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2014 coaching staff: If an internal hire was made

PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
garizzalies said:
So i assume that because there is no video of him breaking into the bouncer's car to steal the gun and wallet that that never happened either? So how did he get that stuff? Funny, the same conundrum applies to MSU's 84 championship.

No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.
 
Grizbacker1 said:
Mr Wahlberg,

Your very own Egriz awards have Ty coming in 4th place I believe. Not exactly a ringing endorsement from something you created yourself. Maybe you should have employed Obama tactics and Ty would win in a landslide. ;)

Just because I think he's a good fit for it suddenly means all of Griz nation will as well? And by Obama tactics you mean win the majority vote nationally twice, ok yeah sure.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Who was the NFL commentator (I think during the Pittsburgh-Cincy game) who was talking about how overrated "halftime adjustments" are in football? I had to snicker at that one, because I tend to agree: if you have to make major adjustments it just means you really screwed up the first half. :)
More likely means your game plan was flawed.
 
BWahlberg said:
And by Obama tactics you mean win the majority vote nationally twice, ok yeah sure.
We're beginning to get a better picture of how he won them, aren't we....
 
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

OK, I've been in a "mock marriage", but I don't know what a "mock reunion" is. Does it involve the "mock turtle" from Alice in Wonderland?
 
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
No video, not seen by parking attendant near car, no finger prints on car, no evidence of car being broken into, shown on hotel videos checking in and coming through hotel not carrying anything. Must have been put in room by someone who wanted to get him in trouble.

That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

Here are some lies. You said he was on a recruiting trip, and then you quote an article saying he was not on the recruiting trip yet. As I stated, the recruiting trip hadn't started, as the article says. What's your point on saying he, as a UNLV employee, rented a car? So what? Where's your source saying he used a UNLV credit card? Even if true, who cares? People use company credit cards all the time, and then pay or reimburse for the expense. What matters is who ultimately pays for the charge.

The big picture points are: all charges were dismissed; he opted not to sue the Boulder police; his contract was not renewed by the AD; and the AD later gave him a recommendation for a job. So, there was bad investigation by the Boulder police and bad reporting by the Boulder/Denver press. He has since been hired by Central WA and UM. He is a very good coach.

Like I said, get out of here with your BS, and stop lying and defaming TG.
 
BWahlberg said:
Grizbacker1 said:
Mr Wahlberg,

Your very own Egriz awards have Ty coming in 4th place I believe. Not exactly a ringing endorsement from something you created yourself. Maybe you should have employed Obama tactics and Ty would win in a landslide. ;)

Just because I think he's a good fit for it suddenly means all of Griz nation will as well? And by Obama tactics you mean win the majority vote nationally twice, ok yeah sure.

One explanation is that the poll shows how many unknowledgable fans are following egriz. Another is that the most popular coach isn't necessarily the coach most suited to be a head coach.
 
kemajic said:
AllWeatherFan said:
Who was the NFL commentator (I think during the Pittsburgh-Cincy game) who was talking about how overrated "halftime adjustments" are in football? I had to snicker at that one, because I tend to agree: if you have to make major adjustments it just means you really screwed up the first half. :)
More likely means your game plan was flawed.

I like when reporters interview coaches after wins, ask them what adjustments they made at halftime or how did their team turns things around after the half, and the coach says that they didn't make any halftime adjustments and the team just played/executed better in the second half.
 
Silvertip said:
To hell with anymore infernal internal hires... Been there, done that. :fuel:

No Sh*t! Delaney should not have been given another year. One more name added to the UM Golden Parachute club.
 
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
That doesn't also include the fact that he rented a car as a UNLV employee and was driving with a suspended license due to a DUI. That alone could be considered a fireable offense. Then you add in the mess that was that night. His decision to drive with a suspended license and not tell UNLV of his DUI probably contributed to his firing just as much, if not more, than waking up and having someone else's gun in his hotel room with no idea how it got there.

He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

Here are some lies. You said he was on a recruiting trip, and then you quote an article saying he was not on the recruiting trip yet. As I stated, the recruiting trip hadn't started, as the article says. What's your point on saying he, as a UNLV employee, rented a car? So what? Where's your source saying he used a UNLV credit card? Even if true, who cares? People use company credit cards all the time, and then pay or reimburse for the expense. What matters is who ultimately pays for the charge.

The big picture points are: all charges were dismissed; he opted not to sue the Boulder police; his contract was not renewed by the AD; and the AD later gave him a recommendation for a job. So, there was bad investigation by the Boulder police and bad reporting by the Boulder/Denver press. He has since been hired by Central WA and UM. He is a very good coach.

Like I said, get out of here with your BS, and stop lying and defaming TG.

