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Baldwin to OSU???

If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.
 
TxGriz said:
If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.


Making the semifinals four times in the last five years is still a powerhouse accomplishment, even if you're stupid enough to try and cross out the national championship :roll:

Do I have to remind you that making the semifinals means you are better than at least 97% of the teams in the FCS? And don't forget to include knocking off a top 25 FBS team.
 
Rjones61 said:
TxGriz said:
If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.


Making the semifinals four times in the last five years is still a powerhouse accomplishment, even if you're stupid enough to try and cross out the national championship :roll:

Do I have to remind you that making the semifinals means you are better than at least 97% of the teams in the FCS? And don't forget to include knocking off a top 25 FBS team.

Tough argument when 50% of our own fanbase believe our last 3 NC appearances were an underachievement.
 
Rjones61 said:
TxGriz said:
If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.


Making the semifinals four times in the last five years is still a powerhouse accomplishment, even if you're stupid enough to try and cross out the national championship :roll:

Do I have to remind you that making the semifinals means you are better than at least 97% of the teams in the FCS? And don't forget to include knocking off a top 25 FBS team.

Already rationalizing the also rans. Well you won't have to wait that long to be disappointed this year.
 
KingsValleyGriz said:
I think OSU goes for a bigger splash than Baldwin. I think more Justin Wilcox D coordinator at USC. Wilcox was in running for the UDub job but was not selected. He then went to SC with Sark. Wilcox is from Jumction City, but a Duck.

OSU might even look to Johnathan Smith!!

Baldwin might show interest but I doubt he is what OSU wants.

I could be wrong, but doubt it.

I just wonder why Nebraska wants a 61 year old Riley?

Riley to Nebraska struck me as a very strange move as well. Kind of an "Odd Couple" type of decision.
 
Sims or do we still have anything left to offer him?

Advice for Oregon State Beavers commits: Take a look at other options

By Andrew Nemec | [email protected]
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on December 04, 2014 at 5:44 PM, updated December 04, 2014 at 6:12 PM

Oregon State three-star tight end commit Matt Snyder said that he and his family hosted Mike Riley in their home Wednesday for a visit.

Snyder said he sold them Oregon State – the program, the family atmosphere, the future.

Turns out, it was a future of which he wasn't a part.

Recruiting is a business. It's about wins, money and job security for the school and coaches.

It was for Mike Riley on Wednesday, it will be for the next coach that comes to Corvallis and it needs to be for the recruits.

On Thursday, as news broke that Riley had left for Nebraska, committed high school seniors began scrambling to find out about their futures. Quarterback James Pensyl, linebacker Tyrin Ferguson, offensive lineman Beau Hott and others said they learned of Riley's departure like many of the Oregon State faithful – through Twitter.

Finally able to get ahold of assistant coaches each recruit was reassured that their scholarship was still very much on the table. That is, after the assistant coaches figured out what was going on, according to several Beavers pledges.

The only problem is that those scholarships are no longer the assistant coaches' to give.

In many cases assistants follow a head man out the door – be it by firing or a move to the coach's new school. Rarely do assistants remain in place while the man in charge travels elsewhere.

Oregon State's class is largely built on players that fit Riley's system – a system that is no longer in place in Corvallis.

One of the first tasks a new coach must complete is going over the current crop of commits and deciding who to remain loyal to and who to cut. Given that the class currently has just one four-star pledge, few prospects are safe.

If Oregon State University was as blindsided as the assistant coaches, a new hire and an evaluation of the current class will take time – time these 18-year-old kids don't have.

National Signing Day is exactly two months away (February 4), and many recruits have spent months shutting the door on other schools while remaining true to Oregon State.

Just in case the new coach has other plans, just in case a recruit doesn't fit his system, just in case he goes in a different direction, Oregon State commits need to at least look at other options.

If not, they may again find themselves scrambling. This time on signing day.
 
ordigger said:
Rjones61 said:
TxGriz said:
If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.


Making the semifinals four times in the last five years is still a powerhouse accomplishment, even if you're stupid enough to try and cross out the national championship :roll:

Do I have to remind you that making the semifinals means you are better than at least 97% of the teams in the FCS? And don't forget to include knocking off a top 25 FBS team.

Tough argument when 50% of our own fanbase believe our last 3 NC appearances were an underachievement.

That only serves to put on display the idiocracy inherent in Griz fans. 2-5 in the NC would suggest that in the two years the Griz won it, they were overachieving.
 
Screamin_Eagle174 said:
ordigger said:
Rjones61 said:
TxGriz said:
If EWU's reputation as a powerhouse rests on its one and only national championship, then it is a very inflated reputation. That game was won on a gift spot by the officials that kept the last scoring drive going when it looked like the ball carrier started going down about 2 yards short.

A more representative incident occurred in the semi finals last year (whenever that was I'm not exactly sure, but they were eliminated) where they turned the ball over on downs when Adams overthrew an 8 yard lob to a wide open receiver.


Making the semifinals four times in the last five years is still a powerhouse accomplishment, even if you're stupid enough to try and cross out the national championship :roll:

Do I have to remind you that making the semifinals means you are better than at least 97% of the teams in the FCS? And don't forget to include knocking off a top 25 FBS team.

Tough argument when 50% of our own fanbase believe our last 3 NC appearances were an underachievement.

That only serves to put on display the idiocracy inherent in Griz fans. 2-5 in the NC would suggest that in the two years the Griz won it, they were overachieving.
Probably true in '95; underdog against Marshall at their house; overachieving defensive effort. Not so in '01; dominating #1 all year.

