you do when you don't. I'm told that you don't have an athletic bone in your body.
Las Vegas was the preferred location, but there was no room at the inn there. Maybe Reno isn't a great location, but it has some positives.
I agree on the 97 fouls, but I hope you don't think the location and format of the tournament led to 97 foul calls.
Again, if that truly was a recruiting concern, then my point is made: this is the shittiest conference in the history of the world. If that's the kind of player teams in this league are recruiting, we're destined for a perpetual continuation of having 11 teams with sub-300 RPIs. Do you really think Montana or Weber has ever lost a kid because we didn't have 27 teams in our tournament? If the other teams want to recruit with those teams, here's a suggestion: GET BETTER, SCHEDULE BETTER, DRAW BETTER.
I know infinitely more about sports than you've forgotten. Which, based on your advanced age, I suspect is a rather voluminous amount. As for my athleticism or lack there of, good GOD you're a freaky dude if you're asking others about that. (Oh, and for what it's worth freaky boy, I'm currently ranked at the national level in a sport. How about you?).
There's plenty of room in vegas. What there wasn't in vegas was any interest in hosting the bsc tournament. You can see why.
No ,the 97 fouls were due to shitty bsc officials.
I haven't asked anyone about you, but some people have said some things about you. One senior administrator type said you were a fairly nice guy, drank the UM cool aid, didn't appear to have and athletic bone in your body, and said some things that made me think you were somewhat of a lightweight. Okay, what sport are you nationally ranked in?
Right! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: "One senior administrator". Just happened to be talking about me to you.
God, you are a freaky, freaky man. At least TRY to be believable. Then perhaps at least the newbies to the board may have an ounce of respect for you, at least for a very short while.
I'm nationally ranked in tennis. How 'bout you? Any national rankings you'd like to claim?
And UM did NOT vote to move the tournament to a neutral site.
Hammer said:Bengal visitor said:UMGriz75 said:Should have read: "Big Sky Staff Congratulate Selves on Lack of Fans."
"We are finally achieving our goals within the Big Sky conference. If we can think of other ideas to reduce audiences at BSC tournaments, we are looking for them."
The decision to go to a neutral site wasn't the Big Sky staff's -- it was the Big Sky coaches, ADs and presidents.
Please don't include UM in that statement because that is far from the case.
grizindabox said:Mavman said:I realize that many people are not happy with the location and idea of a neutral court for the tournament.
I would however strongly encourage all of you to try and attend next year if you can swing it. The quality of play and the competitive games made it all worth it.
they would rather sit home and bitch about it....
grizzlyjournal said:Several years ago I went to the Cougar Invitational in Spokane when the Griz were invited (2006 I think) and loved every minute. Great venue, well run. Based upon that experience, I believe Spokane would be a great host city.
EverettGriz said:PR, I wouldn't send you a bag of my excrement. And I frankly don't care whether you believe me or not.
In either event, you're either lying, or the person had no freaking idea who I was. And btw, it hasn't escaped me that you've said repeatedly we haven't met and you don't know who I am, but yet somehow you were able to tell this nebulous "senior administration official", who no doubt spends a GREAT deal of time on eGriz, :roll: who EverettGriz is.
You should probably think through things a little better before your post your bullshit.
PlayerRep said:I have never said I don't know your name. I just haven't met you, to my knowledge. If you think I don't know who you are, do you mind if I post your name and say what your alumni position was? Okay to link to link your LinkedIn? Maybe you are the one who should link before you post.
Well, that's a thought.UNDfan said:The AD's and Presidents went to Reno for their own schmoozing, and they wouldn't dream of schmoozing their alumni in Missoula.
UNDfan said:It's amazing that the collective brain trust here can't figure out why the Big Sky likes Reno. Weber St and egriz are out voted by the 10 other teams: that's why. But more than that, each school wants to schmooze their high donors, and those donors don't want to bother with Missoula or Ogden or even Billings. They will show for Reno or Vegas or maybe even Denver, but not popunk towns. The AD's and Presidents went to Reno for their own schmoozing, and they wouldn't dream of schmoozing their alumni in Missoula. The parties are already being planned for next year in Reno. Vegas opens up a new venue next year, as the PAC12 moves to the 18.5k seat T-Mobile Arena from the 12k MGM Grand Garden. The Sky will move to Vegas in 2018, as Vegas offers world class schmoozing opportunities.
It's puzzling. The people organizing the project do their own self-assessment. Reporters don't think to ask anybody else. Hmmmm. Brings up a point, that Sports Reporters are not typical journalists. A sports reporter does not survive unless he is basically the public relations arm for the local team. It was one of the reasons the Missoulian could not let the sports staff cover the JJ proceedings (never mind the whoop do of obeying one rule of avoiding biased journalism while abandoning another role of favoriting overt social justice bias).Paytonlives said:I guess my thought is "What do you think they are going to say?"
putter said:UNDfan said:It's amazing that the collective brain trust here can't figure out why the Big Sky likes Reno. Weber St and egriz are out voted by the 10 other teams: that's why. But more than that, each school wants to schmooze their high donors, and those donors don't want to bother with Missoula or Ogden or even Billings. They will show for Reno or Vegas or maybe even Denver, but not popunk towns. The AD's and Presidents went to Reno for their own schmoozing, and they wouldn't dream of schmoozing their alumni in Missoula. The parties are already being planned for next year in Reno. Vegas opens up a new venue next year, as the PAC12 moves to the 18.5k seat T-Mobile Arena from the 12k MGM Grand Garden. The Sky will move to Vegas in 2018, as Vegas offers world class schmoozing opportunities.
Actually, the rest of the conference was growing tired of having to go to Missoula or Ogden EVERY YEAR..... :lol:
PlayerRep said:EverettGriz said:PR, I wouldn't send you a bag of my excrement. And I frankly don't care whether you believe me or not.
In either event, you're either lying, or the person had no freaking idea who I was. And btw, it hasn't escaped me that you've said repeatedly we haven't met and you don't know who I am, but yet somehow you were able to tell this nebulous "senior administration official", who no doubt spends a GREAT deal of time on eGriz, :roll: who EverettGriz is.
You should probably think through things a little better before your post your bullshit.
So much for your supposed "national ranking". Everything I posted was 100% correct. No BS about it. I have never said I don't know your name. I just haven't met you, to my knowledge. If you think I don't know who you are, do you mind if I post your name and say what your alumni position was? Okay to link to link your LinkedIn? Maybe you are the one who should link before you post.