Feel free to gloss over the fact that he was driving a rental car with a suspended license due to a DUI. That's where who payed really matters. Sure, the recruiting trip hadn't started yet, but who paid for his plane ticket to Denver, the rental car, etc.? UNLV. That trip was payed for in advance through the school's travel agent. As you know, coaches do that all the time. Fly in early or leave late from a recruiting trip, to visit family/friends. as the cost is essentially no different.

Again, as I have said, he is a good coach who is improving. Everyone makes mistakes and almost everyone deserves the chance to move on from them and get another chance. But to stick one's head in the sand and blindly believe Gregorak carries no fault during that fiasco, especially for driving with a suspended license, is something else. Imagine if he would have got into an accident with a suspended license while in a car rented by UNLV.
 
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
He wasn't on a recruiting trip. Had gone to Boulder to visit college buddies, prior to a recruiting trip. All charges were dropped, because all were false and the Boulder police had not done a proper or complete investigation. I heard the UNLV AD who let him go, gave him a recommendation for the Tech job. Stop making up stuff and telling lies.

Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

Here are some lies. You said he was on a recruiting trip, and then you quote an article saying he was not on the recruiting trip yet. As I stated, the recruiting trip hadn't started, as the article says. What's your point on saying he, as a UNLV employee, rented a car? So what? Where's your source saying he used a UNLV credit card? Even if true, who cares? People use company credit cards all the time, and then pay or reimburse for the expense. What matters is who ultimately pays for the charge.

The big picture points are: all charges were dismissed; he opted not to sue the Boulder police; his contract was not renewed by the AD; and the AD later gave him a recommendation for a job. So, there was bad investigation by the Boulder police and bad reporting by the Boulder/Denver press. He has since been hired by Central WA and UM. He is a very good coach.

Like I said, get out of here with your BS, and stop lying and defaming TG.

Feel free to gloss over the fact that he was driving a rental car with a suspended license due to a DUI. That's where who payed really matters. Sure, the recruiting trip hadn't started yet, but who paid for his plane ticket to Denver, the rental car, etc.? UNLV. That trip was payed for in advance through the school's travel agent. As you know, coaches do that all the time. Fly in early or leave late from a recruiting trip, to visit family/friends. as the cost is essentially no different.

Again, as I have said, he is a good coach who is improving. Everyone makes mistakes and almost everyone deserves the chance to move on from them and get another chance. But to stick one's head in the sand and blindly believe Gregorak carries no fault during that fiasco, especially for driving with a suspended license, is something else. Imagine if he would have got into an accident with a suspended license while in a car rented by UNLV.

Jesus Hammer… don’t you know anything? I would think everyone on here would be well versed in how things are nowadays with the grizzly program. No players, coaches, or anyone else associated with the program ever do anything wrong! Whenever there’s an arrest or legal matter, you can rest assured that the charges are bogus, and the po po are simply out to GET THE GRIZ!!! Just ask PR… it happens all the time. It’s really quite incredible how often cops screw up when arresting the griz… PR points it out all the time. You guys should to something about it.
 
poorgriz said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

Here are some lies. You said he was on a recruiting trip, and then you quote an article saying he was not on the recruiting trip yet. As I stated, the recruiting trip hadn't started, as the article says. What's your point on saying he, as a UNLV employee, rented a car? So what? Where's your source saying he used a UNLV credit card? Even if true, who cares? People use company credit cards all the time, and then pay or reimburse for the expense. What matters is who ultimately pays for the charge.

The big picture points are: all charges were dismissed; he opted not to sue the Boulder police; his contract was not renewed by the AD; and the AD later gave him a recommendation for a job. So, there was bad investigation by the Boulder police and bad reporting by the Boulder/Denver press. He has since been hired by Central WA and UM. He is a very good coach.

Like I said, get out of here with your BS, and stop lying and defaming TG.

Feel free to gloss over the fact that he was driving a rental car with a suspended license due to a DUI. That's where who payed really matters. Sure, the recruiting trip hadn't started yet, but who paid for his plane ticket to Denver, the rental car, etc.? UNLV. That trip was payed for in advance through the school's travel agent. As you know, coaches do that all the time. Fly in early or leave late from a recruiting trip, to visit family/friends. as the cost is essentially no different.

Again, as I have said, he is a good coach who is improving. Everyone makes mistakes and almost everyone deserves the chance to move on from them and get another chance. But to stick one's head in the sand and blindly believe Gregorak carries no fault during that fiasco, especially for driving with a suspended license, is something else. Imagine if he would have got into an accident with a suspended license while in a car rented by UNLV.

