ilovethecats
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I maintain we’ll have football and fans will be in the stands. Fans afraid to be in the stands can easily watch on tv or stream it. Win win.
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Are we prepared for no football this fall?
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1. "Dr. Anthony Fauci: Football "the perfect set up for spreading"
"When California Gov. Gavin Newsom expressed some skepticism about the return of sports as we know it, in a stadium full of fans, he asked what happened to players when one tests positive — do you shut down the entire offensive line if it's a lineman, or the entire defensive line because of their proximity?..."
"Infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told Peter King of NBC’s Football Morning in America that widespread testing of players would be the first step, and the obvious acknowledgement that any player who tests positive has to be quarantined because of how rapidly it would spread in an athletic environment.
“Sweat does not do it,” Fauci said. “This is a respiratory virus, so it’s going to be spread by shedding virus. The problem with virus shedding is that if I have it in my nasal pharynx, and it sheds and I wipe my hand against my nose—now it’s on my hand. You see, then I touch my chest or my thigh, then it’s on my chest or my thigh for at least a few hours. Sweat as such won’t transmit it. But if people are in such close contact as football players are on every single play, then that’s the perfect set up for spreading. I would think that if there is an infected football player on the field—a middle linebacker, a tackle, whoever it is it—as soon as they hit the next guy, the chances are that they will be shedding virus all over that person.
“If you really want to be in a situation where you want to be absolutely certain, you’d test all the players before the game. And you say, Those who are infected: Sorry, you’re sidelined. Those who are free: Get in there and play.”
2. "England's Premier League gets approval to resume its season in June
The Premier League will be allowed to return in empty stadiums as early as next month, the United Kingdom's government announced on Monday."
"The English Premier League could return from its coronavirus-caused shutdown as early as next month after the United Kingdom’s government said Monday that it would allow the world’s most-watched sports circuit to resume playing games in empty stadiums beginning June 1.
U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson made the announcement as part of the country’s so-called “road map” to reopening. Those guidelines permit “cultural and sporting events to take place behind closed-doors for broadcast, while avoiding the risk of large-scale social contact” from that date forward.
While several of Europe’s other top leagues, including France’s Ligue 1 and the Dutch Eredivisie, have cancelled the reminder of their 2019-20 campaigns, the Premier League has long held out hope that it would be able to complete its remaining schedule over the summer.
If it’s able to return next month, it would join Germany’s Bundesliga, which plans to restart on Saturday behind closed doors after a break of more than two months. Leagues in Spain and Italy are also hoping to complete their respective slates even as some players continue to test positive for the virus.
Liverpool was leading the Premier League by a whopping 25 points when the shutdown began in May. The UEFA Champions League holders need just six points from their nine remaining matches to win their first English title in 30 years.
The 20 clubs that make up the Prem are expected to vote next week on exactly how and when games will resume. It has not yet been determined whether teams will be able to host matches in their own stadiums as usual or if all games will played at neutral venues."
NBC Sports: https://apple.news/AX_XnzXI2S0GM1BO1nwooiA
"When California Gov. Gavin Newsom expressed some skepticism about the return of sports as we know it, in a stadium full of fans, he asked what happened to players when one tests positive — do you shut down the entire offensive line if it's a lineman, or the entire defensive line because of their proximity?..."
"Infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told Peter King of NBC’s Football Morning in America that widespread testing of players would be the first step, and the obvious acknowledgement that any player who tests positive has to be quarantined because of how rapidly it would spread in an athletic environment.
“Sweat does not do it,” Fauci said. “This is a respiratory virus, so it’s going to be spread by shedding virus. The problem with virus shedding is that if I have it in my nasal pharynx, and it sheds and I wipe my hand against my nose—now it’s on my hand. You see, then I touch my chest or my thigh, then it’s on my chest or my thigh for at least a few hours. Sweat as such won’t transmit it. But if people are in such close contact as football players are on every single play, then that’s the perfect set up for spreading. I would think that if there is an infected football player on the field—a middle linebacker, a tackle, whoever it is it—as soon as they hit the next guy, the chances are that they will be shedding virus all over that person.
“If you really want to be in a situation where you want to be absolutely certain, you’d test all the players before the game. And you say, Those who are infected: Sorry, you’re sidelined. Those who are free: Get in there and play.”
2. "England's Premier League gets approval to resume its season in June
The Premier League will be allowed to return in empty stadiums as early as next month, the United Kingdom's government announced on Monday."
"The English Premier League could return from its coronavirus-caused shutdown as early as next month after the United Kingdom’s government said Monday that it would allow the world’s most-watched sports circuit to resume playing games in empty stadiums beginning June 1.
U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson made the announcement as part of the country’s so-called “road map” to reopening. Those guidelines permit “cultural and sporting events to take place behind closed-doors for broadcast, while avoiding the risk of large-scale social contact” from that date forward.
While several of Europe’s other top leagues, including France’s Ligue 1 and the Dutch Eredivisie, have cancelled the reminder of their 2019-20 campaigns, the Premier League has long held out hope that it would be able to complete its remaining schedule over the summer.
If it’s able to return next month, it would join Germany’s Bundesliga, which plans to restart on Saturday behind closed doors after a break of more than two months. Leagues in Spain and Italy are also hoping to complete their respective slates even as some players continue to test positive for the virus.
Liverpool was leading the Premier League by a whopping 25 points when the shutdown began in May. The UEFA Champions League holders need just six points from their nine remaining matches to win their first English title in 30 years.
The 20 clubs that make up the Prem are expected to vote next week on exactly how and when games will resume. It has not yet been determined whether teams will be able to host matches in their own stadiums as usual or if all games will played at neutral venues."
