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Vim's 2018 Montana High School Football Recruiting List

I said on Bobcatnation that Missoula Loyola product Joe McElroy has everything you want in a high school offensive line prospect. I will say on Egriz today that Nick Germer has everything you want in a high school wide receiver prospect. Runs good routes, a natural pass catcher, and a willing blocker on the outside.
 
Fathergriz said:
I'm most interested in seeing what Aaron White of Shelby does. Grew up a griz fan both cats and griz have contacted him. His dad and assistant bobcat coach BJ Robertson know each other well. Or will he follow his brother Chase's path and try out Rocky? Going to s fun one to keep track of.
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Wasn't Chase White, I'm assuming the one referred to from Shelby as Aaron White's brother/cousin?, a red-shirt with the Griz football team for a year before he transferred to Rocky Mountain?
 
Bjorn Bjornstein said:
Colter_Nuanez56 said:
There's always the great debate over who won the in-state recruiting battle. One thing I ask every single in-state commit for either the Griz or the Bobcats is who they had offers from, who they grew up rooting for and if the school they did not choose ever had a chance. I would say 7 out of 10 in-state kids were going to go to one school or the other if offered by both, so the recruiting "battles" aren't fierce as a great many might think.

Joe McElroy from Missoula Loyola wants to go into pre-nursing, grew up a lifelong Bobcat fan who's grandfather went to MSU and was going to go to Montana State if he did not get an athletic scholarship no matter what. He did not have an offer from Montana when he committed to MSU earlier this week. His story:

Missoula Loyola lineman McElroy commits to MSU
http://skylinesportsmt.com/mcelroy-commits/
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it'd be great if this was actually a story about a Griz recruit and yes, I'm a subscriber :( but not for much longer...
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Germer follows father’s footsteps, commits to Griz
http://skylinesportsmt.com/germer-follows-fathers-footsteps-commits-to-griz/
 
I've always found vims lists to display hard work and devotion to giving readers information about young talent. Of course you may not agree with them at all times, but in my experience vim is willing to listen if you give a good argument, and we have since agreed to share information and thoughts about scouting. And that's all you could ask for, someone who is willing to debate and listen about young talent in our great state.
 
Vims lists have always displayed hard work and dedication to informing the readers of the young talent of Montana. In my experience with Vim, we were able to debate and he was very willing to listen to different opinions of others. We may not see eye to eye with some things, but since then we have agreed to talk to each other about talent and film and what we are seeing. Some may not agree with his evaluations, and that is completely okay, but what makes better is Vim is willing to debate and talk about it. And that is all anyone can ask for, people who are willing to debate the great talent of our great state!
 
My mistake, but I think I made my point clear. Vim works hard, if you don't agree with him then that's nothing new, but you have to respect the hard work
 
Taken from NFL Network:

THE IMPERFECT SCIENCE OF SCOUTING PLAYERS

If the (paid) scouts themselves are to be believed, they are the only human beings who are allowed to weigh-in on who's good at football and who's bad. Their fancy lingo, that's how they throw us off you see. They talk "hip-flexation" and this type of thing, and that's how they try to throw the rest of the world off. But not Egrizzers. We're onto those guys. How many whiffs do the scouts get? Let's count the ways? Tony Romo, everybody was just talking about him a week or two ago as a borderline 'Hall of Famer'. He was undrafted. 'Hall of Famer' Kurt Warner was undrafted. Who's the best QB of all-time? (Tom Brady) He was drafted in the sixth round. Dak Prescott, how late did he go last year? By the way, there is also Jamarcus Russell on the other side. What gives scouts?

Scouting is a flawed process. Why? Because it's humans evaluating humans. Both sides are flawed, so let's start there. 10 year study, scouting success rate in the NFL: 30% become starters, 70% do not become starters over a 4 year period. (1st round 75%, 50% 2nd round, 33% 3rd round, 25% 4th round, 20% 5th round, 9% 6 round, 9% 7th round become starters.)

SCOUTING IS AN INEXACT SCIENCE: Anybody that says they're an expert, can be shown they've made plenty of mistakes. It's an educated guess, that's all it is. So scout on!
 
1. Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 5'9", 160 lbs. - WR/DB - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/603572/583 ... 2ef02daf36
Outstanding talent. Smaller in size, but plays big
2. Drew Turner (Kalispell Glacier) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3753115/583 ... 09d8bd2af8
Power. Surprising speed. Slow cuts at times. Good ball carrier vision
3. Nolan Askelson (Billings Senior) - 6'2", 205 lbs. - LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4483082/583 ... 2450007e2a
Aggressive. Loves contact. Flows well to the ball on defense.
4. Seth Schneider (Helena Capital) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB/LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5362156/583 ... 282c438bb7
Good runner, vision. Great tackler. The best tackler in class
5. .) Nick Germer (Missoula Sentinel) - 6'2", 175 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4041596/nick-germer/videos
Good speed, sure hands. Deep threat. One cut and go
6. Karson Wheat (Deer Lodge) - 6'2", 275 lbs. - OL/DT - http://www.hudl.com/profile/6005971/karson-wheat/videos
Best interior d line. Dominant. Destructive. Always near the ball.
7. Carson Shuman (Helena Capital) 6'4", 275 lbs. - OL - https://www.hudl.com/profile/5362150/ca ... man/videos
Mauler. Good feet. Slow with pulling, but quick off the ball
8. Easton Hatfield (Townsend) - 6'4", 180 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6525735/586 ... 21bc687e93
Sure handed. Not flashy speed but a possession WR, route runner.
9. Joseph McElroy (Missoula Loyola) - 6'4", 240 lbs. - OL/DT - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4210495/58 ... 2c088b709e
Good speed for his size. One and done blocker though.
10. Kevin Boes (Great Falls High) - 6'3", 185 lbs. - QB - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4508918/kevin-boes/videos
Eyes always down field. Runner, but semi comfortable in pocket.

I posted this on Bobcatnation a while ago, after Vim and I disagreed on some of his rankings. This is my top10 and reason why. Always a good thing to see multiple peoples opinions, plus always fun to talk about football! Take it as you will, but I'm not a biased scouter, I am simply a fan of football in Montana!
 
HowardRoss280 said:
1. Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 5'9", 160 lbs. - WR/DB - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/603572/583 ... 2ef02daf36
Outstanding talent. Smaller in size, but plays big
2. Drew Turner (Kalispell Glacier) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3753115/583 ... 09d8bd2af8
Power. Surprising speed. Slow cuts at times. Good ball carrier vision
3. Nolan Askelson (Billings Senior) - 6'2", 205 lbs. - LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4483082/583 ... 2450007e2a
Aggressive. Loves contact. Flows well to the ball on defense.
4. Seth Schneider (Helena Capital) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB/LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5362156/583 ... 282c438bb7
Good runner, vision. Great tackler. The best tackler in class
5. .) Nick Germer (Missoula Sentinel) - 6'2", 175 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4041596/nick-germer/videos
Good speed, sure hands. Deep threat. One cut and go
6. Karson Wheat (Deer Lodge) - 6'2", 275 lbs. - OL/DT - http://www.hudl.com/profile/6005971/karson-wheat/videos
Best interior d line. Dominant. Destructive. Always near the ball.
7. Carson Shuman (Helena Capital) 6'4", 275 lbs. - OL - https://www.hudl.com/profile/5362150/ca ... man/videos
Mauler. Good feet. Slow with pulling, but quick off the ball
8. Easton Hatfield (Townsend) - 6'4", 180 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6525735/586 ... 21bc687e93
Sure handed. Not flashy speed but a possession WR, route runner.
9. Joseph McElroy (Missoula Loyola) - 6'4", 240 lbs. - OL/DT - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4210495/58 ... 2c088b709e
Good speed for his size. One and done blocker though.
10. Kevin Boes (Great Falls High) - 6'3", 185 lbs. - QB - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4508918/kevin-boes/videos
Eyes always down field. Runner, but semi comfortable in pocket.

I posted this on Bobcatnation a while ago, after Vim and I disagreed on some of his rankings. This is my top10 and reason why. Always a good thing to see multiple peoples opinions, plus always fun to talk about football! Take it as you will, but I'm not a biased scouter, I am simply a fan of football in Montana!
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Still no Conor Quick huh? I've even given you time to think about this. :|
 
VimSince03 said:
HowardRoss280 said:
1. Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 5'9", 160 lbs. - WR/DB - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/603572/583 ... 2ef02daf36
Outstanding talent. Smaller in size, but plays big
2. Drew Turner (Kalispell Glacier) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3753115/583 ... 09d8bd2af8
Power. Surprising speed. Slow cuts at times. Good ball carrier vision
3. Nolan Askelson (Billings Senior) - 6'2", 205 lbs. - LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4483082/583 ... 2450007e2a
Aggressive. Loves contact. Flows well to the ball on defense.
4. Seth Schneider (Helena Capital) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB/LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5362156/583 ... 282c438bb7
Good runner, vision. Great tackler. The best tackler in class
5. .) Nick Germer (Missoula Sentinel) - 6'2", 175 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4041596/nick-germer/videos
Good speed, sure hands. Deep threat. One cut and go
6. Karson Wheat (Deer Lodge) - 6'2", 275 lbs. - OL/DT - http://www.hudl.com/profile/6005971/karson-wheat/videos
Best interior d line. Dominant. Destructive. Always near the ball.
7. Carson Shuman (Helena Capital) 6'4", 275 lbs. - OL - https://www.hudl.com/profile/5362150/ca ... man/videos
Mauler. Good feet. Slow with pulling, but quick off the ball
8. Easton Hatfield (Townsend) - 6'4", 180 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6525735/586 ... 21bc687e93
Sure handed. Not flashy speed but a possession WR, route runner.
9. Joseph McElroy (Missoula Loyola) - 6'4", 240 lbs. - OL/DT - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4210495/58 ... 2c088b709e
Good speed for his size. One and done blocker though.
10. Kevin Boes (Great Falls High) - 6'3", 185 lbs. - QB - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4508918/kevin-boes/videos
Eyes always down field. Runner, but semi comfortable in pocket.

I posted this on Bobcatnation a while ago, after Vim and I disagreed on some of his rankings. This is my top10 and reason why. Always a good thing to see multiple peoples opinions, plus always fun to talk about football! Take it as you will, but I'm not a biased scouter, I am simply a fan of football in Montana!
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Still no Conor Quick huh? I've even given you time to think about this. :|
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Quick is a great player no doubt, and I took your word and dove deeper into his film. He has grown on me a little, as of now I have him just outside the 10 though, an 11 or 12 spot.
 
HowardRoss280 said:
VimSince03 said:
HowardRoss280 said:
1. Gabe Sulser (Billings Senior) - 5'9", 160 lbs. - WR/DB - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/603572/583 ... 2ef02daf36
Outstanding talent. Smaller in size, but plays big
2. Drew Turner (Kalispell Glacier) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/3753115/583 ... 09d8bd2af8
Power. Surprising speed. Slow cuts at times. Good ball carrier vision
3. Nolan Askelson (Billings Senior) - 6'2", 205 lbs. - LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/4483082/583 ... 2450007e2a
Aggressive. Loves contact. Flows well to the ball on defense.
4. Seth Schneider (Helena Capital) - 6'0", 205 lbs. - RB/LB - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/5362156/583 ... 282c438bb7
Good runner, vision. Great tackler. The best tackler in class
5. .) Nick Germer (Missoula Sentinel) - 6'2", 175 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4041596/nick-germer/videos
Good speed, sure hands. Deep threat. One cut and go
6. Karson Wheat (Deer Lodge) - 6'2", 275 lbs. - OL/DT - http://www.hudl.com/profile/6005971/karson-wheat/videos
Best interior d line. Dominant. Destructive. Always near the ball.
7. Carson Shuman (Helena Capital) 6'4", 275 lbs. - OL - https://www.hudl.com/profile/5362150/ca ... man/videos
Mauler. Good feet. Slow with pulling, but quick off the ball
8. Easton Hatfield (Townsend) - 6'4", 180 lbs. - WR - http://www.hudl.com/video/3/6525735/586 ... 21bc687e93
Sure handed. Not flashy speed but a possession WR, route runner.
9. Joseph McElroy (Missoula Loyola) - 6'4", 240 lbs. - OL/DT - https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4210495/58 ... 2c088b709e
Good speed for his size. One and done blocker though.
10. Kevin Boes (Great Falls High) - 6'3", 185 lbs. - QB - http://www.hudl.com/profile/4508918/kevin-boes/videos
Eyes always down field. Runner, but semi comfortable in pocket.

I posted this on Bobcatnation a while ago, after Vim and I disagreed on some of his rankings. This is my top10 and reason why. Always a good thing to see multiple peoples opinions, plus always fun to talk about football! Take it as you will, but I'm not a biased scouter, I am simply a fan of football in Montana!
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Still no Conor Quick huh? I've even given you time to think about this. :|
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Quick is a great player no doubt, and I took your word and dove deeper into his film. He has grown on me a little, as of now I have him just outside the 10 though, an 11 or 12 spot.
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:thumb:
 
Vim, saw somewhere suslers top 4 in no particular order was Montana, msu, ndsu and und. If you were to guess who do you got first to last as favorites.thanks.
 
braves84 said:
Vim, saw somewhere suslers top 4 in no particular order was Montana, msu, ndsu and und. If you were to guess who do you got first to last as favorites.thanks.
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He will likely be a Griz if he doesn't get a FBS offer from a Pac-12 school like UW or Wazzu.
 
VimSince03 said:
braves84 said:
Vim, saw somewhere suslers top 4 in no particular order was Montana, msu, ndsu and und. If you were to guess who do you got first to last as favorites.thanks.
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He will likely be a Griz if he doesn't get a FBS offer from a Pac-12 school like UW or Wazzu.
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I agree with this but one of his good buds did just commit MSU in LB Nolan Askelson so that may help.


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