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Analysis of MSU v. UNM Game on Saturday

Yep, Tommy made a comment about not being able to get the sweat off his hands or the ball early on. He wasn't using it as an excuse, he owned the uncharacteristic mistakes of giving them fourteen points, giving them two scoop and scores. One on a fumble and one on a questionable pass where the ball slipped out of his hands and they ruled it a fumble. As a fan though, I can look at that and see that he did not have any of those issues later in the game when it cooled down, so I'll chalk it up to the slippery hands\ball being a real thing. Would be extremely rare to see something like that out of Tommy Mellott ever again.
There's this new thing I heard about that neutralizes Wet Hand Syndrome. I'm not sure on the spelling, but I think it's called a "towel" or "towell", I think the Swedes invented it in 2019.
 
Was fun to watch when NM would switch in the middle of downs to a compressed O-line formation..

I'm sure Bobby and staff took note.
 
What about the Cat and griz games next weekend, what are your predictions?
What happened to the catz after the last time they beat an FBS team?
Was that when they followed up a big win with a loss to a D2 school?
IIRC, that embarrassing loss came after their prior win vs FBS, and bubz were never really in that game against the D2 school and were getting blown out at halftime. Hopefully Tommy doesn’t get sweaty palms again this week
 
Yep, Tommy made a comment about not being able to get the sweat off his hands or the ball early on. He wasn't using it as an excuse, he owned the uncharacteristic mistakes of giving them fourteen points, giving them two scoop and scores. One on a fumble and one on a questionable pass where the ball slipped out of his hands and they ruled it a fumble. As a fan though, I can look at that and see that he did not have any of those issues later in the game when it cooled down, so I'll chalk it up to the slippery hands\ball being a real thing. Would be extremely rare to see something like that out of Tommy Mellott ever again.
It wasn’t a questionable call. As you said, ball slipped of his hands. And appeared to not even go forward. If your hands are sweaty. Wipe then in your pants or jersey, or get a towel. Rookie mistake?
 
UNM got lucky by even being in that game, with two fluke plays where Tommy gave them 14 points. So UNM scored 17 points on the Cats' defense. That's still way too many and I think many of the mistakes made on defense (blown coverages and Stupid PIs), will get cleaned up. Do you think the Cats rushing attack will be among the best in the country again? Better than the griz? What about the Cat and griz games next weekend, what are your predictions?
Those weren’t fluke plays. They are very good defensive plays. Was the 93 yard run late in game a fluke play?
 
What happened to the catz after the last time they beat an FBS team?
Was that when they followed up a big win with a loss to a D2 school?
IIRC, that embarrassing loss came after their prior win vs FBS, and bubz were never really in that game against the D2 school and were getting blown out at halftime. Hopefully Tommy doesn’t get sweaty palms again this week

I think that's right. It was Cauldron State or something. Beat the Bubs down right on that patchy turf of RHS.
 
Those weren’t fluke plays. They are very good defensive plays. Was the 93 yard run late in game a fluke play?
They are only good defensive plays in the eyes of a Bobfan if the Bobs make said plays. Otherwise, they are flukes due to sweaty hands; a condition that could have never been foreseen by looking at a forecast or standing outside for five seconds. That long run was obviously just an amazing Bobplay with no blown defensive assignments by UNM whatsoever. :rolleyes:
 
I think that's right. It was Cauldron State or something. Beat the Bubs down right on that patchy turf of RHS.
That’s right. Thanks for jogging my memory.

The Cauldron State Witches put a beat down on the bubz. I seem to recall my neighbor saying it was black magic.

Which reminds me of another bubby embarrassment. When was the last time the bubz played like complete shit but still somehow pulled a victory out of their ass? Remember that Weber state game a few years ago when the bubfans put a voodoo hex on the long snapper and he sent like nine snaps into the end zone for safeties? Craziest god damned game ever; bubz should have never won that game either.

I swear succat was saying the same crap about that game too—“it was not the catz worst game, Weber just played worser.”
 
It wasn’t a questionable call. As you said, ball slipped of his hands. And appeared to not even go forward. If your hands are sweaty. Wipe then in your pants or jersey, or get a towel. Rookie mistake?
Well we all have like, our opinions man. I don't think you'll see Tommy giving the opposing team 14 points at the beginning of the game due to mistakes on his part, but we'll see. Now back to my other point, you were wrong on your prediction, but that's OK - I believe you'll do better from here on out. Do you think the Cats will be among the best rushing teams in the FCS? Do you think they'll beat Utah Tech and by how much? I think they'll win by a wide margin. I think the griz will win too, but not by nearly as much.
 
That’s right. Thanks for jogging my memory.

The Cauldron State Witches put a beat down on the bubz. I seem to recall my neighbor saying it was black magic.

Which reminds me of another bubby embarrassment. When was the last time the bubz played like complete shit but still somehow pulled a victory out of their ass? Remember that Weber state game a few years ago when the bubfans put a voodoo hex on the long snapper and he sent like nine snaps into the end zone for safeties? Craziest god damned game ever; bubz should have never won that game either.

I swear succat was saying the same crap about that game too—“it was not the catz worst game, Weber just played worser.”
I remember the Weber game for sure. I was at an F1 race in Austin with my wife. Couldn't watch but got eGriz to work inside the stadium and had no idea what was going on. I thought the posts were all referencing the same bad snap. I hadn't considered that there were several. I remember the Boblogic afterward saying "We were going to get the ball back anyway because they were punting, so it didn't really matter" without realizing they got 8 points off of safeties and won by 5.

BTW, did we ever get the foam hats on The Bobs from Office Space? I think we did but can't recall.
 
Well we all have like, our opinions man. I don't think you'll see Tommy giving the opposing team 14 points at the beginning of the game due to mistakes on his part, but we'll see. Now back to my other point, you were wrong on your prediction, but that's OK - I believe you'll do better from here on out. Do you think the Cats will be among the best rushing teams in the FCS? Do you think they'll beat Utah Tech and by how much? I think they'll win by a wide margin. I think the griz will win too, but not by nearly as much.
Better hope for no rain/snow. Those wet hands will make it crazy tough. He was the first QB ever to play in that kind of heat and only fumble twice. I'd hang another banner for that one.
 
My observations from cats game:
- every cat fan and betting site overestimated them beating the hell out of quite literally one of the worst FBS teams in existence
- Tommy still struggles to throw the ball and when under pressure really struggles
- normally he runs out of that but it seems the coaches are limiting his runs and his plus-1 run game even and trying to make him a pocket passer….he will never be a great pocket passer and this is a bad strategy by cats coaches
- the cats still rushed the ball successfully and it’s definitely their bread and butter (jones and scottre are studs)
- the O line got worked many plays from the defense and more pressure on Tommy than I think most were expecting (I did hear some normal OL were injured so this will probably get better)
- the o line for NM literally made Grebe and others invisible. I don’t think he had one pressure even? Hope the Griz took notes there.
- the cats secondary is abysmal so far
- NM did way more to lose that game than the cats did to win it
- at the end of the day, it’s a FBS win for a FCS team and that is always a good win and good for our conference
- I think the cats have a lot to clean up….im sure they will do so
 
My observations from cats game:
- every cat fan and betting site overestimated them beating the hell out of quite literally one of the worst FBS teams in existence
- Tommy still struggles to throw the ball and when under pressure really struggles
- normally he runs out of that but it seems the coaches are limiting his runs and his plus-1 run game even and trying to make him a pocket passer….he will never be a great pocket passer and this is a bad strategy by cats coaches
- the cats still rushed the ball successfully and it’s definitely their bread and butter (jones and scottre are studs)
- the O line got worked many plays from the defense and more pressure on Tommy than I think most were expecting (I did hear some normal OL were injured so this will probably get better)
- the o line for NM literally made Grebe and others invisible. I don’t think he had one pressure even? Hope the Griz took notes there.
- the cats secondary is abysmal so far
- NM did way more to lose that game than the cats did to win it
- at the end of the day, it’s a FBS win for a FCS team and that is always a good win and good for our conference
- I think the cats have a lot to clean up….im sure they will do so
I was one Cat fan who said the betting line is crazy. I said in two posts on here that first games are usually decided by mistakes. I stated that whatever team made the least mistakes would win. The Cats made a lot of mistakes. Especially giving up the two TDs. However, UNM made more big mistakes down the stretch. Yes, the Cats have a lot to clean up this week. I think by the time they go into BSC play, they will be fine.
 
My observations from cats game:
- every cat fan and betting site overestimated them beating the hell out of quite literally one of the worst FBS teams in existence
- Tommy still struggles to throw the ball and when under pressure really struggles
- normally he runs out of that but it seems the coaches are limiting his runs and his plus-1 run game even and trying to make him a pocket passer….he will never be a great pocket passer and this is a bad strategy by cats coaches
- the cats still rushed the ball successfully and it’s definitely their bread and butter (jones and scottre are studs)
- the O line got worked many plays from the defense and more pressure on Tommy than I think most were expecting (I did hear some normal OL were injured so this will probably get better)
- the o line for NM literally made Grebe and others invisible. I don’t think he had one pressure even? Hope the Griz took notes there.
- the cats secondary is abysmal so far
- NM did way more to lose that game than the cats did to win it
- at the end of the day, it’s a FBS win for a FCS team and that is always a good win and good for our conference
- I think the cats have a lot to clean up….im sure they will do so
Did you really just post this? I'm assuming you didn't watch the fourth quarter. He had several incredible throws, under incredible pressure.
 
Did you really just post this? I'm assuming you didn't watch the fourth quarter. He had several incredible throws, under incredible pressure.
He had like 2. And way more awful throws when under pressure. Way more. And I have a ton of Cats friends who agree with me completely as they don’t have their head up Tommy’s ass or their own.
 
He had like 2. And way more awful throws when under pressure. Way more. And I have a ton of Cats friends who agree with me completely as they don’t have their head up Tommy’s ass or their own.
Poor doesn't understand football. He proves it almost every time he posts on egriz. The season is young, but I don't see anything for Cat fans to be excited about yet. I assume most other teams are not going to give up 225-250 yards up the middle on essentially the same play. The holes were big (and presumably well-blocked), but I noticed on almost every replay that I watched, that there had been one or more mistakes made by D players and there were sometimes players in position or almost in position to make the plays, but they didn't. Many times they weren't even blocked, but were inexplicably a half step away from making the tackle or at least slowing down the runner. That sometimes happens, but it happened way too often to UNM.
 
He had like 2. And way more awful throws when under pressure. Way more. And I have a ton of Cats friends who agree with me completely as they don’t have their head up Tommy’s ass or their own.
Final drive: 6 for 9 passing, 81 yards. Of the three incompletions, one looked to be right on the money, but it was tipped by a D lineman that made a great play. Another pass was Ty running the wrong route. The last incompletion, was the only "bad" pass Tommy threw on the drive, pass to Taco too low, but at least zero chance of it getting picked. Tommy throws better under pressure - and whatever friends say he's worse under pressure are either dumb, or yanking your chain. See for yourself, final drive starts at: 2:18:40

 
Final drive: 6 for 9 passing, 81 yards. Of the three incompletions, one looked to be right on the money, but it was tipped by a D lineman that made a great play. Another pass was Ty running the wrong route. The last incompletion, was the only "bad" pass Tommy threw on the drive, pass to Taco too low, but at least zero chance of it getting picked. Tommy throws better under pressure - and whatever friends say he's worse under pressure are either dumb, or yanking your chain. See for yourself, final drive starts at: 2:18:40

I’d rather watch this
 
Final drive: 6 for 9 passing, 81 yards. Of the three incompletions, one looked to be right on the money, but it was tipped by a D lineman that made a great play. Another pass was Ty running the wrong route. The last incompletion, was the only "bad" pass Tommy threw on the drive, pass to Taco too low, but at least zero chance of it getting picked. Tommy throws better under pressure - and whatever friends say he's worse under pressure are either dumb, or yanking your chain. See for yourself, final drive starts at: 2:18:40

Cats were lucky the tipped pass, which was tipped twice, wasn't picked off. On the longest completion, 2 defenders jumped the short receiver and another stood and watched as the 2d receiver ran by him and became wide open. What a screw up by the 3d defender. Inexplicable. Pass was on the money.

"pass incomplete short left to Alexander,Lonyatta thrown to MSU41 broken up by Avinger,Noah.
Taylor,Bryson injured on the play"

"pass incomplete short left to Dowler,Taco thrown to UNM11 broken up by Avinger,Noah QB hurried by Tuitele,Moso’oipala."

Those two passes and the play by play are not consistent with what you said.

Three passes were to the sideline for 5, 5 and 6. Another short pass went for 12. A pass over the middle for 12. Two incomplete passes were short passes. 7 passes were to the short left side. The 37 yard completion.
 
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