2019 Record - expectations and reality

[HookedonGriz]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I like your assessment. I unfortunately can’t agree that all those games you listed are gimmes. Monmouth went 8-3 and will be decent and even though North Alabama is relatively new they were 7-4 as an independent and bring back almost everyone. I think we will have our hands full in those games too.

 

[Catsrgrood]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I don’t think this is completely off base, but I don’t necessarily agree with the top half. Using your same breakdown, this is how I see it:

Gimme’s?
Zero, I don’t think there is a single team that you can look at and say that the griz should just beat no matter what, hands down. Sac St is close here.

Should wins:
Sac St
PSU (I mean they beat the griz in Missoula last season, how are they a gimme this next season? I do think the griz should win, but last year shows it’s no gimme)
Idaho
N. Alabama

50/50’s
Monmouth, as stated by others, they were a pretty solid team last year
SDU- solid program in the top FCS conference and its on the road
ISU
MSU- I like the Cats talent level this year and I think they’ll be favored, but this is a 50/50 game every time, regardless

Tough:
Weber
UCD
EWU

Not happening:
Oregon

So if they get the 4 “should wins”, split the 50/50’s and maybe pull one out of the “tough”category, that’s about what I expect. Get into the 6-7 win range.

But what do I know, I’m just a Cats fan

 

[HookedonGriz]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I don’t think this is completely off base, but I don’t necessarily agree with the top half. Using your same breakdown, this is how I see it:

Gimme’s?
Zero, I don’t think there is a single team that you can look at and say that the griz should just beat no matter what, hands down. Sac St is close here.

Should wins:
Sac St
PSU (I mean they beat the griz in Missoula last season, how are they a gimme this next season? I do think the griz should win, but last year shows it’s no gimme)
Idaho
N. Alabama

50/50’s
Monmouth, as stated by others, they were a pretty solid team last year
SDU- solid program in the top FCS conference and its on the road
ISU
MSU- I like the Cats talent level this year and I think they’ll be favored, but this is a 50/50 game every time, regardless

Tough:
Weber
UCD
EWU

Not happening:
Oregon

So if they get the 4 “should wins”, split the 50/50’s and maybe pull one out of the “tough”category, that’s about what I expect. Get into the 6-7 win range.

But what do I know, I’m just a Cats fan

Fair assessment in my opinion and pretty much where I’m at. Where will Cats end up? It’s not their fault but in looking at their schedule it’s like they could fall asleep and wake up in playoffs.

 

[rocklobster]

8-4 or better! Gotta play two good halves!! Had a lot of nice leads at half, only to defensively fall apart in the 2nd half last year! Good adjustments at halftime will equal wins this year, and a playoff bid. Otherwise, a painful 2nd half of the season like last year! Optimistically, I don’t see that happening this year! Go Griz!

 

[Yukon]

4 of the 5 losses last year.

WIU - gave up a punt return for a TD and a fumble that led to a TD with 5 minutes left.
PSU - lost on a 52 yard game ending FG that was brought on by a fumble.
UCD - second half brain fart after having 21-3 lead at half.
MSU - outscored 22-3 in the 4th and had a chance, but fumble on the 1 foot line with 4 sec. left.

My point is that those were young players and horrible let downs. I don't see them repeating this. Yes, schedule this year is way tougher, but so are the Griz. I stand by my "optimistic" hope of 9-3.

 

[Missoula223]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I don’t think this is completely off base, but I don’t necessarily agree with the top half. Using your same breakdown, this is how I see it:

Gimme’s?
Zero, I don’t think there is a single team that you can look at and say that the griz should just beat no matter what, hands down. Sac St is close here.

Should wins:
Sac St
PSU (I mean they beat the griz in Missoula last season, how are they a gimme this next season? I do think the griz should win, but last year shows it’s no gimme)
Idaho
N. Alabama

50/50’s
Monmouth, as stated by others, they were a pretty solid team last year
SDU- solid program in the top FCS conference and its on the road
ISU
MSU- I like the Cats talent level this year and I think they’ll be favored, but this is a 50/50 game every time, regardless

Tough:
Weber
UCD
EWU

Not happening:
Oregon

So if they get the 4 “should wins”, split the 50/50’s and maybe pull one out of the “tough”category, that’s about what I expect. Get into the 6-7 win range.

But what do I know, I’m just a Cats fan

I honestly agree with you for the most part, but tried to heighten my expectations being the typical Griz fan that I am! By gimmes, I guess I would say, the fanbase/admin would be severely disappointed if we dropped any of those. As for the rest of our disagreements, I would say each one is borderline the category that the other one was put in.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

QB, WR, and TE will be solid talent wise. Obviously, our success on O this year will depend on whether or not the OL consistently produces and stays healthy. On D, I like our LB's and the secondary should be improved. Need a pass rush specialist on the DL to emerge. DL is definitely a question mark.

