3-3-5 Defense

[AZGrizFan]

OK, Jesse.

I’m pretty sure it’s that dill guy that you all harass, it’s not me, but I agree with his assessment. So you are ok with leaving him in on 3rd and long? Care to tell us why you think that’s a good idea.

I know you do. That’s why i called him Jesse. You both attribute Robby’s playing time to being the coach’s son. You’re about the only two on here who think that. It’s not that complicated.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Oh, so I can't go against the masses who find it "anti-Griz" to make any kind of a negative statement about Robbie? Sorry, I don't subscribe to that club. Robbie is easily the weakest member of the defensive backfield in pass coverage. If you don not agree, then tell us why.

You can say whatever you want. Free country. But attributing Robby’s playing time to “being the coach’s son” just makes you a Jesse clone.

Taking RH off the field on ANY down is among the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. These are his pre-season accolades....and he is only a RS Junior.

Preseason All-Big Sky
• Phil Steele 3rd-team Preseason All-America
• Phil Steele 1st-team Preseason All-Big Sky
• HERO Sports Preseason All-America first-team
• HERO Sports Preseason All-Big Sky first-team

Not only is he a tackling machine, but he is exceptional in the backfield...sacks and TFLs. Those matter on 3rd down...

 

[Jesse]

Oh, so I can't go against the masses who find it "anti-Griz" to make any kind of a negative statement about Robbie? Sorry, I don't subscribe to that club. Robbie is easily the weakest member of the defensive backfield in pass coverage. If you don not agree, then tell us why.

You can say whatever you want. Free country. But attributing Robby’s playing time to “being the coach’s son” just makes you a Jesse clone.

Should he sub out on 3rd and long or not, and why?

 

[AZGrizFan]

You can say whatever you want. Free country. But attributing Robby’s playing time to “being the coach’s son” just makes you a Jesse clone.

Should he sub out on 3rd and long or not, and why?

Sure, but many times it’s not possible. You want to be caught with 10 or 12 guys on the field, trying to sub mid-play?

 

[Jesse]

Should he sub out on 3rd and long or not, and why?

Sure, but many times it’s not possible. You want to be caught with 10 or 12 guys on the field, trying to sub mid-play?

It’s not that difficult if he knows he’s out on a 3rd and long and the other safety is actively anticipating going in as well. It can be done effectively if the defensive coaches are closely monitoring. I would like to see that in some earlier games this year to work out what the best combination of players is to make the defense and thus the team better for the playoffs.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Sure, but many times it’s not possible. You want to be caught with 10 or 12 guys on the field, trying to sub mid-play?

It’s not that difficult if he knows he’s out on a 3rd and long and the other safety is actively anticipating going in as well. It can be done effectively if the defensive coaches are closely monitoring. I would like to see that in some earlier games this year to work out what the best combination of players is to make the defense and thus the team better for the playoffs.

A lot of that depends on the refs, and how fast they’re letting the opposing offense run.

 

[garizzalies]

:lol:
I love it when multiple-band trolls join powers to form a dino megazord troll.

I don’t follow you much

Oh boy. What a weird trolly thing to say, particularly knowing I’ve been bitch-slapping you around for decades. And for an admittedly multiple-band troll.
Ew. It’s so creepy. I forget sometimes that I’m playing with a nutty creeper

 

[Paytonlives]

The whole RH thing started with kitten nation and kitten fans.... lets leave it in that toilet.

 

[SoldierGriz]

The whole RH thing started with kitten nation and kitten fans.... lets leave it in that toilet.

Good point!

 

[sdk.catfish]

Doesn't really matter where the Robby thing came from - turns out some of you morons might be onto something. Starting logically with the thread title in mind:

1. Many posters agree that the 3-3-5 defense isn't the best defense to stop really good running teams (think of late November 2018 and 2019).
2. At least some agree that Robby couldn't cover his mouth when he sneezes, much less cover moderately talented wide receivers.
3. Turning liabilities into assets is what good coaches do.

