Beau Donaldson will plead guilty

[Baller1]

So this thread has degenerated from an ex UM Football player pleading guilty to rape, to said player "doing my girlfriend or something"???
classy....

 

[grizfromhel]

I would be very surprised if Beau D. serves "hard" prison time, and that is the calculated risk that he and his attorney are taking. True enough that Shaun Donovan announces that the county attorney's office will seek a sentence with prison time, but for a first offense, if the defendant "owns up" and is properly and believably contrite, not many judges are going to send him off to Deer Lodge.

Not really surprised with this outcome. His attorney is well known (and well connected) to seek out and make the best deal he can. My guess is that MD hasn't done a true jury trial in years.

I see the possibility of an outcome very similar to this in the JJ case. Not a plea to rape but to a lesser included offense and take your chances with the judge on sentencing. In a "normal" rape case where the prosecution is presented with the difficulties this case has, that would definitely be the outcome. Problem is that the county attorney does not have his normal degree of discretion with the feds breathing down his neck. Maybe that will change when Eric Holder starts job hunting after November 6th. Then Pat Williams won't have anybody in the Justice Department to return his phone calls.

 

[Baller1]

Give me a break, I am not "bragging" about this at all. I just feel like some where defending an admitted rapists, which I take some exception to.
I will re-state that this is a tragedy, especially for the victim and her family. As well as the Donaldsons and the burden Beau has placed on them. I just refuse to feel bad for an admitted rapist or anyone who chooses to defend their actions.

when you get right to talking about people eating crow, that sounds like bragging to me. If a rapist can admit he did it, why can't you?

How many times do I need to explain this? Some were defending Donaldson with no real knowledge of what actually happened. He has admitted guilt via recorded phone call, and is now going to plead guilty in court. Those who have blindly defended the guy are now "eating crow". Its a fucking Idiom.....not a way for me to brag or feel good about somebody going to prison you ass. Get over yourself.

 

[George Ferguson]

I have no dog in this fight, simply because Beau Donaldson is NOT and will NEVER be a Griz football player again. But those of you trying to argue with Growler's logic are wasting your time. This is the guy who just called Nate Harris a thug for getting suspended for tweeting and once posted HE KNEW a Griz recruit had a criminal record, only to be proven wrong by the dude's father or uncle (can't remember which one anymore). He's also posted that he knows of 30 african-american Griz football players who have been arrested and charged with a criminal offense in Missoula County since BH took over the program and arrested for MORE SEVERE (HIS WORDS) crimes than DUI or MIP's. It's a race issue with Growler plain and simple. No need to argue anymore.

 

[msuhunter]

I defended him because I know a friend of his, who is good friends with both he and the girl. Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty. Some of you are so naive to how the legal process works. It is all a calculated gamble, where the defense attorney weighs the risks, consequences, and benefits of going to trial, or pleading guilty for a reduced sentence.

Those of you who are slamming the posters who defended him, are just as culpable of hanging him out to dry simply because of this strategic guilty plea.

So admitting guilt via recorded phone call, and now pleading guilty means he is actually innocent? I must be incredibly naive to not understand your "logic". :roll:

What, did Beau do your girlfriend or something? You seem more than ready for him to do serious time. Don't spew unless you walk in his shoes first.

Maybe he wants to see him "do serious time" because he $#@$%^$ RAPED someone! :shock: :roll:

 

[msuhunter]

His attorney is a very good one and will do everything in his power to help his client. Beau will get off with a much lighter sentence than he deserves (IMO) but this does not change the fact that he has admitted on two occasions now that he raped that girl. Once via a recorded phone call, and now soon to admit it in court. The way some have defended Donaldson before the facts all came out is sickening. Message boards are not places to speak for, or dare I say represent players.

I defended him because I know a friend of his, who is good friends with both he and the girl. Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty. Some of you are so naive to how the legal process works. It is all a calculated gamble, where the defense attorney weighs the risks, consequences, and benefits of going to trail, or pleading guilty for a reduced sentence.

