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What has Donald Trump done since he has been in office

1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch

2.59 missiles dropped in Syria.

3.He took us out of TPP

4.Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)

5.Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125.6

6.Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.

7.Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.

8.Bids for border wall are well underway.

9.Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.

10.Keystone pipeline approved.

11.NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%

12.Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.

13.Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.

14.More than 600,000. Jobs created

15. Median household income at a 7 year high.

16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.

17. China agreed to American import of beef.

18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.

19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining.

20. MOAB for ISIS

21. Travel ban reinstated.

22. Executive order for religious freedom.

23. Jump started NASA

24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.

25. Targeting of MS13 gangs

26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.

27. Signed legislative 41 bills to date ( I didn't even know that least the fake media tell us)

28. Created a commission on child trafficking

29. Created a commission on voter fraud

30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.

32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.

33. Historic Black College University initiative

34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act

35. Created an office or illegal immigrant crime victims.

36. Reversed Dodd-Frank

37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning

38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.

39. End of DAPA program.

40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.

42. Encouraged country to once again 'Buy American and hire American .

43. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first.

44.Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.

45. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.

46 $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...

47. Denied FBI a new building.

48. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.

49. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.

50. Dept of treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017(2nd largest in history.)

51. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.

52. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

53. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth.

55. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.

56. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated March 15 2017, to trim the fat. restructure and improve efficacy of their branch. (Observe the push back, the leaks, & the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)

57. No Fed Funds to Sanctuary Cities.

58. Replaced swamp rhino Priebus with John Kelley, 45 year career Marine for Chief of Staff

59. Lastly, Refused his Presidential Pay Check, donated it to Veterans issues.
 
reinell30 said:
What has Donald Trump done since he has been in office

1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch

2.59 missiles dropped in Syria.

3.He took us out of TPP

4.Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)

5.Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125.6

6.Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.

7.Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.

8.Bids for border wall are well underway.

9.Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.

10.Keystone pipeline approved.

11.NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%

12.Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.

13.Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.

14.More than 600,000. Jobs created

15. Median household income at a 7 year high.

16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.

17. China agreed to American import of beef.

18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.

19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining.

20. MOAB for ISIS

21. Travel ban reinstated.

22. Executive order for religious freedom.

23. Jump started NASA

24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.

25. Targeting of MS13 gangs

26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.

27. Signed legislative 41 bills to date ( I didn't even know that least the fake media tell us)

28. Created a commission on child trafficking

29. Created a commission on voter fraud

30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.

32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.

33. Historic Black College University initiative

34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act

35. Created an office or illegal immigrant crime victims.

36. Reversed Dodd-Frank

37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning

38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.

39. End of DAPA program.

40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.

42. Encouraged country to once again 'Buy American and hire American .

43. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first.

44.Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.

45. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.

46 $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...

47. Denied FBI a new building.

48. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.

49. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.

50. Dept of treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017(2nd largest in history.)

51. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.

52. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

53. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth.

55. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.

56. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated March 15 2017, to trim the fat. restructure and improve efficacy of their branch. (Observe the push back, the leaks, & the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)

57. No Fed Funds to Sanctuary Cities.

58. Replaced swamp rhino Priebus with John Kelley, 45 year career Marine for Chief of Staff

59. Lastly, Refused his Presidential Pay Check, donated it to Veterans issues.

Wow ... half of those are bullshit and the other half are things he should be ashamed of.
 
Fat Bruno said:
reinell30 said:
What has Donald Trump done since he has been in office

1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch

2.59 missiles dropped in Syria.

3.He took us out of TPP

4.Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)

5.Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125.6

6.Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.

7.Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.

8.Bids for border wall are well underway.

9.Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.

10.Keystone pipeline approved.

11.NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%

12.Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.

13.Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.

14.More than 600,000. Jobs created

15. Median household income at a 7 year high.

16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.

17. China agreed to American import of beef.

18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.

19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining.

20. MOAB for ISIS

21. Travel ban reinstated.

22. Executive order for religious freedom.

23. Jump started NASA

24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.

25. Targeting of MS13 gangs

26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.