Jesus Hammer… don’t you know anything? I would think everyone on here would be well versed in how things are nowadays with the grizzly program. No players, coaches, or anyone else associated with the program ever do anything wrong! Whenever there’s an arrest or legal matter, you can rest assured that the charges are bogus, and the po po are simply out to GET THE GRIZ!!! Just ask PR… it happens all the time. It’s really quite incredible how often cops screw up when arresting the griz… PR points it out all the time. You guys should to something about it.

hey dumbass, PR hardly speaks for Griz Nation. NO ONE likes to see anyone arrested, student athlete or not. And don't act like everything is rosy over there, because you know it isn't. More reported rapes this year at msu by FAR than UM. go back to to boobcat nation and hump one of your scat friends
 
So, assuming we go "external," who do you think we should go after? What are some names of coaches you'd like to see considered? [This isn't an argument, it's a legitimate question.]
 
Aaron Hernandez isn't doing anything right now and he would definitely be able to relate to the problems Hauck seeded into my program a decade ago.

If he's acquired I say give him a shot........no pun intended.......and no offense to TG.
 
poorgriz said:
GrizBacker04 said:
PlayerRep said:
GrizBacker04 said:
Tell me where I am making stuff up and telling lies. From http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/01/vindication-for-gregorak-comes-much-too-late/:

He was bound for the Denver area to recruit beginning May 3, but went a few days early to join some former Colorado teammates in Boulder for what he called a “mock reunion.”

Then it was discovered that he’d been driving on a suspended license, part of the resolution of a DUI citation he received in Minnesota last summer.


Livengood probably did give him a recommendation for the Tech job. Ty's a good coach. Unfortunately, at that time, Livengood essentially had no choice but to let him go. Would your employer think it was alright to rent a car with a company credit card and drive with a suspended license due to a DUI? I know quite a bit about the situation, thanks though.

Here are some lies. You said he was on a recruiting trip, and then you quote an article saying he was not on the recruiting trip yet. As I stated, the recruiting trip hadn't started, as the article says. What's your point on saying he, as a UNLV employee, rented a car? So what? Where's your source saying he used a UNLV credit card? Even if true, who cares? People use company credit cards all the time, and then pay or reimburse for the expense. What matters is who ultimately pays for the charge.

The big picture points are: all charges were dismissed; he opted not to sue the Boulder police; his contract was not renewed by the AD; and the AD later gave him a recommendation for a job. So, there was bad investigation by the Boulder police and bad reporting by the Boulder/Denver press. He has since been hired by Central WA and UM. He is a very good coach.

Like I said, get out of here with your BS, and stop lying and defaming TG.

Feel free to gloss over the fact that he was driving a rental car with a suspended license due to a DUI. That's where who payed really matters. Sure, the recruiting trip hadn't started yet, but who paid for his plane ticket to Denver, the rental car, etc.? UNLV. That trip was payed for in advance through the school's travel agent. As you know, coaches do that all the time. Fly in early or leave late from a recruiting trip, to visit family/friends. as the cost is essentially no different.

Again, as I have said, he is a good coach who is improving. Everyone makes mistakes and almost everyone deserves the chance to move on from them and get another chance. But to stick one's head in the sand and blindly believe Gregorak carries no fault during that fiasco, especially for driving with a suspended license, is something else. Imagine if he would have got into an accident with a suspended license while in a car rented by UNLV.

Jesus Hammer… don’t you know anything? I would think everyone on here would be well versed in how things are nowadays with the grizzly program. No players, coaches, or anyone else associated with the program ever do anything wrong! Whenever there’s an arrest or legal matter, you can rest assured that the charges are bogus, and the po po are simply out to GET THE GRIZ!!! Just ask PR… it happens all the time. It’s really quite incredible how often cops screw up when arresting the griz… PR points it out all the time. You guys should to something about it.

Actually, this is how it goes. A UM athlete gets in trouble or is cited for something. It's immediately all over the internet and in the Missoulian. More the half the time the matter is blown out of proportion, overcharged, or not true. In these cases, some posters start learning what actually happened and/or understand the legal aspect, and realize that the matter will likely be dropped or reduced in scope or never go anywhere--and start posting this. The other half or so of the time, nothing is said or posted by these posters, including myself. Even after matters don't go anywhere, are dropped, or significantly reduced in scope, some posters, like yourself, refuse to admit or acknowledge what actually occurred or the result was--and continue to post false and incorrect information--and sometimes just plain lie. In the case of what Pflu/O'Day did that was horrible for the program or needed fixing/firing, when I ask for specifics, no one ever steps up to provide a list of what needed to be fixed. Just general conclusionary statements that are not correct, and no support or backup at all for the statements/conclusions.
 
kemajic said:
BWahlberg said:
And by Obama tactics you mean win the majority vote nationally twice, ok yeah sure.
We're beginning to get a better picture of how he won them, aren't we....

How would that be Einstein? That the Supreme Court wasn't able to overturn the popular vote ala 2000?
 
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