NBC Sports: https://apple.news/AX_XnzXI2S0GM1BO1nwooiA
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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Well, there's also this:
https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2020/05/11/students-should-not-return-campuses-fall-regardless-financial-implications-opinion
I suppose those well-endowed endowments will be appealing to students when this ends...
https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2020/05/11/students-should-not-return-campuses-fall-regardless-financial-implications-opinion
I suppose those well-endowed endowments will be appealing to students when this ends...
BigSkyBears
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CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
99% of higher public education this country is run by the Socialist, Atheist, and Marxists. Kids aren't learning, they're becoming indoctrinated. Perhaps it needs to collapse? If you want evidence of this, listen to Jordan B. Peterson, or read a great book by an ex-Marxist named Bella Dodd in her book, School of Darkness. She led the way in indoctrination and pushing Marxism in public education for several decades.
CatGrad-UMGradStu
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BigSkyBears said:
True. The most progressive president whose administration ushered in the EPA, Title IX, OSHA, FAPE, ended the Viet Nam War-abruptly, lowered the voting age to 18, lowered the drinking age to 18, ended the draft, removed us from the Gold Standard, opened the doors to China and took Mike and Maureen out of Missoula, founded the Wilderness Act, established the BIA colleges and the Wild Rivers Act hated academia and the media...then had the integrity to step down was treated rather rudely.
I personally hope this author's first bullet point of dropping football does not come to pass. Anyway...again, from Sister Teresa...
ilovethecats said:
If we're set up to test all the players weekly, probably twice weekly, then I think we'll have football. Unless the numbers drop and stay down, and there's no fall outbreak, then i think fans will be allowed to go to the stadiums. Those are some big IFs though, so I'm not getting my hopes up.
"Bodnar was asked if there is a “hard deadline” by which the Montana University System will have to decide whether to hold football games this fall, which is a large economic driver for Missoula. The Montana University System moved to remote classes March in response to the coronavirus pandemic.
“The short answer is we do not have a drop-dead date,” he said. “In fact, we’re building some flexibility into this. It’s important to be looking at conditions in Montana and in the eight states in which we have Big Sky Conference universities that travel to each other for games. The key word here is going to have to be flexibility.”
https://missoulian.com/news/local/city-leaders-talk-future-of-griz-football-games-more/article_3dda53b7-69cc-5b78-af57-1162b7dfa9b9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
“The short answer is we do not have a drop-dead date,” he said. “In fact, we’re building some flexibility into this. It’s important to be looking at conditions in Montana and in the eight states in which we have Big Sky Conference universities that travel to each other for games. The key word here is going to have to be flexibility.”
https://missoulian.com/news/local/city-leaders-talk-future-of-griz-football-games-more/article_3dda53b7-69cc-5b78-af57-1162b7dfa9b9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
You and Trump really don’t understand what the concept of testing is all about do you? I believe the point in testing players is not about their individual health per se but rather to ensure that an outbreak on a team doesn’t cause cancelation of games and or the season if opposing teams refuse to travel to play infected teams. Jesus PR you have been posting multiple articles everyday about this pandemic, one would think that you might have inadvertently educated yourself regarding the necessity for more testing then Trump has.PlayerRep said:
fanofzoo
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Dutch Lane said:
Regarding the virus and testing do any of you know what the "Peter principle" is about ?
The "Peter Principle" is therefore expressed as: "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence."[3] This leads to Peter's Corollary: "In time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties."[4] Hull calls the study of how hierarchies work "hierarchiology."[5]
BigSkyBears said:
Good god.....
SSSSSssssloooooooooow down now - there is much more trouble emerging 
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CatGrad-UMGradStu
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Proud Griz Man said:SSSSSssssloooooooooow down now - there is much more trouble emerging
Proud Griz Man said:SSSSSssssloooooooooow down now - there is much more trouble emerging
That's just the fucking honey bees, right? Kudzu and Japanese beetles haven't hurt our agriculture crops too much...now Russian thistle, willow trees, among others are exotic plants that ought to be done away with along with the various carp, walking catfish, rainbows east of the divide and all the brown trout anyplace on this continent. Tear out all the dams on the Columbia too while you're at it. Retinone Flathead Lake to get rid of all the Lake Trout and Lake Superior Whitefish...
Damn, this country is an ecological nightmare! The easiest thing to do is bottle this thing up and send it back to China. Problem solved but then we wouldn't get to watch all those belligerent white house corespondents try to cherry pick what Trump's advisors wrote for him...
:lol:EverettGriz said:
HelenaHandBasket
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I guess we will just have to see what this means for athletics at California schools
Mikhail Zinshteyn @mzinshteyn
BREAKING: @calstate's leader Tim White says that the 23-campus system will be largely virtual in Fall 2020. Some exceptions will be made for hands-on courses, but he cites analysis of forthcoming waves of covid-19 infection that makes in-person learning too dangerous.
Mikhail Zinshteyn @mzinshteyn
BREAKING: @calstate's leader Tim White says that the 23-campus system will be largely virtual in Fall 2020. Some exceptions will be made for hands-on courses, but he cites analysis of forthcoming waves of covid-19 infection that makes in-person learning too dangerous.
indian-outlaw
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:lol: Higher education is just a bunch of liberal propaganda... We should all stop after the eighth grade to avoid being indoctrinated.EverettGriz said:
indian-outlaw said:
Sadly, it seems many involved in today's political discourse did just that.
Dutch Lane said:
The point is that there is no reason to cancel games or seasons because a player tests positive. You just don't get it, do you? Do they cancel games or season if a player gets the flu?
More testing is fine, but testing football players frequently isn't a high priority for me.
I would focus on testing people connected with nursing homes, in the clusters, etc, at plants, at airports as people arrive from out of country (this is already being done in some countries), perhaps at airports in MT (as people arrive, to allow them to avoid the 14-day self-quarantine0, etc.