27. Signed legislative 41 bills to date ( I didn't even know that least the fake media tell us)

28. Created a commission on child trafficking

29. Created a commission on voter fraud

30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.

32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.

33. Historic Black College University initiative

34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act

35. Created an office or illegal immigrant crime victims.

36. Reversed Dodd-Frank

37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning

38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.

39. End of DAPA program.

40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.

42. Encouraged country to once again 'Buy American and hire American .

43. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first.

44.Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.

45. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.

46 $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...

47. Denied FBI a new building.

48. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.

49. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.

50. Dept of treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017(2nd largest in history.)

51. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.

52. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

53. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth.

55. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.

56. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated March 15 2017, to trim the fat. restructure and improve efficacy of their branch. (Observe the push back, the leaks, & the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)

57. No Fed Funds to Sanctuary Cities.

58. Replaced swamp rhino Priebus with John Kelley, 45 year career Marine for Chief of Staff

59. Lastly, Refused his Presidential Pay Check, donated it to Veterans issues.

Wow ... half of those are bullshit and the other half are things he should be ashamed of.

Canned response almost. Would have lost money on your response though, I'd a bet you would have said they are all BS. You're slipping...
 
Haha ... you haven't said anything that wasn't canned at the cheap Trump cannery -- located next to Trump University -- since you first started upchucking the kool ade. You're a perfect case history of the kind of geniuses who love this evil scum sucker.
 
Since we're into lists:

CNN’s Brooke Baldwin on Friday had a priceless reaction to the news that Donald Trump has fired chief White House strategist Steve Bannon, reading headlines from the president’s “chaotic four weeks” that were so long she had to stop and drink a cup of water.

“Steve Bannon has been fired,” Baldwin said. “It has been a chaotic four weeks, even by these White House standards, so let’s just all take a moment just to remind you what has happened, incredibly significant events, one after the other.”

“So, in no particular order,” she began. “President Trump … fires his chief strategist, fires his chief of staff, hires a new one, hires a new communications director, fires him, hires a new one, his fourth in seven months, publicly shames his attorney general multiple times, loses a health care bill, publicly shames the three republicans who voted against it multiple times, bans transgender individuals from the military without telling the military, ticks off the Boy Scouts, makes up a phone call with said Scouts, makes up another phone call with the president of Mexico, thanks Vladimir Putin for expelling Americans, hundreds of them, takes days to sign a bipartisan sanctions bill and then blasts Congress for making him sign it, condemns leaks but then says he likes the leaks because it shows people love him.”

“Hold on a second, sorry,” she said, smirking as she reached for a cup of water. “This is long.”

She then continued:

“Encourages police to be rough with suspects during arrests, publicly shames the Republican leader he needs to get anything done—multiple times—embraces an unpassable immigration plan that sparks a debate about the Statue of Liberty and the definition of ‘cosmopolitan.’ He threatens North Korea with nuclear war, tells Guam it will help tourism, then his own chief strategist calls his bluff and says, no, there’s no military option in North Korea, threatens Venezuela with a military option, after a Nazi rally in which someone was murdered, the president blames both sides. After backlash, cleans it up, denounces those white supremacists, but then hours later erases all of it and makes everything worse by again blaming both sides, saying there were fine people there. No, they weren’t. They were Nazis.”
“Suggests there’s no difference between George Washington and Robert E. Lee,” she added. “Publicly shames CEOs who abandon him, then loses two of his entire jobs councils after execs jump ship, considers a pardon for, of all people, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, all the way facing accusations of racism, by the way. Plugs his winery in Virginia when asked if he will, as president, visit Charlottesville, tells the world to study a lie during a terror attack, and gets condemnations from Democrats, Republicans, former presidents, world leaders, allies, his own staff, and the Pope.”
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432826/donald-trumps-scandals-and-business-failures-roundup

From the right wing National Review
The Definitive Roundup of Trump’s Scandals and Business Failures


Given their number and scale, it can be difficult to keep track of all of Donald Trump’s many scandals and debacles. And so, for those whose heads are still spinning, here is a comprehensive roundup of the man’s disastrous record:

1973: The Department of Justice’s racial-bias case against Trump’s real-estate company

1983–1985: New Jersey Generals, a failed U.S. Football League team

1988–1992: Trump Airlines

Trump defaulted on his loans in 1990. As owner, he invested in flashy technology and his signature luxury décor for the airplanes, while disregarding the real needs of his customers and falling victim to the high price of jet fuel during the first Iraq War. Trump Airlines ceased operation in April 1992.

