2014 coaching staff: If an internal hire was made

[AZGrizFan]

I have my frustrations with Ty's defense, not the least of which is his ability to lead. He is like a father figure to Coyle and Tripp and many others who have played under him at UM. My issue if he were to apply for the head coaching job at UM, which I'm certain he will once it's vacant, which it's not in 2014, and very well might not be again in 2015, would be the fact that he was turned down for the head job at Montana Tech. How could Haslam justify hiring someone for a prestigious head coaching job such as Montana when that person couldn't get an NAIA head coaching job. And please, Hammer and Oredigger, I have plenty of respect for Tech, and I happen to think Chuck Morrell is a good coach and great guy, so don't think I'm knocking Tech. I'm just saying there's a reason Ty didn't get that job, and instead, he's a candidate for the head coach at UM? Not in my book. But, I also agree with Brint, that's not for me to judge or say actually. Unlike others on this board, I'm FULLY AWARE and fully accepting of the fact that I will play NO role in who the next head coach of the Grizzlies will be.

That, my friend, is some SERIOUSLY fucked up logic. Unless you were actually IN the room when he was rejected for the Tech job, you have no idea why the decision was made. Many, many times it's about personality fits, preferred leadership styles, etc., etc., and not just about the X's and O's of football. Just because Tech's AD didn't think Ty was a good fit for THEM doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good fit for US.

 

[AZGrizFan]

anyone with a clue knows you can make stats say whatever you want. using your obvious flawed logic and stats, Flynn is a better QB than Rodgers. Ty will never be the HC of the Griz, you can bet your kids on that.

Not sure how that works, but Flynn is running for his LIFE 90% of the time....

 

[PlayerRep]

See... this I find funny.

The team gets hit with darn near a nuclear bomb when it's OC/DC leave and the head coach is fired and then starting QB goes on trial and is suspended for the season. The team goes 5-6. It's not good.

Then the next year everything is expected to be magically fixed? The team doubled its wins and halved its losses, 10-3. That's a good accomplishment.

It is great? No, the Griz were 0-3 against playoff contending teams.

It the world over and should this season be chalked up to a total waste? Hardly. A 10-2 regular season is a great accomplishment considering what this team has been hit with.

Also, "Lost so soundly" other than the NAU game the Griz lost by 1 score to EWU and Coastal. Yes both required comeback attempts but the offense showed up and the defense made adjustments and shut down the teams.

Looking at those three losses give some credit to the defense for late adjustments:

Coastal: 177 yards (of 476 total), 7 points, 1 turnover in the 2nd half
EWU: 202 yards (of 540 total), 14 points, 2 turnovers in the 2nd half
NAU: 209 yards (of 416 total), 6 points, 1 turnover, 1 missed fieldgoal in the 2nd half

The defense, under the leadership of Gregorak made pretty good halftime adjustments in all three losses.

Part of this "adjustment" was the opposition sitting on the ball trying to run clock. That is hardly due to Ty Gregorak making such awesome coaching adjustments. There are coaches around the BSC that will tell you going up against the current staff is much easier than the last one. The record seems to indicate they could be right.

You truly don't understand football.

I will play the " I played the game" post you always resort to, and freely admit how stupid that sounds. Nick Saban is 5' 6", and obviously never played the game at a high level, so guess he can't coach can he?

Saban did play football at a high level. Started at safety for a D-I team and conference champion. Played for Don James. Played with Jack Lambert. I assume that you of all people don't have a problem with short people.

 

[griz4life]

Part of this "adjustment" was the opposition sitting on the ball trying to run clock. That is hardly due to Ty Gregorak making such awesome coaching adjustments. There are coaches around the BSC that will tell you going up against the current staff is much easier than the last one. The record seems to indicate they could be right.

You truly don't understand football.

I will play the " I played the game" post you always resort to, and freely admit how stupid that sounds. Nick Saban is 5' 6", and obviously never played the game at a high level, so guess he can't coach can he?

Saban did play football at a high level. Started at safety for a D-I team and conference champion. Played for Don James. Played with Jack Lambert. I assume that you of all people don't have a problem with short people.

:lol: :lol: :lol: And that is why if I ever create an alter ego on eGriz, it will be a marriage counselor.

