All but one conference profitable after CFP playoff

[mtgrizrule]

NWF, how dead are things at bobcatnation? You are pretty busy posting here. I am not posting this to argue here, but multiple times you have insinuated GRIZ fans are claiming we could be a big boy like Alabama, etc. There is not any 1 egrizzer posting anything like that. The extent of some posts are that it would be nice to play better competition in a better conference. A few posts did reference, the possibility to compete for a national championship. That is not any egrizzers claiming the GRIZ will be a big boy and be like Alabama, etc.

I guess for the sake of appeasing you, they should have posted, every now and then the GRIZ could compete for the MWC championship, maybe go undefeated, or have a 1 loss season, then have a chance to be in a BCS playoff, after it expands it's field. That is what Boise State has done at the BCS level. The best teams in the MWC year to year, at worse have that opportunity, yet with a stacked deck against them. That is true. Yet it is also not anyone saying Boise State is on the elite level of the BCS elites. It only takes 1 season, doing your part, and earning the right to upset the elite big boys of the BCS.

Hell, every DIV 1 basketball program has that opportunity to make a name for the school and program in the NCAA tournament. Does it happen very often? Hell no, but because of the system, they do get the opportunity.

Please quit insinuating GRIZ fans on egriz are implying the GRIZ are on the level of elite BCS programs. It would take decades, many generations, and a lot more fortune for any program outside of the Power 5 conferences to honestly be able to make outlandish and ridiculous statements like that.

Yes, I am glad the GRIZ are preparing for the day, when another difficult decision will have to be made. That puts the GRIZ in better position to make the right decision, whenever that day comes. Personally, I feel the Big Sky Conference is a sinking ship. It is very possible the GRIZ and other programs will be forced to risk everything just to get off the sinking ship.

I'd be all for staying in the BSC, IF fellow conference schools and fan bases would make an effort to support their teams. That is the only way the conference will get better again. Really, outside of the state of Montana, what other programs consistently have decent fan support in both football and basketball, year in, year out?

Even the worse of schools/programs in the MWC have better support than most of the Big Sky. By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference? It starts with setting expectations for member schools a lot higher, and community/fan support committing to those schools/programs. That is the reality of why the GRIZ and other schools need to prepare for the day when a decision will be forced upon many schools.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

 

[grizindabox]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

We get it NWF, you have no interest in anyone having the opinion that UM should move to the MWC if it becomes an option.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

We get it NWF, you have no interest in anyone having the opinion that UM should move to the MWC if it becomes an option.

I have an interest in those opinions. I think they're myopic and unrealistic. The donors are already being stretched thin for the GCC, and they can't even reach that goal. Stitt has a lot of pressure on him over the next two years. I think he's in over his head, but that's just my opinion.

 

[grizindabox]

We get it NWF, you have no interest in anyone having the opinion that UM should move to the MWC if it becomes an option.

I have an interest in those opinions. I think they're myopic and unrealistic. The donors are already being stretched thin for the GCC, and they can't even reach that goal. Stitt has a lot of pressure on him over the next two years. I think he's in over his head, but that's just my opinion.

I get it now...you are butt hurt because they did not hire Hauck.

 

[mtgrizrule]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

For the record, I was referring to the fact that MWC programs actually have more fan bases that actually support their programs in their communities. Record and history wise, the GRIZ belong there more than with a bunch of programs that have very little support. The GRIZ have outgrown the Big Sky Conference. Too bad the options to get out are so limited.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

The GRIZ have outgrown the Big Sky Conference. Too bad the options to get out are so limited.

So the option is to become the MWC university with by far the smallest endowment, donor base, and FBS players residing within 500 miles of the city where the university is located? That seems like a recipe for a doormat program that may make the Weedeater Bowl every 5 years or so. Idaho has 2x the endowment of UM, and even they can't compete in FBS.

The caveat is if one of the Washington boys decide to blow $50m on upgrades, but even then, I just don't see how UM can compete every year in the WAC, let alone the MWC.

 

[EverettGriz]

The GRIZ have outgrown the Big Sky Conference. Too bad the options to get out are so limited.

So the option is to become the MWC university with by far the smallest endowment, donor base, and FBS players residing within 500 miles of the city where the university resides? That seems like a recipe for a doormat program that may make the Weedeater Bowl every 5 years or so. Idaho has 2x the endowment of UM, and even they can't compete in FBS.

The caveat is if one of the Washington boys decide to blow $50m on upgrades, but even then, I just don't see how UM can compete every year in the WAC, let alone the MWC.

What do endowments have to do with football success?? Using that measure, Harvard would be national champs (you know, the real ones, not the Pizza Pie Park kind) every year.


Oh, and regarding the Championship center, in a recent discussion I had (supported by those who heard him speak recently in Havre) with Kent he stated that funding for the center is right on schedule. Now, I have a quandary. Should I believe you, an cat troll posting anonymously on the internet, or a respected AD making a public statement? Troll, Kent? Troll, Kent?

Man, that's a tough one. But I think I'm gonna have to go with Kent on this one. Better luck next time, though.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

What do endowments have to do with football success?? Using that measure, Harvard would be national champs (you know, the real ones, not the Pizza Pie Park kind) every year.