1989–1990: Trump: The Game (board game) (revived in 2005)

Milton Bradley joined Trump to release “Trump: The Game.” Players’ goal is to make the best real-estate deals. The game undersold in its first year, but Trump justified its rerelease 15 years later with the success of the Trump-helmed The Apprentice reality-TV show.

1990: Failure to pay contractors for Taj Mahal hotel and casino

While Trump spent $1 million every week on extravagant personal expenses, he cheated builders out of more than $60 million for work on his Atlantic City, N.J., property. The team of construction firms and suppliers that built the Taj Mahal hotel and casino struggled to overcome their losses, with some firms approaching bankruptcy: Marty Rosenberg, then–vice president of Atlantic Plate Glass, said Trump owed his company about $1.5 million in late payments for a glass job on the hotel.

1991: Trump Plaza’s violation of anti-discrimination laws in order to please Trump’s Mafia-connected pal

Robert LiButti, a famous horse breeder, was banned from New Jersey casinos after his connection to Mafia boss John Gotti was revealed. LiButti’s daughter Edith Creamer said her father and Trump had been comrades: gambling buddies, flying together in Trump’s helicopter, and partying on his yacht. New Jersey state regulators discovered their relationship while investigating allegations by nine Trump Plaza employees that the hotel had booted blacks and women from craps tables after LiButti complained about them. Trump Plaza was fined $200,000 for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Trump claimed he barely knew LiButti, but Creamer maintained that she flew in Trump’s helicopter and partied on his yacht with him and her father.

1991, 1992, 2004, and 2009: Trump’s Four bankruptcies

First bankruptcy: Banks that had financed Trump’s real-estate investments bailed him out with $65 million in additional loans and credit. Nevertheless, nine months later, with Trump nearly $4 billion in debt, he filed for bankruptcy for his Taj Mahal casino.

Second bankruptcy: Trump was personally leveraged to almost $1 billion.

Third bankruptcy: Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy. Trump paid $72 million out of pocket.

Fourth bankruptcy: The same company, renamed Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc., filed for bankruptcy again.

RELATED: Trump, Lies, and Bankruptcy

1977–1992, 1992–1999: Trump’s two divorces and adultery

Trump’s marriage to Ivana Zelníčková ended after his affair with actress Marla Maples was discovered. He then married Maples, and divorced her seven years later, before marrying current wife Melania in 2005. Trump has also repeatedly bragged about sleeping with married women.

2005–2011: Trump University scam

The New York lawsuit alone represents 5,000 victims, and there are more.

Prospective students were lured by a free seminar, which was really the first part of a bait-and-switch scheme that led to attendees’ being pressured into increasingly expensive seminars, starting with a three-day, $1,495 seminar and culminating with a $35,000 “Gold Elite” program.

RELATED: Yes, Trump University Was a Massive Scam

Trump University advertised Trump’s “handpicked” instructors, access to hard-money lenders, and an improved credit score. These advertisements proved false.

And not a single instructor was “handpicked” by Trump; many came from non–real estate backgrounds, and some were downright shady — including motivational speakers and a felon. The “school” didn’t even craft a curriculum.

2006: Trump sued a journalist for libel and lost, badly

Years before Trump vowed on the campaign trail to “open up libel” laws in order make it easier for him to sue news outlets, he tried invoking the reigning libel laws to sue a journalist for questioning his net worth. He went to court with Timothy L. O’Brien, then a business reporter at the New York Times. In 2005, O’Brien used estimates from people knowledgeable about Trump’s finances to argue Trump was worth between $150 million and $250 million — much less than the $6 billion Trump purported to be worth at the time.

RELATED: The Litigious — and Bullying — Mr. Trump

Trump sued O’Brien, claiming harm to his business and seeking $5 billion in damages. Trump spent more than $1 million in legal fees over the course of five years. He conceded, under questioning from O’Brien’s attorneys during a deposition, that he had consulted his own feelings to determine his net worth. Needless to say, he lost the suit.

2006–2007: GoTrump.com

GoTrump was a Travelocity-powered search engine for customers seeking luxury-travel deals, such as discounts on private jets. It supposedly featured Trump’s personal recommendations and travel tips, but — recalling the “handpicked” faculty at Trump U — one doubts their authenticity. Called a “vanity site” by one financial analyst, it shut down a year later.

2006–2007: Trump Mortgage

The man Trump hired to head his mortgage company called himself a top Wall Street executive, when in fact he had lackluster banking credentials. The company folded in a year. But don’t worry — when running the country, Trump will hire “the best people.”

2006–2011: Trump Vodka

Trump “super premium” vodka was launched under the now-ironic slogan “Success Distilled.” The vodka ended production when the company didn’t meet threshold sales requirements.

2006–2015: American Communications Network boondoggle

For nine years, Trump appeared in promotional videos hawking ACN’s “revolutionary products” such as the company’s videophone. But the business model of ACN, a telecommunications company based on multi-level marketing, was almost indistinguishable from a pyramid scheme. ACN sales agents received a commission for selling a product to a new customer, and then recruited that customer to become a new sales agent, earning commissions from their sales down the line.

RELATED: Trump’s Multi-Level Marketing Telecom Endorsement Is Another Example of His Terrible Judgement

ACN was ordered to cease and desist on the grounds that it appeared to be running a pyramid scheme by Montana regulators.

Furthermore, despite a plug on The Celebrity Apprentice, the videophone was already selling poorly, partly because it was compatible only with other ACN videophones. The company reduced phone orders from its supplier, which laid off 70 percent of its staff and later filed to liquidate in federal bankruptcy court.

2007–2008: Trump Steaks

You’d expect Trump-approved beef to at least be sprinkled with gold flakes. Alas, when Trump paraded “his” steaks at a post-primary-night press conference on March 8, the meat had been purchased directly from Bush Brothers Provisions and dubbed “Trump Steaks.” In fact, the steaks sold at Trump’s properties and clubs arrived still wrapped in Bush Brothers packaging. These were not the Trump Steaks that had been sold by the Sharper Image beginning in 2007 — steaks that sold very poorly before being discontinued; this business venture was not, shall we say, well done.

2007–2009: Trump magazine

This glossy quarterly of Trump self-aggrandizement folded in 2009 — the magazine Trump recently hurled into a campaign-speech audience was not, as he asserted, a Trump magazine, and you won’t find it at newsstands. Unsurprisingly, Trump magazine featured Trump or a Trump family member on almost every cover.

2009–2011: Trump Network

The Trump Network was another failed multi-level-marketing venture that was arguably a pyramid scheme. It sold customized vitamins based on urine samples collected by its “scientific” testing kits. Not only is this junk science, but the network worked on a bogus marketing strategy in which buyers become sellers and earn commission on their recruits’ sales, as with ACN. After financial troubles the company was sold in 2012 — and recruiters shouldered the losses.

RELATED: Add Another Yuuge Failure to Trump’s Pile: The Trump Network

2010: Foreign workers at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort and elsewhere

RELATED: Donald Trump Thinks American Workers Aren’t Good Enough for the Trump Organization

2016: Wealthy Chinese investing cash in Trump Tower in exchange for visas

2016: Trump’s campaign manager allegedly assaults Breitbart reporter
 
So what do these have to do with him being president? List everyone's failures on here if you are going to do this...Many people learn an awful lot from failing.
 
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grizpsych said:
Bisonation said:
All of a sudden in 2017 all these leftist nutjobs want statues gone.

Democrats were for Slavery
Democrats were for Jim Crow
Democrats had the KLANBAKE at their DNC
Democrats had the Governors in the South that wouldnt allow black kids in.
Democrats had Roosevelt who PUT AMERICANS IN INTERNMENT CAMPS!

You do understand that the philosophy of our political parties has swapped, right?


Err, not quite. What happened is that the Democrats exploited the Southern Confederacy for as long as they could, and then when they stopped voting Democratic, they started to villify them.
Also, Democrats have moved from representing the working man to making the main point of their party be which bathroom to use and the right to kill your child as late as you want.
I don't think either of those were ever on the Republican Party list.

However, there are similarities of today's Democrats and yesterdays - They are willing to use masked individuals to compel silence through the illegal use of force. Then it was the KKK, now it's the Antifa.
Also, Democrats were for gun control to keep the newly freed slaves from shooting their former masters. Now they are for gun control so they can keep people from shooting the bureaucrats who would be the public's owners. And there's so much more kids!!
 
Fat Bruno said:
It’s pretty clear that the sick Trump presidency expired a couple days ago … the question, now, is how long will its troubled ghost linger on the scene before it’s put to rest completely?

Wait - It was Russia, Russia, Russia. Then it was the Special Prosecutor. Then it was the failure to condemn Nazis, even though he did repeatedly. Hmm, I think this ghost will be hanging around a lot longer. And I for one am glad.
Watching the Left go batsh!t crazy is much more amusing than anything Hollywood puts out lately.
 
fencer24 said:
grizpsych said:
Bisonation said:
All of a sudden in 2017 all these leftist nutjobs want statues gone.

Democrats were for Slavery
Democrats were for Jim Crow
Democrats had the KLANBAKE at their DNC
Democrats had the Governors in the South that wouldnt allow black kids in.
Democrats had Roosevelt who PUT AMERICANS IN INTERNMENT CAMPS!

You do understand that the philosophy of our political parties has swapped, right?


Err, not quite. What happened is that the Democrats exploited the Southern Confederacy for as long as they could, and then when they stopped voting Democratic, they started to villify them.
Also, Democrats have moved from representing the working man to making the main point of their party be which bathroom to use and the right to kill your child as late as you want.
I don't think either of those were ever on the Republican Party list.

However, there are similarities of today's Democrats and yesterdays - They are willing to use masked individuals to compel silence through the illegal use of force. Then it was the KKK, now it's the Antifa.
Also, Democrats were for gun control to keep the newly freed slaves from shooting their former masters. Now they are for gun control so they can keep people from shooting the bureaucrats who would be the public's owners. And there's so much more kids!!
Interesting, did this hurt to write? I mean cognitively, you put some serious effort in here to lie to yourself.
 
fencer24 said:
Fat Bruno said:
It’s pretty clear that the sick Trump presidency expired a couple days ago … the question, now, is how long will its troubled ghost linger on the scene before it’s put to rest completely?

Wait - It was Russia, Russia, Russia. Then it was the Special Prosecutor. Then it was the failure to condemn Nazis, even though he did repeatedly. Hmm, I think this ghost will be hanging around a lot longer. And I for one am glad.
Watching the Left go batsh!t crazy is much more amusing than anything Hollywood puts out lately.

Actually, lunatic, it was all those things and a lot more ... and still is. Meanwhile, somebody really is amused at the daily three ring circus in the White Nut House destroying itself. I haven't enjoyed myself so much since the summer of Watergate. I really doubt you're enjoying it at all let alone as much as we are but you keep handling the pain as best you can.
 
reinell30 said:
So what do these have to do with him being president? List everyone's failures on here if you are going to do this...Many people learn an awful lot from failing.

Are you trying for prizes as the biggest simpleton on the innerwebs?
 
grizpsych said:
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Err, not quite. What happened is that the Democrats exploited the Southern Confederacy for as long as they could, and then when they stopped voting Democratic, they started to villify them.
Also, Democrats have moved from representing the working man to making the main point of their party be which bathroom to use and the right to kill your child as late as you want.
I don't think either of those were ever on the Republican Party list.

However, there are similarities of today's Democrats and yesterdays - They are willing to use masked individuals to compel silence through the illegal use of force. Then it was the KKK, now it's the Antifa.
Also, Democrats were for gun control to keep the newly freed slaves from shooting their former masters. Now they are for gun control so they can keep people from shooting the bureaucrats who would be the public's owners. And there's so much more kids!!
Interesting, did this hurt to write? I mean cognitively, you put some serious effort in here to lie to yourself.
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I stand in amazement of your control of the facts to refute the argument. But, that is because you are obviously trained in the "soft" sciences.
 
fencer24 said:
grizpsych said:
Interesting, did this hurt to write? I mean cognitively, you put some serious effort in here to lie to yourself.

I stand in amazement of your control of the facts to refute the argument. But, that is because you are obviously trained in the "soft" sciences.

Ad hominem is your route huh? So, when you watch the t.v and you see the people in masks wearing black, covered in anarchy signs and hold banners with anarchist symbols, you think they are democrats/liberal. Seriously? Antifa literally means anti-fascist. This used to be a good philosophy to have in this country.

And sure, in the 1860s Democrats were conservative and a Democrat started the KKK. That doesn't change the fact that literally ever major KKK, nationalist, and neo-Nazi party today has repeatedly endorsed republicans and Donald Trump. This is where I find your effort to be incredible. You seem to discount the reality where these groups were just carrying torches and chanting white supremacist mantras.
 
Fat Bruno said:
reinell30 said:
So what do these have to do with him being president? List everyone's failures on here if you are going to do this...Many people learn an awful lot from failing.

Are you trying for prizes as the biggest simpleton on the innerwebs?

List your girl Nancy Pelosi accomplishments or better yet, her failures before she was elected and then after. I'd like to see you use the same objectiveness.
 
grizpsych said:
fencer24 said:
grizpsych said:
Interesting, did this hurt to write? I mean cognitively, you put some serious effort in here to lie to yourself.

I stand in amazement of your control of the facts to refute the argument. But, that is because you are obviously trained in the "soft" sciences.

Ad hominem is your route huh? So, when you watch the t.v and you see the people in masks wearing black, covered in anarchy signs and hold banners with anarchist symbols, you think they are democrats/liberal. Seriously? Antifa literally means anti-fascist. This used to be a good philosophy to have in this country.

And sure, in the 1860s Democrats were conservative and a Democrat started the KKK. That doesn't change the fact that literally ever major KKK, nationalist, and neo-Nazi party today has repeatedly endorsed republicans and Donald Trump. This is where I find your effort to be incredible. You seem to discount the reality where these groups were just carrying torches and chanting white supremacist mantras.
Okay, I'll admit it was a cheap shot, sort of in retaliation for your attempt on me to guess why I wrote that the Democrats and the Republicans have not switched philosophies.

As to the Antifa, is no one else amused by the irony of a group of people using fascist tactics to complain about fascism? Black shirts were started by Mussolini, the original successful fascist. The term itself refers back to the bundle of sticks with an axe that was the symbol of Roman authority. I am whole heartedly against fascism, which is why I am opposed to the Antifa. Their rationalization that they can use physical violence to silence those they disagree with is not antifascistic. It is fascism embodied.

As to the Democrat/liberal dichotomy, even you would have to agree that they have moved so far left they have caught up with the fascist side of their version of socialism. They are actually calling for the suppression of what they deem as hate speech. The problem is that the term can be widely interpreted to the point of absurdity. Don't like Nazi speech, well shut it down, right? But I don't like burning the American flag. The flag that draped the coffins of my brothers and sisters of arms when they are returned from battle. Burning that flag aggravates me to the point that I just want to kick their asses. Is that agreeable to you as well?

In fact, Democrats seem to have abandoned any concern for the Constitution in their current Cultural Revolution. I could have fit in just fine as a Democrat when JFK said "bear any burden, pay any price in the defense of liberty" or "ask not what your country can do for you, , , ,." Or MLK's wish that someday his children will be judged for the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

Today's Democrats would consider those to be far right extremism. So no, the parties didn't switch philosophies, the Democrats ran as far to the Left as they could, and jumped off, all the while feeling good about themselves.
 
Oh, I forgot to address the KKK and others endorsing Republicans. In the past, the Communist Party of the USA used to endorse Democrats, and pointing that out was considered to be bad form, since it wasn't solicited or accepted. That was during the height of the Red Scare and McCarthyism.
Today it's reversed and you are fine with bringing it up. You seem to be a neo-McCarthyite.
 
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