 

[garizzalies]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

 

[garizzalies]

Ty is about the worst candidate we could ask for. Think about it: if the master (Paulson) never got the job, what makes you think the apprentice (Ty) will?

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

 

[garizzalies]

so by that logic, UM must have put the 84 trophy in MSU's hall to get them in trouble?

 

[griz5700]

+1 for Justin Green.

 

[griz5700]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

Was he out partying while on a recruiting trip?

 

[poorgriz]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

LOL... really? So he was framed? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[GrizBacker04]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

 

[SaskGriz]

So... save the Sac State game I'm just not seeing that:

2nd half stats:

App St: 171 yards, 3 points, 2 turnovers
UND: 105 yards, 7 points
OPSU: 86 yards, 0 points, 2 turnovers
PSU: 186 yards, 7 points, 2 turnovers
UCD: 149 yards, 7 points
CPSLO: 131 yards, 0 points, 2 turnovers
Sac: 300 yards, 28 points, 1 turnover
USD: 200 yards, 3 points, 1 turnover
Weber: 4 yards, 0 points, 3 turnovers
MSU: 194 yards, 7 points, 1 turnover

So looking at the Grizzlies final stats their defense allowed on average 381 yards per game which is about 191 per half. Looking at that the defense did better in the 2nd half on 6 of the 10 games, were just about at the average in 3 of the 10, and just 1 of the 10 games they were pretty badly burned.

Additionally, scoring, the Grizzly defense allowed just about 23 points per game, which, if all things were even, means they should be allowing 11.5 points per half. However the team was allowing 7.6 points per half. And if you get more technical and remove a few scores opposing teams special teams or defenses scored on the Griz the Grizzly defense was allowing less than 1 TD per game in the 2nd half (6.2 points per game).

Call me crazy, but that seems pretty damn good.

If you want to hump Ty's leg thinking he is the man for the job, be my guest. I will just be thankful you are not making the decision. :thumb:

In other words, you can't refute the stats, so it's all in your head?

anyone with a clue knows you can make stats say whatever you want. using your obvious flawed logic and stats, Flynn is a better QB than Rodgers. Ty will never be the HC of the Griz, you can bet your kids on that.

Turns out you can't actually bet your kids, God knows I've tried!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Grizbacker1]

Part of this "adjustment" was the opposition sitting on the ball trying to run clock. That is hardly due to Ty Gregorak making such awesome coaching adjustments. There are coaches around the BSC that will tell you going up against the current staff is much easier than the last one. The record seems to indicate they could be right.

You truly don't understand football.

I will play the " I played the game" post you always resort to, and freely admit how stupid that sounds. Nick Saban is 5' 6", and obviously never played the game at a high level, so guess he can't coach can he?

Saban did play football at a high level. Started at safety for a D-I team and conference champion. Played for Don James. Played with Jack Lambert. I assume that you of all people don't have a problem with short people.

There you go sticking up for Pickle Boy again lmfao

 

[GrizLA]

If you want to hump Ty's leg thinking he is the man for the job, be my guest. I will just be thankful you are not making the decision. :thumb:

In other words, you can't refute the stats, so it's all in your head?

anyone with a clue knows you can make stats say whatever you want. using your obvious flawed logic and stats, Flynn is a better QB than Rodgers. Ty will never be the HC of the Griz, you can bet your kids on that.

Turns out you can't actually bet your kids, God knows I've tried!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, THAT is funny! Finally something good in this thread...You be playin' the game...

 

[Grizbacker1]

Mr Wahlberg,

Your very own Egriz awards have Ty coming in 4th place I believe. Not exactly a ringing endorsement from something you created yourself. Maybe you should have employed Obama tactics and Ty would win in a landslide.

 

[PlayerRep]

Yes, the CU strip club stuff is still on the first page of any Google search for Ty Gregorak. That might be too much for Engstrom's change in leadership.

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

Was he out partying while on a recruiting trip?

No, he wasn't on a recruiting trip. He had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip.

 

[PlayerRep]

I agree. However, it was eventually shown that TG was never at the strip club--proven by the video.

So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

 

[grizcountry420]

:lol:

 

[Htowngriz]

There is a new king on the block and it is NDSU.

Ya think?

We'll see what happens with them after they lose most of their coaching staff and about 800 seniors.