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snap said:
wbtfg said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Hammer said:
only a jackass from blowsman would claim a tie as a NC!! :lol: :loser:

Wait, I'm only a decade older than the players, so I can't remember the last time the scats went deep in the playoffs. Are you telling me that their sole "NC" was actually a tie?

No...i think the 1956 NC was a tie. MSU's 1976 and 1984 nc's were wins


The cats '56 and '76 "titles" (if they even happened) were in lower divisions. Therefore, they don't enter into the discussion at all (except to mock you guys for claiming a tie as a win). It's like if Carroll moved up to FCS tomorrow and advertised themselves as 5 time National Champs. What you did at a pseudo high school level doesn't count for shit at the level you are currently at.

Snap, the FACT is the records reflect two FCS championships and 1 NAIA championship. I know it is disappointing to you but you really need a reality check. 1976 and 1984 were FCS championship wins.
Snap you are appearing to be mentally challenged.
 
bigsky33 said:
snap said:
wbtfg said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Wait, I'm only a decade older than the players, so I can't remember the last time the scats went deep in the playoffs. Are you telling me that their sole "NC" was actually a tie?

No...i think the 1956 NC was a tie. MSU's 1976 and 1984 nc's were wins


The cats '56 and '76 "titles" (if they even happened) were in lower divisions. Therefore, they don't enter into the discussion at all (except to mock you guys for claiming a tie as a win). It's like if Carroll moved up to FCS tomorrow and advertised themselves as 5 time National Champs. What you did at a pseudo high school level doesn't count for shit at the level you are currently at.


Snap, the FACT is the records reflect two FCS championships and 1 NAIA championship. I know it is disappointing to you but you really need a reality check. 1976 and 1984 were FCS championship wins.
Snap you are appearing to be mentally challenged.

When were the two FCS championships again? This is confusing. I thought only one was at the current level . . .
 
bigsky33 said:
snap said:
wbtfg said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Wait, I'm only a decade older than the players, so I can't remember the last time the scats went deep in the playoffs. Are you telling me that their sole "NC" was actually a tie?

No...i think the 1956 NC was a tie. MSU's 1976 and 1984 nc's were wins


The cats '56 and '76 "titles" (if they even happened) were in lower divisions. Therefore, they don't enter into the discussion at all (except to mock you guys for claiming a tie as a win). It's like if Carroll moved up to FCS tomorrow and advertised themselves as 5 time National Champs. What you did at a pseudo high school level doesn't count for shit at the level you are currently at.

Snap, the FACT is the records reflect two FCS championships and 1 NAIA championship. I know it is disappointing to you but you really need a reality check. 1976 and 1984 were FCS championship wins.
Snap you are appearing to be mentally challenged.

You're fucking retarded. Go check your "record book" and get back to me. Dipshit.
 
bigsky33 said:
snap said:
wbtfg said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Wait, I'm only a decade older than the players, so I can't remember the last time the scats went deep in the playoffs. Are you telling me that their sole "NC" was actually a tie?

No...i think the 1956 NC was a tie. MSU's 1976 and 1984 nc's were wins


The cats '56 and '76 "titles" (if they even happened) were in lower divisions. Therefore, they don't enter into the discussion at all (except to mock you guys for claiming a tie as a win). It's like if Carroll moved up to FCS tomorrow and advertised themselves as 5 time National Champs. What you did at a pseudo high school level doesn't count for shit at the level you are currently at.

Snap, the FACT is the records reflect two FCS championships and 1 NAIA championship. I know it is disappointing to you but you really need a reality check. 1976 and 1984 were FCS championship wins.
Snap you are appearing to be mentally challenged.

Sure the records reflect two FCS championships. That is why this NCAA record book is entitled Div II, not Div 1AA. You clearly are a genius :shock: so I guess the facts speak for themselves :thumb:


Championship History
Year Champion Coach Score Runner-Up Site
2012 Valdosta State David Dean 35-7 Winston-Salem State Florence, Ala.
2011 Pittsburg State Tim Beck 35-21 Wayne State (Mich.) Florence, Ala.
2010 Minnesota-Duluth Bob Nielson 20-17 Delta State Florence, Ala.
2009 Northwest Missouri State Mel Tjeersdma 30-23 Grand Valley State Florence, Ala.
2008 Minnesota Duluth Bob Nielson 21-14 Northwest Missouri State Florence, Ala.
2007 Valdosta State David Dean 25-20 Northwest Missouri State Florence, Ala.
2006 Grand Valley State Chuck Martin 17-14 Northwest Missouri State Florence, Ala.
2005 Grand Valley State Chuck Martin 21-17 Northwest Missouri State Florence, Ala.
2004 Valdosta State Christ hatcher 36-31 Pittsburg State Florence, Ala.
2003 Grand Valley State Brian Kelly 10-3 North Dakota Florence, Ala.
2002 Grand Valley State Brian Kelly 31-24 Valdosta State Florence, Ala.
2001 North Dakota Dale Lennon 17-14 Grand Valley State Florence, Ala.
2000 Delta State Steve Campbell 63-34 Bloomsburg Florence, Ala.
1999 Northwest Missouri State Mel Tjeersdma 58-52 (4ot) Carson-Newman Florence, Ala.
1998 Northwest Missouri State Mel Tjeersdma 24-6 Carson-Newman Florence, Ala.
1997 Northern Colorado Joe Glenn 51-0 New Haven Florence, Ala.
1996 Northern Colorado Joe Glenn 23-14 Carson-Newman Florence, Ala.
1995 North Alabama Bobby Wallace 27-7 Pittsburg State Florence, Ala.
1994 North Alabama Bobby Wallace 16-10 Texas A&M-Kingsville Florence, Ala.
1993 North Alabama Bobby Wallace 41-34 Indiana (Pa.) Florence, Ala.
1992 Jacksonville State Bill Burgess 17-13 Pittsburg State Florence, Ala.
1991 Pittsburg State Chuck Broyles 23-6 Jacksonville State Florence, Ala.
1990 North Dakota State Rocky Hager 51-11 Indiana (Pa.) Florence, Ala.
1989 *Mississippi College John Williams 3-0 Jacksonville State Florence, Ala.
1988 North Dakota State Rocky Hager 35-21 Portland State Florence, Ala.
1987 Troy Rick Rhoades 31-17 Portland State Florence, Ala.
1986 North Dakota State Earle Solomonson 27-7 South Dakota Florence, Ala.
1985 North Dakota State Earle Solomonson 35-7 North Alabama McAllen, Texas
1984 Troy Chan Gailey 18-17 North Dakota State McAllen, Texas
1983 North Dakota State Don Morton 41-21 Central State (Ohio) McAllen, Texas
1982 Texas State Jim Wacker 34-9 UC Davis McAllen, Texas
1981 Texas State Jim Wacker 42-13 North Dakota State McAllen, Texas
1980 Cal Poly Joe Harper 21-13 Eastern Illinois Albuquerque, N.M.
1979 Delaware Tubby Raymond 38-21 Youngstown State Albuquerque, N.M.
1978 Eastern Illinois Darrell Mudra 10-9 Delaware Longview, Texas
1977 Lehigh John Whitehead 33-0 Jacksonville State Wichita Falls, Texas
1976 Montana State Sonny Holland 24-13 Akron Wichita Falls, Texas
1975 Northern Michigan Gil Krueger 16-14 Western Kentucky Sacramento, Calif.
1974 Central Michigan Roy Kramer 54-14 Delaware Sacramento, Calif.
1973 Louisiana Tech Maxie Lambright 34-0 Western Kentucky Sacramento, Calif.

*Mississippi College's participation in the 1989 Division II championship vacated by the NCAA Committee on Infractions

NCAA Div II Link http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/d2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Am I the only one who is getting the sense that if you have to explain why you have a national championship, then you don't have that national championship?
 
1Griz_Fan said:
Just wanted to congratulate Valdosta State (and bigsky33) on their 2012 FCS National Championship!!! :clap:

:lol: NDSU is gonna be pissed when they find out.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Am I the only one who is getting the sense that if you have to explain why you have a national championship, then you don't have that national championship?
:lol:
 
No explanation needed. The bottom line is the Cats have won 3 NCs and the Griz 2. Don't give me krap about the different divisions. When your in a division your playing against your peers at that level. A NC is a NC. I bet most of those teams that were Div II back then are all FCS or above now. Look at Boise State. Wasn't UM Div II at one time? Did they win a championship at that level? Just asking as I don't know. If Montana moves to the FBS are you going to discredit their NCs at the FCS level and say it doesn't account for shit? No it doesn't account for anything at the FBS level but it does against where you are now and you will always be proud of that. The same goes for Carroll. The went against the best competition at their level and won 5 NCs. That is amazing. If they ever move up they can always look at that with great pride for sure.
 
bigsky33 said:
No explanation needed. The bottom line is the Cats have won 3 NCs and the Griz 2. Don't give me krap about the different divisions. When your in a division your playing against your peers at that level. A NC is a NC. I bet most of those teams that were Div II back then are all FCS or above now. Look at Boise State. Wasn't UM Div II at one time? Did they win a championship at that level? Just asking as I don't know. If Montana moves to the FBS are you going to discredit their NCs at the FCS level and say it doesn't account for shit? No it doesn't account for anything at the FBS level but it does against where you are now and you will always be proud of that. The same goes for Carroll. The went against the best competition at their level and won 5 NCs. That is amazing. If they ever move up they can always look at that with great pride for sure.