We'll accept an "overachieving" tag if we win at Cheney.
 
grizfnz said:
griz4life1 said:
So Baldwin is making $200,000 at EW? That's more than we pay! We never had a chance at him, did we...
Embellished salary number, 152k total 2014 compensation per WA OFM.

Saw this in the Spokesman today:

while Baldwin had a base salary $166,420, according to records obtained this week from EWU Human Resource Services.

The $200,000 is probably not that much of an embelishment, and certainly seems on par with the figures that have been cited on here IRT what Delaney makes at UM.

http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/04/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-strong-candidate-/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
EWURanger29 said:
grizfnz said:
griz4life1 said:
So Baldwin is making $200,000 at EW? That's more than we pay! We never had a chance at him, did we...
Embellished salary number, 152k total 2014 compensation per WA OFM.

Saw this in the Spokesman today:



The $200,000 is probably not that much of an embelishment, and certainly seems on par with what Delaney's making at UM.

http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/04/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-strong-candidate-/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're they talking base pay because I believe that's around 170k but with incentives it's a bit more
 
TxGriz said:
PAC-12 has a $20MM contract in hand from Fox Sports. I would be surprised to see them offer an FCS coach. I think they are all shopping in the $2 million ballpark. Just my uninformed opinion.
They took Tinkle, and his tournament teams left a lot to be desired....he will be ok there...
 
GrizLA said:
TxGriz said:
PAC-12 has a $20MM contract in hand from Fox Sports. I would be surprised to see them offer an FCS coach. I think they are all shopping in the $2 million ballpark. Just my uninformed opinion.
They took Tinkle, and his tournament teams left a lot to be desired....he will be ok there...

you are comparing apples and oranges...
 
grizindabox said:
G&B said:
He is not good enough. His Defence is down wright horrible. It's kind of a joke if you think about it. Denver had a great offense and a great quarterback look where got them. A good couch should be able to fix it???

So many stupid posts about Baldwin being a bad coach because of his defense...
Did pretty good today.
 
grizindabox said:
GrizLA said:
TxGriz said:
PAC-12 has a $20MM contract in hand from Fox Sports. I would be surprised to see them offer an FCS coach. I think they are all shopping in the $2 million ballpark. Just my uninformed opinion.
They took Tinkle, and his tournament teams left a lot to be desired....he will be ok there...

you are comparing apples and oranges...
not much difference between FCS football and mid major bball...
 
GrizLA said:
grizindabox said:
GrizLA said:
TxGriz said:
PAC-12 has a $20MM contract in hand from Fox Sports. I would be surprised to see them offer an FCS coach. I think they are all shopping in the $2 million ballpark. Just my uninformed opinion.
They took Tinkle, and his tournament teams left a lot to be desired....he will be ok there...

you are comparing apples and oranges...
not much difference between FCS football and mid major bball...

but comparing a move from a mid major to a Pac12 school to a move from a FCS to a FBS is like comparing apples to oranges
 
grizindabox said:
GrizLA said:
grizindabox said:
GrizLA said:
They took Tinkle, and his tournament teams left a lot to be desired....he will be ok there...

you are comparing apples and oranges...
not much difference between FCS football and mid major bball...

but comparing a move from a mid major to a Pac12 school to a move from a FCS to a FBS is like comparing apples to oranges
It has happened quite often...
 
GrizLA said:
grizindabox said:
GrizLA said:
grizindabox said:
you are comparing apples and oranges...
not much difference between FCS football and mid major bball...

but comparing a move from a mid major to a Pac12 school to a move from a FCS to a FBS is like comparing apples to oranges
It has happened quite often...

you mean like Bobby Hauck, Joe Glenn, Mick Dennehy, and Paul Wulff
 
RobGriz said:
EWURanger29 said:
grizfnz said:
griz4life1 said:
So Baldwin is making $200,000 at EW? That's more than we pay! We never had a chance at him, did we...
Embellished salary number, 152k total 2014 compensation per WA OFM.

Saw this in the Spokesman today:



The $200,000 is probably not that much of an embelishment, and certainly seems on par with what Delaney's making at UM.

http://m.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/04/ewu-coach-beau-baldwin-mentioned-strong-candidate-/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're they talking base pay because I believe that's around 170k but with incentives it's a bit more

The $166,420 referenced in the article is Baldwin's base pay. There's obviously incentive pays and money from camps, etc. that would drive that number up closer to the $200,000.

Point is, the pay at both jobs seems very comparable (Delaney at $164,557 base pay), and the people on here saying Baldwin could "double" his salary at UM were being disingenuous at best. Money was never a legitimate reason for why Baldwin would even consider going to Montana. The whole thing was a ruse in the first place - an intentional "leak" to the media to serve as a distraction leading up to the game.

Delaney’s annual base salary will reportedly stay at $164,557, including incentives and the usual percentage increases for all university system employees.

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/football/delaney-gets-one-year-extension-as-um-football-coach/article_c2cd5df6-579d-11e3-9172-001a4bcf887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
EWURanger29 said:
Delaney’s annual base salary will reportedly stay at $164,557, including incentives and the usual percentage increases for all university system employees.

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/football/delaney-gets-one-year-extension-as-um-football-coach/article_c2cd5df6-579d-11e3-9172-001a4bcf887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I believe it has to be in line with Ash's salary at MSU. Our BOR is in the dark ages.
 
kemajic said:
EWURanger29 said:
Delaney’s annual base salary will reportedly stay at $164,557, including incentives and the usual percentage increases for all university system employees.

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/football/delaney-gets-one-year-extension-as-um-football-coach/article_c2cd5df6-579d-11e3-9172-001a4bcf887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I believe it has to be in line with Ash's salary at MSU. Our BOR is in the dark ages.

Probably 2 of the few FCS programs that actually make money, they should pay the coaches accordingly.
 
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