All kind of obvious statements, but very difficult to make a prediction without knowing how we'll compete on the LOS.

 

[Ringneck]

The glass almost always looks half empty from my perspective, and I see no reason to make an exception here. I think we are a 6-6 team next year unless we take dynamic strides forward (especially in the area of maturity - and no, I don't just mean experience) while the rest of the Big Sky remains static. I will never understand those who make predictions that account for our team's improvements but neglect all similar improvement by our opponents.

As of now, I think EWU, MSU, UC-Davis, Weber, and (obviously) Oregon are all more talented teams than the Griz. I'm not sure about Idaho State - they matched our 6-5 record last year. The only games I would feel confident picking us outright are Sac St., Idaho, and North Alabama. Monmouth, South Dakota, and Portland State could all pose challenges.

So, like I said, I think we'll go 6-6. We beat South Dakota, Monmouth, North Alabama, Idaho State, Idaho, and steal a win from Weber State. We lose to MSU, UC-Davis, EWU, Oregon, Idaho State, and give one away to Portland State (that's 4-2 at home and 2-4 on the road, for those keeping score).

 

[AZGrizFan]

4 of the 5 losses last year.

WIU - gave up a punt return for a TD and a fumble that led to a TD with 5 minutes left.
PSU - lost on a 52 yard game ending FG that was brought on by a fumble.
UCD - second half brain fart after having 21-3 lead at half.
MSU - outscored 22-3 in the 4th and had a chance, but fumble on the 1 foot line with 4 sec. left.

My point is that those were young players and horrible let downs. I don't see them repeating this. Yes, schedule this year is way tougher, but so are the Griz. I stand by my "optimistic" hope of 9-3.

We were 10-1 at the end of the 3rd quarter last year. Just get BH to petition the league to shorten the games and we're good to go!

 

[AZGrizFan]

And if we're EVER at a point in our team's development where we're honestly discussing whether we're going to beat a Monmouth or a North Alabama AT HOME then we're fucked anyways.

Those two are the absolute definition of "gimme's" and there's no WAY a Hauck-led team should ever lose to a team like that.

 

[SoldierGriz]

And if we're EVER at a point in our team's development where we're honestly discussing whether we're going to beat a Monmouth or a North Alabama AT HOME then we're f***[*] anyways.

Those two are the absolute definition of "gimme's" and there's no WAY a Hauck-led team should ever lose to a team like that.

They won't.

 

[poorgriz]

And if we're EVER at a point in our team's development where we're honestly discussing whether we're going to beat a Monmouth or a North Alabama AT HOME then we're f***[*] anyways.

Those two are the absolute definition of "gimme's" and there's no WAY a Hauck-led team should ever lose to a team like that.

That's what you and pretty much every other griz fan said about an average PSU team coming to town last year.

 

[dayday]

The glass almost always looks half empty from my perspective, and I see no reason to make an exception here. I think we are a 6-6 team next year unless we take dynamic strides forward (especially in the area of maturity - and no, I don't just mean experience) while the rest of the Big Sky remains static. I will never understand those who make predictions that account for our team's improvements but neglect all similar improvement by our opponents.

As of now, I think EWU, MSU, UC-Davis, Weber, and (obviously) Oregon are all more talented teams than the Griz. I'm not sure about Idaho State - they matched our 6-5 record last year. The only games I would feel confident picking us outright are Sac St., Idaho, and North Alabama. Monmouth, South Dakota, and Portland State could all pose challenges.

So, like I said, I think we'll go 6-6. We beat South Dakota, Monmouth, North Alabama, Idaho State, Idaho, and steal a win from Weber State. We lose to MSU, UC-Davis, EWU, Oregon, Idaho State, and give one away to Portland State (that's 4-2 at home and 2-4 on the road, for those keeping score).

Sac St. should be a lot better as well as they return just about everyone including Thompson in that new offense. PSU was a young team as well. I think ISU losing their QB makes them probably not as solid. So yeah hard saying what it will look like next year for all the teams on the schedule but the expectation should be high regardless.

 

[jcu27]

Pretty sure half these "griz" fans are actually cat fans. This team will fix its errors. If we can just hold on to the damn ball the griz are easily a 10 win team. Cut down the turnovers it's a whole different story. Got too also remember not very many teams are very successful after a coaching change and having to learn whole new schemes. Things should be in order this year. And btw bobcats go back to losing seasons. Everything will be back to normal in good time. Have faith! I think Griz are going to open some eyes this year. I'm 100% confident in these student athletes and the coaching staff that is put in place. We will be great again.

 

[Catsrgrood]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I don’t think this is completely off base, but I don’t necessarily agree with the top half. Using your same breakdown, this is how I see it:

Gimme’s?
Zero, I don’t think there is a single team that you can look at and say that the griz should just beat no matter what, hands down. Sac St is close here.