Harvard doesn't want to be great at football, you dope.

Check out the endowment for Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Alabama, etc. etc. The Griz endowment is a kernel of corn in that pile.

Oh, and regarding the Championship center, in a recent discussion I had (supported by those who heard him speak recently in Havre) with Kent he stated that funding for the center is right on schedule. Now, I have a quandary. Should I believe you, an cat troll posting anonymously on the internet, or a respected AD making a public statement? Troll, Kent? Troll, Kent?

Did you ask him what "right on schedule" means? Did he define it?

Man, that's a tough one. But I think I'm gonna have to go with Kent on this one. Better luck next time, though.

What is the "schedule?" You didn't answer my question. You lost the bet, if you had taken it. I would think that an intellectually gifted Griz fan such as you would ask exactly how much had been pledged, and received an exact answer? No?

 

[EverettGriz]

Did you ask him what "right one schedule" means? Did he define it?

Yes. Utilities construction will begin the day after graduation. Official ground-breaking will one week after the final home game. I'd say that's pretty defined, no?

When should I expect you to begin welching on the bet?

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Yes. Utilities construction will begin the day after graduation. Official ground-breaking will one week after the final home game. I'd say that's pretty defined, no?

When should I expect you to begin welching on the bet?

Did you ask him how much money had been raised? That was my question.

 

[EverettGriz]

Yes. Utilities construction will begin the day after graduation. Official ground-breaking will one week after the final home game. I'd say that's pretty defined, no?

When should I expect you to begin welching on the bet?

Did you ask him how much money had been raised? That was my question.

Yes. But I'm not going to share that with you, or on a public board. Suffice it to say, plenty to start digging. Which as you know, doesn't happen in Montana unless you can pay the digger.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand. Aren't you still paying off an expansion from like 20 years ago?

 

[MrTitleist]

No way this hits 17 pages.

 

[Ursa Major]

True, AZ but if Montana starts going 6-6 or 5-7 how long will that attendance stay? Missoula does not support the UofM, most of it comes from outside and will those people still travel to support those teams once the novelty of the FBS wears off?

To see BSU, USU, Wyoming, CSU, UNR, UNM instead of No. Co, So Utah, N. Dak, Port. St, Sac. St? That's not even a tough question; my round trip is 650 mi. And we could and would get to more road games.

I have a serious question, this is not intended as smack, but why do some of you believe that UM couldn't compete? Let's compare my school Utah State and what they have done since being in the MWC, and UM. If USU as bad as they were a few years ago can become better and compete why couldn't UM with a much longer and more recent winning tradition, albeit at the FCS level?
What advantages does USU have over UM? I honestly can't think of many. I can think of several advantages that UM has over USU, which lead me to believe that if USU can do it UM certainly can.

You are consistently one of the best posters on eGriz; thanks for caring.

Agreed!

Blue,

 

[Bisonation]

NDSU & MONTANA need to move up to mountain west as a package. just do it already .

 

[AZGrizFan]

Yes! I DO want to bet. However, cat fans never pay off, and since I know I'm going to win, it would be fruitless.

Interesting. I find it sad that we're stuck in a conference with the likes of you and little brother team.

True or false.

You are less than 50% after 6 months of raising the additional $7m.

False.

 

[AZGrizFan]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

Oh, well that's it then. Our dream is officially dead. Nobody flys direct into Missoula.

 

[NavyBlue]

There are more direct flights into Missoula than there are to Logan, UT. Logan is pretty close to 100 miles from SLC, by the way.

 

[get'em_griz]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

Oh, well that's it then. Our dream is officially dead. Nobody flys direct into Missoula.

http://www.flymissoula.com/airline_and_flight_information/nonstop_destinations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Non-Stop Destinations
Missoula International Airport is served by four airlines that offer direct flights to twelve major U.S. markets with connecting flights to thousands of cities worldwide.

let's take this and compare it to let's say, Lincoln Nebraska, home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. How many direct flights do they get?

- Chicago, IL
- Denver, CO
- Minneapolis, MN
- Omaha, NE

 

[AZGrizFan]

By the looks of the numbers, yes, the GRIZ belong more in the MWC than the Big Sky. What will rest of the Big Sky conference do to become a better and more competitive conference?

The Griz haven't won a BSC title since 2009, yet they belong in the MWC over the Big Sky because the BSC isn't competitive enough for the Griz? :lol:

I love the delusion here. It always delivers. The Boise references are always amusing, too. You do understand the huge difference in corporate money when you compare Boise to Missoula, right? Also, you can get direct flights to Boise from many more cities than you can into MSO.

Oh, well that's it then. Our dream is officially dead. Nobody flys direct into Missoula.

http://www.flymissoula.com/airline_and_flight_information/nonstop_destinations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Non-Stop Destinations
Missoula International Airport is served by four airlines that offer direct flights to twelve major U.S. markets with connecting flights to thousands of cities worldwide.

let's take this and compare it to let's say, Lincoln Nebraska, home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. How many direct flights do they get?

- Chicago, IL
- Denver, CO
- Minneapolis, MN
- Omaha, NE

Wait. I thought Freshie only dealt in facts? How can this be?