Those of you who are slamming the posters who defended him, are just as culpable of hanging him out to dry simply because of this strategic guilty plea.

Pleading guilty to a rape charge is not "a calculated gamble." You have to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life. You really think someone who is innocent would voluntarily plead to this?? Maybe in case invovling voter fraud or forgery, some defendants may take a "calculated gamble" on a plea to get a lighter sentence or additional charges dropped. Not so in a rape case.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty.

It literally means he is guilty. No gray area there. A guilty plea is an admission of guilt. If he didn't do it, yet is pleading guilty, then he was the worst legal counsel in Montana, because he is now a sex offender for life, and will have to notify his neighbors where ever he lives after he gets out of prison.

What the hell are you babbling about now? :shock:

 

[NorthwestFresh]

I feel sorry both both families in this case, no winner here at all.

I feel bad for the young woman he raped.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Don't spew unless you walk in his shoes first.

Wasn't that Beau's problem? That he spewed while walking in his own shoes?

 

[EastCoastGriz]

His attorney is a very good one and will do everything in his power to help his client. Beau will get off with a much lighter sentence than he deserves (IMO) but this does not change the fact that he has admitted on two occasions now that he raped that girl. Once via a recorded phone call, and now soon to admit it in court. The way some have defended Donaldson before the facts all came out is sickening. Message boards are not places to speak for, or dare I say represent players.

I defended him because I know a friend of his, who is good friends with both he and the girl. Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty. Some of you are so naive to how the legal process works. It is all a calculated gamble, where the defense attorney weighs the risks, consequences, and benefits of going to trail, or pleading guilty for a reduced sentence.

Those of you who are slamming the posters who defended him, are just as culpable of hanging him out to dry simply because of this strategic guilty plea.

Pleading guilty to a rape charge is not "a calculated gamble." You have to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life. You really think someone who is innocent would voluntarily plead to this?? Maybe in case invovling voter fraud or forgery, some defendants may take a "calculated gamble" on a plea to get a lighter sentence or additional charges dropped. Not so in a rape case.

Dont know what is going on here but lots of people plead guilty when they are in fact not guilty.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

So this thread has degenerated from an ex UM Football player pleading guilty to rape, to said player "doing my girlfriend or something"???
classy....

Well, there was at least a classic Growler gaffe when he mentioned spewing in a thread where he is defending a rapist.

So, that was nice.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Dont know what is going on here but lots of people plead guilty when they are in fact not guilty.

Really? Lots of people plead guilty to felony sexual assault, meaning they can never vote again and have to register as a sex offender for life, even if they didn't do it?

I learn new stuff here every time I visit.

 

[tampa_griz]

Don't know what is going on here but lots of people plead guilty when they are in fact not guilty.

Maybe to other charges. But pleading guilty to sexual assault has some very serious and life-long consequences.

 

[tnt]

Don't know what is going on here but lots of people plead guilty when they are in fact not guilty.

Maybe to other charges. But pleading guilty to sexual assault has some very serious and life-long consequences.

Apparently no one told Brian Banks. Lest anyone forget he plead guilty and unlike Beau, he didn't apologize to his victim afterwards.

 

[grizfromhel]

In terms of a plea, it is common to use a so-called "Alford" plea by which the defendant maintains his innocence but acknowledges there is a sufficient amount of evidence that could lead to a conviction; and therefore chooses to plead guilty. He gets to have it both ways that way. Go figure.

Also in Montana as, I believe, in most states, the conviction or plea to a felony does not vitiate voting privileges. It only disables during the term of the sentence.

 

[tnt]

In terms of a plea, it is common to use a so-called "Alford" plea by which the defendant maintains his innocence but acknowledges there is a sufficient amount of evidence that could lead to a conviction; and therefore chooses to plead guilty. He gets to have it both ways that way. Go figure.

Also in Montana as, I believe, in most states, the conviction or plea to a felony does not vitiate voting privileges. It only disables during the term of the sentence.