:lol: You picked a fight and got your ass kicked (luckily for you, it was an e-fight). Go home and lick your wounds. You were wrong, we were right. Idiot.
 
bigsky33 said:
No explanation needed. The bottom line is the Cats have won 3 NCs and the Griz 2. Don't give me krap about the different divisions. When your in a division your playing against your peers at that level. A NC is a NC. I bet most of those teams that were Div II back then are all FCS or above now. Look at Boise State. Wasn't UM Div II at one time? Did they win a championship at that level? Just asking as I don't know. If Montana moves to the FBS are you going to discredit their NCs at the FCS level and say it doesn't account for shit? No it doesn't account for anything at the FBS level but it does against where you are now and you will always be proud of that. The same goes for Carroll. The went against the best competition at their level and won 5 NCs. That is amazing. If they ever move up they can always look at that with great pride for sure.

You are absolutely correct that MSU should be proud of that season. The problem is that Cat fans brag that their team has won 3 championships and UM has only won 2. But you're comparing apples to raisins. If UM moved up they would not tell Washington Husky fans that we have won 2 and they've only won 1. When you are now both in the same division, you state how many you've won in that division when comparing to other teams.

UM: 2
MSU 1
 
poorgriz said:
So another griz fan started a thread about the Bobcats. Cool.

I agree, it's pretty sad. Almost as sad as continually posting on your rival's board with crap like this.
 
poorgriz said:
So another griz fan started a thread about the Bobcats. Cool.


Hey, post that pic of DM thumb-blasting his center again. That was hilarious. :clap:
 
snap said:
bigsky33 said:
No explanation needed. The bottom line is the Cats have won 3 NCs and the Griz 2. Don't give me krap about the different divisions. When your in a division your playing against your peers at that level. A NC is a NC. I bet most of those teams that were Div II back then are all FCS or above now. Look at Boise State. Wasn't UM Div II at one time? Did they win a championship at that level? Just asking as I don't know. If Montana moves to the FBS are you going to discredit their NCs at the FCS level and say it doesn't account for shit? No it doesn't account for anything at the FBS level but it does against where you are now and you will always be proud of that. The same goes for Carroll. The went against the best competition at their level and won 5 NCs. That is amazing. If they ever move up they can always look at that with great pride for sure.


:lol: You picked a fight and got your ass kicked (luckily for you, it was an e-fight). Go home and lick your wounds. You were wrong, we were right. Idiot.

:clap: The idiot is you chump. In your logic with Carrloll is what your saying is that if and when the Griz move up to the FBS is that your NCs don't mean shit. Yes, you stepped in a big pile of bear shit. Admit it Snap, did you really attend UM? If you did you must have been one of those guys out taking a few tokes instead of going to class. You are a legend in your own mind!
 
bigsky33 said:
snap said:
bigsky33 said:
No explanation needed. The bottom line is the Cats have won 3 NCs and the Griz 2. Don't give me krap about the different divisions. When your in a division your playing against your peers at that level. A NC is a NC. I bet most of those teams that were Div II back then are all FCS or above now. Look at Boise State. Wasn't UM Div II at one time? Did they win a championship at that level? Just asking as I don't know. If Montana moves to the FBS are you going to discredit their NCs at the FCS level and say it doesn't account for shit? No it doesn't account for anything at the FBS level but it does against where you are now and you will always be proud of that. The same goes for Carroll. The went against the best competition at their level and won 5 NCs. That is amazing. If they ever move up they can always look at that with great pride for sure.


:lol: You picked a fight and got your ass kicked (luckily for you, it was an e-fight). Go home and lick your wounds. You were wrong, we were right. Idiot.

:clap: The idiot is you chump. In your logic with Carrloll is what your saying is that if and when the Griz move up to the FBS is that your NCs don't mean shit. Yes, you stepped in a big pile of bear shit. Admit it Snap, did you really attend UM? If you did you must have been one of those guys out taking a few tokes instead of going to class. You are a legend in your own mind!

Exactly like Snap said: If and when the Griz move up to the FBS, Griz fans won't be fucking stupid enough to try to explain how we have more national championships than Washington, UCLA, and Oklahoma State.

MSU has one NC that matters at this level.
 
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