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Spring game?

ElrodGrizzly said:
Around the country less and less teams are doing them. I haven't heard Kennedy talk about it, but the general reasons are about not letting other teams get eyes on our young players to help prevent some amount of poaching and hiding any schematic changes for a new coaching staff.

There is plenty of debate if that is right or not, but this isn't something that UM is pioneering or a giant outlier on. Personally, I liked it being televised when I didn't live in Missoula, but if it keeps one young stud from getting poached, I'm fine with it not being televised.

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From ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ollege-football-spring-game-changes#cancelled) --
Why, coaches are wondering, should they invite cameras in to showcase their players and schemes for opposing coaches? If a player performs well -- this goes for backups or starters -- it may generate interest from other programs who can offer a better role and/or more money. If a play is executed well, it's something teams can prepare for. There is almost no competitive advantage, and that's before factoring in the possibility of injury.

This isn't a new revelation. That's why these games have been consistently scaled back. They've become glorified practices, and in most cases, coaches believe they are less productive than the other spring practices.

An SEC coach said he records every opponent's televised spring game, and the staff watches them in the summer to observe potential personnel changes with new players, rather than looking for schematic insights, as the games are intentionally kept basic.

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The real reason was to piss off a pair of grumpy old men. It worked.
 
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bigtyme said:
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tourist said:
Does anyone know WHY the scrimmage wasn't televised? From the looks of the 'crowd," only Missoula area residents attended. Kennedy's idea or Haslam's.
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The lack of televising because 'opponents' can see your game plan is ridiculous. Just about every P4/G6 team televises their games. It's not like there is some super secret squirrel SELSU Mud Dawgs type plays happening.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Around the country less and less teams are doing them. I haven't heard Kennedy talk about it, but the general reasons are about not letting other teams get eyes on our young players to help prevent some amount of poaching and hiding any schematic changes for a new coaching staff.

There is plenty of debate if that is right or not, but this isn't something that UM is pioneering or a giant outlier on. Personally, I liked it being televised when I didn't live in Missoula, but if it keeps one young stud from getting poached, I'm fine with it not being televised.

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From ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ollege-football-spring-game-changes#cancelled) --
Why, coaches are wondering, should they invite cameras in to showcase their players and schemes for opposing coaches? If a player performs well -- this goes for backups or starters -- it may generate interest from other programs who can offer a better role and/or more money. If a play is executed well, it's something teams can prepare for. There is almost no competitive advantage, and that's before factoring in the possibility of injury.

This isn't a new revelation. That's why these games have been consistently scaled back. They've become glorified practices, and in most cases, coaches believe they are less productive than the other spring practices.

An SEC coach said he records every opponent's televised spring game, and the staff watches them in the summer to observe potential personnel changes with new players, rather than looking for schematic insights, as the games are intentionally kept basic.

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It's not like people can't go to the Spring games and record the thing on their phones ala the Meatchicken Wolverines coaches.For that matter you don't need to record it in the stands, just put drones in the air.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
It's not like people can't go to the Spring games and record the thing on their phones ala the Meatchicken Wolverines coaches.For that matter you don't need to record it in the stands, just put drones in the air.
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I mean, I'm not saying I know all the right answers, but the user was asking WHY the coaches would do this so I tried to provide a logical framework for possible reasoning.

As to your point, it is true that it would be physically possible for them to do that, does anyone actually think that teams in the Big Sky have the budget and staff to be flying coaches out undercover to record games of opponents while also finishing their own spring camp? MAYBE you could convince me that Idaho or MSU might have a staffer drive over, but even that is a bit of a stretch, in my mind.

If you broadcast it, though, the cost of recording it is just the cost of setting up a camera facing the screen, so almost nothing.

I'm not saying I know all the right answers here, but I was responding to a user who.
 
tourist said:
Does anyone know WHY the scrimmage wasn't televised? From the looks of the 'crowd," only Missoula area residents attended. Kennedy's idea or Haslam's.
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I do not live in Missoula and we made it. I also sat with and saw several others who are not from Missoula. Not sure what “from the looks of the crowd” means? Were you there?
 
No, bigtyme. Elrod gave some possible rationale for not televising the game. Thank you Elrod. Poaching angle is also rational. '...from the looks of the crowd' referenced the picture posted of the East Side of WGS. I've never been to a Spring Scrimmage. I thought it would have been better attended.
No explanation offered, just not televised, shows contempt for the fan base outside of Missoula. They don't matter, right? We'll see is this has any impact on season ticket sales. Pretty proud of the 19,000 or so from last year. Toot the horns and hang the banners! It would be a mistake to take them for granted. The idea that they could take a giant dump on the fan base, yet expect them all to queue up and pay some big money to get in, will be tested this year. How much effort does it take to explain why there would be no televised scrimmage. So much for transparency. STRIKE ONE! on the position coach, er, Head Coach.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
It's not like people can't go to the Spring games and record the thing on their phones ala the Meatchicken Wolverines coaches.For that matter you don't need to record it in the stands, just put drones in the air.
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Southern Utah, Drake, Utah Tech, and Oregon State are probably quaking in their boots thinking Kennedy is up to something, building a juggernaut of a team. Why else would he not televise the spring game? Devious!
 
The spring game hasn’t been televised since covid time. It’s nothing new, and not unique in today’s landscape. Previously it was picked up by a local channel which has the capability and structure without much $ investment. I’m sure the university could produce it with students, but broadcasting or streaming would cost $, especially if they wanted to have it be exclusive. I doubt the juice is worth the squeeze. Considering BK was just hired a couple months ago then I doubt very much he was worried about that decision or it was anywhere high on his priority list. Seems that maintaining players, recruiting new players, as well as filling out his staff, and rebuilding connections in the community have taken up plenty of his time and energy.
 
tourist said:
No, bigtyme. Elrod gave some possible rationale for not televising the game. Thank you Elrod. Poaching angle is also rational. '...from the looks of the crowd' referenced the picture posted of the East Side of WGS. I've never been to a Spring Scrimmage. I thought it would have been better attended.
No explanation offered, just not televised, shows contempt for the fan base outside of Missoula. They don't matter, right? We'll see is this has any impact on season ticket sales. Pretty proud of the 19,000 or so from last year. Toot the horns and hang the banners! It would be a mistake to take them for granted. The idea that they could take a giant dump on the fan base, yet expect them all to queue up and pay some big money to get in, will be tested this year. How much effort does it take to explain why there would be no televised scrimmage. So much for transparency. STRIKE ONE! on the position coach, er, Head Coach.
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With regards to effecting season ticket sales, I would doubt it. The last time the spring game was televised was 2022, and last year was the highest season ticket numbers in Griz history. I am not sure I'd suggest there is a correlation there.

I had to be out of town and miss this game. But I've gone many times in the past and the stadium is usually pretty empty. It really isn't an event that packs that house, in my experience.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
With regards to effecting season ticket sales, I would doubt it. The last time the spring game was televised was 2022, and last year was the highest season ticket numbers in Griz history. I am not sure I'd suggest there is a correlation there.

I had to be out of town and miss this game. But I've gone many times in the past and the stadium is usually pretty empty. It really isn't an event that packs that house, in my experience.
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Seemed better attended than the last several years. To be expected with all the change after the end of the season.
 
Wolf777 said:
The spring game hasn’t been televised since covid time. It’s nothing new, and not unique in today’s landscape. Previously it was picked up by a local channel which has the capability and structure without much $ investment. I’m sure the university could produce it with students, but broadcasting or streaming would cost $, especially if they wanted to have it be exclusive. I doubt the juice is worth the squeeze. Considering BK was just hired a couple months ago then I doubt very much he was worried about that decision or it was anywhere high on his priority list. Seems that maintaining players, recruiting new players, as well as filling out his staff, and rebuilding connections in the community have taken up plenty of his time and energy.
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Tommy Running Rabbit took the time to explain his quitting Griz football. How much time do you think it would take to explain the 'no TV' decision? I would guess five minutes, max. A staffer could do it. Water under the bridge at any rate.
 
tourist said:
Tommy Running Rabbit took the time to explain his quitting Griz football. How much time do you think it would take to explain the 'no TV' decision? I would guess five minutes, max. A staffer could do it. Water under the bridge at any rate.
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Talk about complaining about nothing. By the way, it is because the juice isn't worth the squeeze, especially now with annual settlement payments.
 
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