#11 Montana @ #5 Eastern Washington Game Thread

[hiline1961]

wow, CP on own 42 with 27 seconds left. Down by 2.

ISU is a good team. ISU/MSU next week should be interesting

I definitely agree!! BTW, ISU stops CP on 4th - about 10 seconds left.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Now we need MSU to beat ISU. Tall order, I'm afraid.

 

[hiline1961]

wow, CP on own 42 with 27 seconds left. Down by 2.

ISU is a good team. ISU/MSU next week should be interesting

I definitely agree!! BTW, ISU stops CP on 4th - about 10 seconds left.

ISU win - and know they're looking for some cat ass!!!

 

[hiline1961]

wow, CP on own 42 with 27 seconds left. Down by 2.

ISU is a good team. ISU/MSU next week should be interesting

I definitely agree!! BTW, ISU stops CP on 4th - about 10 seconds left.

ISU win - and know they're looking for some cat ass!!!

Whoa - the announcers are saying that next week's game is for a playoff berth. If ISU wins, the announcers say they will go to the playoffs

 

[hiline1961]

Kramer looking plump but happy

 

[grizindabox]

ISU is a good team. ISU/MSU next week should be interesting

I definitely agree!! BTW, ISU stops CP on 4th - about 10 seconds left.

ISU win - and know they're looking for some cat ass!!!

Whoa - the announcers are saying that next week's game is for a playoff berth. If ISU wins, the announcers say they will go to the playoffs

ISU would be in a very good spot if they win in Bozeman next week

 

[hiline1961]

ISU game announcers say that Griz are done for the season

 

[grizindabox]

ISU game announcers say that Griz are done for the season

Think you should just quit listening to the ISU announcers

 

[grizfan47]

I don't know if I totally agree with that. I think we have good talent but certainly not dominating talent. We had the second best QB on the field today. We had the second best receivers on the field today. Lost of overthrown balls and dropped passes. Our special teams play gave up a TD. Our O line certainly is not the best in the league, or maybe even this game. Many missed tackles. I am certainly not defending this coaching staff as I have stated....it is time for a change of direction. But it is not ALL on the coaches. Players must execute. However, even some of that can lay at the feet of the coaches.

Perhaps not dominating like the Griz have had in the past. I do think it was good enough to win today though, by a two score margin. It seems to me the coaching staff shits down both legs anytime they get some success. Case in point, the first drive. The Griz are basically imposing their will, then get cute with the QB throw back play. WHY? That play should never be called that close to the endzone. With that play, you hope JJ gets lost. When the D only has 12 yards to defend, that makes it easier on the defense. I'm ok with the play, but it's how they applied it that sucked. Ty G refused to matchup personnel wise, and that boggles the mind. People bitch on here about LB's over running tackles, but in space how can you expect a LB'er to keep up with a receiver? The 5 yd out by EWU on third and relatively short (4-6 yds) was almost automatic. Maybe they could have a DB in that situation.

As Bill Bellicheck says, it's all about situational football. Why don't the Griz move the pocket for JJ? He's mobile, throws on the run pretty well, and could always have a run option. It's so crazy it might just work... Not to mention you can run misdirection off of the fakes/runs. With the O-line problems, misdirection would be their best friend. Not to mention they are relatively light, so I imagine they are a little more nimble than we are used to seeing. But nope, it's run, run, fade until they get down and things get desperate. The coaching staff is over their head.

Inland, I don't disagree with anything you posted. I am on record saying it is time for a change of direction. All I am saying is the day that the Griz had dominating talent and depth that would start for other Big Sky teams is gone. The Griz do not put the best player talent on the field every game. However, we do have some players that could dominate that maybe aren't being utilized the best they could. I don't know that we are always prepared as well as we should be. I certainly don't have all the answers, hell I have none. I am merely a fan that has an opinion.

 

[hiline1961]

ISU game announcers say that Griz are done for the season

Think you should just quit listening to the ISU announcers

Yes, you're probably right!!

 

[Inland NW Griz]

Everyone wants to hang their hat on the Griz getting in because of revenue...not so sure that is as big of a factor as many want it to be.

I think the Griz's best chance is the kitties to beat ISU and the Griz destroy the kitties in the Brawl. (all assuming the Griz beat SUU) Even then it's a crap shoot, don't think revenue comes into it either. The Griz draw good in the playoffs relative to other teams, but we aren't talking millions... probably not even hundreds of thousands..

 

[grizfan47]

ISU game announcers say that Griz are done for the season

They may be right. Even if there is a chance, there is no guarantee we win the next two games. The Cats are a lot like EWU. I think we can beat them but I am certainly not ready to predict we will beat them.

We have put ourselves in this position and the end result may be....we are a middle of the pack team.