Should wins:
Sac St
PSU (I mean they beat the griz in Missoula last season, how are they a gimme this next season? I do think the griz should win, but last year shows it’s no gimme)
Idaho
N. Alabama

50/50’s
Monmouth, as stated by others, they were a pretty solid team last year
SDU- solid program in the top FCS conference and its on the road
ISU
MSU- I like the Cats talent level this year and I think they’ll be favored, but this is a 50/50 game every time, regardless

Tough:
Weber
UCD
EWU

Not happening:
Oregon

So if they get the 4 “should wins”, split the 50/50’s and maybe pull one out of the “tough”category, that’s about what I expect. Get into the 6-7 win range.

But what do I know, I’m just a Cats fan

Fair assessment in my opinion and pretty much where I’m at. Where will Cats end up? It’s not their fault but in looking at their schedule it’s like they could fall asleep and wake up in playoffs.

I won’t turn this into a whole Cats discussion, but since you asked;
My quick breakdown is I’m seeing them as an 8-9 win team this year. I think they’ll be good, but not going to sit here and claim they’ll be great in April.
Texas Tech is a long shot, UCD is at their place and will be tough, and I see a handful of 50/50 games on their schedule so they could drop a couple of those.

 

[first11]

Toughest schedule start to finish

6-6 and it won’t be any cakewalk
7-5 do able if we steal a tough one at home (ISU)

Seems everyone all getting better and competition a tougher slog

 

[Spanky2]

I don’t see Bobby losing to state college again.

 

[jcu27]

I don’t see Bobby losing to state college again.

Blasphemy :twisted:

 

[SaskGriz]

Gimmes
- N. Alabama
- Monmouth
- @ Sac St
- @ PSU
- Idaho

Should Wins
- @ SDU
(10 returning starters on offense, positionless defense that makes it hard to prepare for sets them out of the "gimme" column)

50/50s
- ISU
(wacked MSU last year. return 9 on offense that put up almost 40/game. Defense I believe returns 8 starters? Staff has all worked for BH and have a good understanding of what we do)
- Weber
(Salty defense that returns everyone, I think this one will be tough but doable)
- MSU
(Hate to say it, but they're a good team both from a personnel standpoint and how they are coached)

Tough ones
-UCD
(We can say we should have beat them, which I agree. But once they got clicking late their offense kicked ass. Top 10 team)
- EWU
(Might be the best coached team in the BCS. Lost 9 defensive starters before playoffs last year and still went to the Chipper. A lot of those guys got a Medical Redshirt)

Not-gonna-happens
- OU
(For obvious reasons)

If we can get 2 of the 3 50/50s and everything else goes as I project, 8 wins with things going our way for the most part. But that's why you play the game!

I don’t think this is completely off base, but I don’t necessarily agree with the top half. Using your same breakdown, this is how I see it:

Gimme’s?
Zero, I don’t think there is a single team that you can look at and say that the griz should just beat no matter what, hands down. Sac St is close here.

Should wins:
Sac St
PSU (I mean they beat the griz in Missoula last season, how are they a gimme this next season? I do think the griz should win, but last year shows it’s no gimme)
Idaho
N. Alabama

50/50’s
Monmouth, as stated by others, they were a pretty solid team last year
SDU- solid program in the top FCS conference and its on the road
ISU
MSU- I like the Cats talent level this year and I think they’ll be favored, but this is a 50/50 game every time, regardless

Tough:
Weber
UCD
EWU

Not happening:
Oregon

So if they get the 4 “should wins”, split the 50/50’s and maybe pull one out of the “tough”category, that’s about what I expect. Get into the 6-7 win range.

But what do I know, I’m just a Cats fan

Fair assessment in my opinion and pretty much where I’m at. Where will Cats end up? It’s not their fault but in looking at their schedule it’s like they could fall asleep and wake up in playoffs.

I won’t turn this into a whole Cats discussion, but since you asked;
My quick breakdown is I’m seeing them as an 8-9 win team this year. I think they’ll be good, but not going to sit here and claim they’ll be great in April.
Texas Tech is a long shot, UCD is at their place and will be tough, and I see a handful of 50/50 games on their schedule so they could drop a couple of those.

I see the Cats with a two win season, I think you beat Norfolk State at home, and unless Northern Colorado is a lot better that could be your road win.

 

[poorgriz]

Pretty sure half these "griz" fans are actually cat fans. This team will fix its errors. If we can just hold on to the damn ball the griz are easily a 10 win team. Cut down the turnovers it's a whole different story. Got too also remember not very many teams are very successful after a coaching change and having to learn whole new schemes. Things should be in order this year. And btw bobcats go back to losing seasons. Everything will be back to normal in good time. Have faith! I think Griz are going to open some eyes this year. I'm 100% confident in these student athletes and the coaching staff that is put in place. We will be great again.

Uh... sorry to burst your bubble but that ain't happening! :thumb: