Monymony
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NDSU wasn’t some average team… if it wasn’t for a crazy no call against the gris they would’ve been in the national championship.
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Let's see your preseason polls
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mthoopsfan
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Yes, and they were unseeded. And that’s what I said. Why will Cats be good and better than last year. Don’t bother telling us irrelevant things or things we already know.
garizzalies
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Spot on!
I am so sick of hearing from delusional bubcatz fans that somehow the bubs were a better team than Idaho even though they lost the head-to-head. It’s crazy talk.
mthoopsfan
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The Griz should have won the game before OT. NDSU was fortunate to get to OT. UM didn’t win on a crazy no-call. They won on a great play.
The CATS were a good to great team last year, but looking at the whole season I would agree it was disappointing - and calling them GREAT might be a stretch. All that said, the four losses were to the four best teams in the country... and three of those games were nail biters that could have gone either way. Specifically, the early season game against hands down the clear cut best team in the country... AT their place, when both teams were relatively healthy... the Cats came within a RCH of taking them down, and some fans think the CATS actually should have won if not a questionable call on the TD catch at the end.
If anyone wants to bet me $$ that the Cats won't finish the regular season 8-4 or better, I'll gladly take that bet.
If anyone wants to bet me $$ that the Cats won't finish the regular season 8-4 or better, I'll gladly take that bet.
With that schedule?? They'd certainly better, or it'll be time to bring back Coach Ron "Art of Winning .500 Ball" Ash.
Monymony
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I think new OC and DC will switch things up enough that will be less predictable. We lost some talent but easily replaced it and continued to develop everyone else.
Backups better than the starters. A bubcat staple.
Monymony
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Where did I say that? I will say the OL and DL twos are good but definitely not as good as starters.
garizzalies
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HelenaHandBasket
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None of this is a rebuttal to the actual fact that they were unseeded.
"easily replaced" certainly indicates that the backups are at least as good as the starters. It's okay; we hear it from you guys every year. Certainly no surprises there.
You're not being serious are you? What crazy no call? PI on the two point play?
I can't wait for this answer. Definitely going to display lack of football knowledge if that's his claim.
mthoopsfan
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4 or more all conf players will be easily replaced, including 3 who went to FBS?
mthoopsfan
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Haha. Name one person who thinks Cats were great team last season.
8-4. Wow, that is really showing some confidence in your team. Laughable.
smarsh
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you are correct on the no call. because there was literally nothing to call.
This post is spot on. Vigen has a lot to prove this year.
I'll bite. Mine is more a repudiation of the rest of the Big Sky in this upcoming year. Every team has question marks, of course, but I feel like the Griz have overall far less. And behind them, the Cats have the least question marks for me. We have every reason to believe their offensive line will be really strong again, Mellott will only be better with another year (even if I still think he is poorly served as a QB in their system), and they have shown that they can grind through the vast majority of the conference. They lose some players, but the teams I ranked below them lost more.
I wouldn't be mad at anyone for putting Davis ahead of the Cats. Idaho was clearly the better team last year, but they lost their offense to the draft and the portal. They also seem to have some real campus culture problems if the players are feeling like they are being singled out racially and are being targeted. Their athletic department has been under a lot of fire, particularly with the Volleyball situation, and there seems to be a lot of discontent.
Sac is intriguing, but I don't have reason to jump them above the Cats.
Weber has tons of questions. EWU has been in sharp decline, and I have no reason to believe that changes.
I am higher on Hawkins and ISU than most people are, but I don't see them jumping to the top tier of the conference this year that the Griz and MSU have been in.
The rest is kind of a pu pu platter that we will see shake out.
I wasn't necessarily saying I have reason to believe the Cats are as good or better than last year. I just am not sure I see anyone else in the Big Sky who has gotten better, and Idaho took a big step back.
Just my thoughts. Its pre-season. We have a long way to go, and I would not be entirely shocked if the Cats ended up just above a .500 team this year, either. I'm very curious if their coordinators were holding them back, or if the HC and talent just aren't up to the task.
Frankly, a 9-3 regular season will be bad news. And if that (or worse) comes to fruition, Vigen will find redemption only in a miracle trip to the semifinals or beyond.