Therefore Bobby plays Robby because he wants other teams, especially good physical running teams, to pass more cutting their TOP and helping out the defense by not getting shit-rolled in the 4th quarter. Also may give the Griz more possessions per game for our potent offense to simply outscore the opponent. Must gamble that the QB overthrows a few to those moderately talented wide receivers, they drop a few, and a few hit Robby in the head as he chases down the receiver that is ten yards behind him.

So the answer is to play Robby more, not less - every damn down. Genius, pure genius I say :lol:

 

[hunt-ducks]

You can say whatever you want. Free country. But attributing Robby’s playing time to “being the coach’s son” just makes you a Jesse clone.

Taking RH off the field on ANY down is among the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. These are his pre-season accolades....and he is only a RS Junior.

Preseason All-Big Sky
• Phil Steele 3rd-team Preseason All-America
• Phil Steele 1st-team Preseason All-Big Sky
• HERO Sports Preseason All-America first-team
• HERO Sports Preseason All-Big Sky first-team

Not only is he a tackling machine, but he is exceptional in the backfield...sacks and TFLs. Those matter on 3rd down...

Oh, so coach's sons never receive preferential treatment. NEVER! He must earn everything he gets. I get it. I'm Jessie now? Hardly. But your post displays perfectly the venom against some posters who dare to state that the coach's son just might have a few deficiencies in his game. It's a shame that intelligent football discussion can not occur without the predictable "don't criticize RH, he is All-Conference"....... which to some means that he is the second coming of Troy Polumolu. As I said in a previous post, RH is very good defending the run game, is a hitter like his uncle, and has a nose for the football. However, if you can not see from watching previous games that he is not a good pass defender, then you are either not watching, or unable to evaluation what it takes to be a good pass defender. And, I don't seem to be the Lone Ranger in my statements about RH.

Deon Sanders was an All-Pro CB for 10 years. Was he a great tackler? NO! Was he great at run support? NO!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Taking RH off the field on ANY down is among the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. These are his pre-season accolades....and he is only a RS Junior.

Preseason All-Big Sky
• Phil Steele 3rd-team Preseason All-America
• Phil Steele 1st-team Preseason All-Big Sky
• HERO Sports Preseason All-America first-team
• HERO Sports Preseason All-Big Sky first-team

Not only is he a tackling machine, but he is exceptional in the backfield...sacks and TFLs. Those matter on 3rd down...

Oh, so coach's sons never receive preferential treatment. NEVER! He must earn everything he gets. I get it. I'm Jessie now? Hardly. But your post displays perfectly the venom against some posters who dare to state that the coach's son just might have a few deficiencies in his game. It's a shame that intelligent football discussion can not occur without the predictable "don't criticize RH, he is All-Conference"....... which to some means that he is the second coming of Troy Polumolu. As I said in a previous post, RH is very good defending the run game, is a hitter like his uncle, and has a nose for the football. However, if you can not see from watching previous games that he is not a good pass defender, then you are either not watching, or unable to evaluation what it takes to be a good pass defender. And, I don't seem to be the Lone Ranger in my statements about RH.

Deon Sanders was an All-Pro CB for 10 years. Was he a great tackler? NO! Was he great at run support? NO!

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Get over it, Dill. Robby is going to play, and we are going to win. Hope you're not too mad about it, because that 30-day chip from anger management means something. The HOA at Whispering Pines "Lifestyle Community" agrees.

 

[hunt-ducks]

I’m pretty sure it’s that dill guy that you all harass, it’s not me, but I agree with his assessment. So you are ok with leaving him in on 3rd and long? Care to tell us why you think that’s a good idea.

I know you do. That’s why i called him Jesse. You both attribute Robby’s playing time to being the coach’s son. You’re about the only two on here who think that. It’s not that complicated.

Dude, do you need a refresher on reading comprehension? Stop misquoting me saying that the reason Robby is playing is because he is the coach's son. Re-read my post. Did I say that RH should not be starting? Did I say that he should not be All-Conference? The answer is NO to both. I merely said that being the head coach's son, it may be a factor in RB being replaced on obvious passing downs. PERIOD! If you and your buddies can't admit that RH is not a good pass defender, then you are revealing yourself as being a Hauck homer. Every knowledgeable Griz fan I know agrees that pass defense is Robby's weakness. But carry on. I think Bobby knows that his son is not a great pass defender, even if a few of you don't.