Pretty common in the case of rapists and pervs. They can cut a pretty good deal. There is a guy running around town who was school administrator (private). Entered an Alford" plea on a reduced charge of molesting his adopted son (a kid we had in foster care before the state placed him with this guy) no time had go to counseling only had to register as a sex offender during his probation (3 years)
Turns out the guy was involved in "activity" at a boarding school out of state who couldn't say anything because of employment laws and the legal action was dropped because the kids wouldn't testify. Anyway he has his teaching credentials back and is a youth group leader at a church here in town....

 

[Growler1]

His attorney is a very good one and will do everything in his power to help his client. Beau will get off with a much lighter sentence than he deserves (IMO) but this does not change the fact that he has admitted on two occasions now that he raped that girl. Once via a recorded phone call, and now soon to admit it in court. The way some have defended Donaldson before the facts all came out is sickening. Message boards are not places to speak for, or dare I say represent players.

I defended him because I know a friend of his, who is good friends with both he and the girl. Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty. Some of you are so naive to how the legal process works. It is all a calculated gamble, where the defense attorney weighs the risks, consequences, and benefits of going to trail, or pleading guilty for a reduced sentence.

Those of you who are slamming the posters who defended him, are just as culpable of hanging him out to dry simply because of this strategic guilty plea.

Pleading guilty to a rape charge is not "a calculated gamble." You have to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life. You really think someone who is innocent would voluntarily plead to this?? Maybe in case invovling voter fraud or forgery, some defendants may take a "calculated gamble" on a plea to get a lighter sentence or additional charges dropped. Not so in a rape case.

Spoken like a true knucklehead from Bozo-land. So, dude, you would rather do 20 than register as a sex offender? You don't know what f_ck you are talking about.

 

[Growler1]

So this thread has degenerated from an ex UM Football player pleading guilty to rape, to said player "doing my girlfriend or something"???
classy....

Well, there was at least a classic Growler gaffe when he mentioned spewing in a thread where he is defending a rapist.

So, that was nice.

GFY. You never get it right, no matter what the topic. So why expect miracles in this one.

 

[msuhunter]

His attorney is a very good one and will do everything in his power to help his client. Beau will get off with a much lighter sentence than he deserves (IMO) but this does not change the fact that he has admitted on two occasions now that he raped that girl. Once via a recorded phone call, and now soon to admit it in court. The way some have defended Donaldson before the facts all came out is sickening. Message boards are not places to speak for, or dare I say represent players.

I defended him because I know a friend of his, who is good friends with both he and the girl. Just because he will plead guilty, does not mean he is guilty. Some of you are so naive to how the legal process works. It is all a calculated gamble, where the defense attorney weighs the risks, consequences, and benefits of going to trail, or pleading guilty for a reduced sentence.

Those of you who are slamming the posters who defended him, are just as culpable of hanging him out to dry simply because of this strategic guilty plea.

Pleading guilty to a rape charge is not "a calculated gamble." You have to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life. You really think someone who is innocent would voluntarily plead to this?? Maybe in case invovling voter fraud or forgery, some defendants may take a "calculated gamble" on a plea to get a lighter sentence or additional charges dropped. Not so in a rape case.

Spoken like a true knucklehead from Bozo-land. So, dude, you would rather do 20 than register as a sex offender? You don't know what f_ck you are talking about.

Haha, pot meet kettle :lol:

 

[TheBud]

The way some have defended Donaldson before the facts all came out is sickening. Message boards are not places to speak for, or dare I say represent players.

Apparently, I missed the way of which you refer. I thought that the accused are innocent until proven guilty or admit guilt - in this country. Defending somebody that had not yet been proven guilty or admitted guilt is also allowed and encouraged. Up to that point, guilt is speculative. That is why we have a justice system.

What Donaldson is about to admit guilt to will officially make him a POS in my book. It would be sickening for anybody to defend him and his actions during the crime AFTER he has been proven guilty or admits guilt. It is also sickening when people in this country cannot get a fair trial - and get convicted by Internet chat.

Let's not forget the victim here. My thoughts and prayers to her, her family, and his family for what they have gone through, but especially for the victim. If it was my daughter, I would want to kill him.