 

[Inland NW Griz]

Inland, I don't disagree with anything you posted. I am on record saying it is time for a change of direction. All I am saying is the day that the Griz had dominating talent and depth that would start for other Big Sky teams is gone. The Griz do not put the best player talent on the field every game. However, we do have some players that could dominate that maybe aren't being utilized the best they could. I don't know that we are always prepared as well as we should be. I certainly don't have all the answers, hell I have none. I am merely a fan that has an opinion.

No doubt the conference has caught up! I think we are on the same page! :thumb: arty:

 

[grizindabox]

ISU game announcers say that Griz are done for the season

They may be right. Even if there is a chance, there is no guarantee we win the next two games. The Cats are a lot like EWU. I think we can beat them but I am certainly not ready to predict we will beat them.

We have put ourselves in this position and the end result may be....we are a middle of the pack team.

key to the Cats is not letting Prukop beat you with his running...

 

[mtgrizrule]

Everyone wants to hang their hat on the Griz getting in because of revenue...not so sure that is as big of a factor as many want it to be.

I think the Griz's best chance is the kitties to beat ISU and the Griz destroy the kitties in the Brawl. (all assuming the Griz beat SUU) Even then it's a crap shoot, don't think revenue comes into it either. The Griz draw good in the playoffs relative to other teams, but we aren't talking millions... probably not even hundreds of thousands..

I agree regarding the MSU/ISU game. As for revenue let's run some numbers here. Safe to expect the GRIZ drawing 18k for a playoff game at $30 per ticket (that will be determined later), many other 4 loss FCS programs will be lucky to draw 10k. Just using those example that is a difference of $240,000 on ticket sales alone. Add in the difference in the GRIZ with a considerably higher bid. AT worse, I am guessing about $300,000 difference. I feel that would come into play more than we will ever know.

 

[grizindabox]

Everyone wants to hang their hat on the Griz getting in because of revenue...not so sure that is as big of a factor as many want it to be.

I think the Griz's best chance is the kitties to beat ISU and the Griz destroy the kitties in the Brawl. (all assuming the Griz beat SUU) Even then it's a crap shoot, don't think revenue comes into it either. The Griz draw good in the playoffs relative to other teams, but we aren't talking millions... probably not even hundreds of thousands..

I agree regarding the MSU/ISU game. As for revenue let's run some numbers here. Safe to expect the GRIZ drawing 18k for a playoff game at $30 per ticket (that will be determined later), many other 4 loss FCS programs will be lucky to draw 10k. Just using those example that is a difference of $240,000 on ticket sales alone. Add in the difference in the GRIZ with a considerably higher bid. AT worse, I am guessing about $300,000 difference. I feel that would come into play more than we will ever know.

but should it?

 

[mtgrizrule]

Everyone wants to hang their hat on the Griz getting in because of revenue...not so sure that is as big of a factor as many want it to be.

I think the Griz's best chance is the kitties to beat ISU and the Griz destroy the kitties in the Brawl. (all assuming the Griz beat SUU) Even then it's a crap shoot, don't think revenue comes into it either. The Griz draw good in the playoffs relative to other teams, but we aren't talking millions... probably not even hundreds of thousands..

I agree regarding the MSU/ISU game. As for revenue let's run some numbers here. Safe to expect the GRIZ drawing 18k for a playoff game at $30 per ticket (that will be determined later), many other 4 loss FCS programs will be lucky to draw 10k. Just using those example that is a difference of $240,000 on ticket sales alone. Add in the difference in the GRIZ with a considerably higher bid. AT worse, I am guessing about $300,000 difference. I feel that would come into play more than we will ever know.

but should it?

We shall see. Won't have to worry about it if the GRIZ don't win the last 2 games.

 

[grizindabox]

I am not sure if an 8-4 Griz team gets in...have to wait and see how many 8-4ish type teams there are at seasons end. But 8-4 does not guarantee anything

 

[Inland NW Griz]

agree regarding the MSU/ISU game. As for revenue let's run some numbers here. Safe to expect the GRIZ drawing 18k for a playoff game at $30 per ticket (that will be determined later), many other 4 loss FCS programs will be lucky to draw 10k. Just using those example that is a difference of $240,000 on ticket sales alone. Add in the difference in the GRIZ with a considerably higher bid. AT worse, I am guessing about $300,000 difference. I feel that would come into play more than we will ever know.

Doesn't the NCAA set the prices on tickets? Not sure it's $30 per, but your point is taken. Only problem is the NCAA - I assume - is working in the billions. I don't think a few 100K is going to sway them and risk the questions of favoring a team. Especially when that team was 10-3 last year and got it's ass handed to them at home, even with the mythic COLD & LOUD...

 

[grizfan47]

Personally, I hope we don't get into the playoffs based on revenue. If we are not good enough to deserve the game then I would rather a deserving team get the spot. I also think an evaluation of MD's performance for the season be based on play on the field, not butts in the seats.