Jessie and me have both asked any of you to state that RH is a great pass defender, and all we hear is crickets, and personal insults.

 

[hunt-ducks]

Oh, so coach's sons never receive preferential treatment. NEVER! He must earn everything he gets. I get it. I'm Jessie now? Hardly. But your post displays perfectly the venom against some posters who dare to state that the coach's son just might have a few deficiencies in his game. It's a shame that intelligent football discussion can not occur without the predictable "don't criticize RH, he is All-Conference"....... which to some means that he is the second coming of Troy Polumolu. As I said in a previous post, RH is very good defending the run game, is a hitter like his uncle, and has a nose for the football. However, if you can not see from watching previous games that he is not a good pass defender, then you are either not watching, or unable to evaluation what it takes to be a good pass defender. And, I don't seem to be the Lone Ranger in my statements about RH.

Deon Sanders was an All-Pro CB for 10 years. Was he a great tackler? NO! Was he great at run support? NO!

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Get over it, Dill. Robby is going to play, and we are going to win. Hope you're not too mad about it, because that 30-day chip from anger management means something. The HOA at Whispering Pines "Lifestyle Community" agrees.

Get over yourself, Sparky. We understand that being a good fan transcends any limited football knowledge you might possess. Facebook calls, dude!

 

[hunt-ducks]

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

Get over it, Dill. Robby is going to play, and we are going to win. Hope you're not too mad about it, because that 30-day chip from anger management means something. The HOA at Whispering Pines "Lifestyle Community" agrees.

Get over yourself, Sparky. We understand that being a good fan transcends any limited football knowledge you might possess. Facebook calls, dude! Your feeble attempt at humor is as funny as a fart in church. But there is always Facebook, huh?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stevie is shook, fellas. Hide your kids. Only a few more posts until the next Dillnoble meltdown.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Get over yourself, Sparky. We understand that being a good fan transcends any limited football knowledge you might possess. Facebook calls, dude! Your feeble attempt at humor is as funny as a fart in church. But there is always Facebook, huh?

Having trouble with the computing machine, fella? Get one of the neighbor's adult grandkids to help you out. Maybe they can remove your lie about playing varsity baseball at UM while they're at it. Listen, Kem's admittedly old, but at least he's honest and knowledgeable. You could learn two of those three things from him, lil' guy.

 

[hunt-ducks]

Having trouble with the computing machine, fella? Get one of the neighbor's adult grandkids to help you out. Maybe they can remove your lie about playing varsity baseball at UM while they're at it. Listen, Kem's admittedly old, but at least he's honest and knowledgeable. You could learn two of those three things from him, lil' guy.

You're just jealous because you couldn't even make the high school girls flag football team. Your football IQ is room temperature. I played varsity baseball at UM. There have been three posters in the past who conformed that fact, because they all played with me. You must have missed it while posting your jokes on Facebook. You remind me of a penny...... two-faced, but worth nothing.

And, I am 5'10, 175, and I have heard that you are 5'8", 250. What a waste of good protoplasm!

 

[hunt-ducks]

Stevie is shook, fellas. Hide your kids. Only a few more posts until the next Dillnoble meltdown.

Fellas? You must have a turd in your pocket. You only have two butt-buddies on this site, and everyone else things you are a total ass hat, as my PMs have validated. I own you, and I realize it hurts, but accept the truth. It will set you free.

Oh, and stop hi-jacking my threads. We discuss football here, something that would escape your psychosis, as well as your knowledge base. You are a black hole, nothing more. An athletic wannabee....... selected last in gym class....... the subject of ridicule by your class mates. I'd love to throw my 92-mile fastball up high-and-tight and watch you cry like a baby. But now, you have a keyboard, and you think you are relevant. But you are still the loser you always were.

 

[hunt-ducks]

Still awaiting any of you football geniuses to explain how Robby Hauck is a great pass defender. I won't hold my breath.......