Kent Baer will be hired as Griz defensive coordinator

[AZGrizFan]

Just because Semore was given a pass doesn't mean Baer should as well. He's got a gigantic body of work (the last 7-8 years of which suck balls) to analyze.

Okay, I get it. If the new DC has little or no experience, no one should question the hire. In fact, the DC should be given much praise. If the new DC has an incredible amount of great experience, then everyone should look for little things to criticize and, if some is found, assume the DC is not the right pick for the job.

Sure, makes a lot of sense. Keep digging your hole.

Except that's not even remotely what I said. But keep digging your hole. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Just because Semore was given a pass doesn't mean Baer should as well. He's got a gigantic body of work (the last 7-8 years of which suck balls) to analyze.

Okay, I get it. If the new DC has little or no experience, no one should question the hire. In fact, the DC should be given much praise. If the new DC has an incredible amount of great experience, then everyone should look for little things to criticize and, if some is found, assume the DC is not the right pick for the job.

Sure, makes a lot of sense. Keep digging your hole.

Except that's not even remotely what I said. But keep digging your hole. :thumb:

I'm not in a hole; you are. I support the hiring of Baer. He looks terrific. I looked at his background, both good and less good, am fine with that, and look forward to seeing his defenses and results.

I don't feel a need to look at things in his results to pick at. I don't feel the need to look at what was said about Stitt when he was hired. Apples to Oranges. Also, I wasn't analyzing Stitt's background nor picking at it or him when he was hired or when he was here. I generally look forward and at results. While I was always a Bobby supporter and thought he should have been hired 3 years ago, he wasn't hire, and Stitt was. I was hopeful for Stitt's success. He wasn't successful enough. Had he beaten the Cats, he would still be UM's coach. I wish him well. I think he will be successful.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Just because Semore was given a pass doesn't mean Baer should as well. He's got a gigantic body of work (the last 7-8 years of which suck balls) to analyze.

Okay, I get it. If the new DC has little or no experience, no one should question the hire. In fact, the DC should be given much praise. If the new DC has an incredible amount of great experience, then everyone should look for little things to criticize and, if some is found, assume the DC is not the right pick for the job.

Sure, makes a lot of sense. Keep digging your hole.

Except that's not even remotely what I said. But keep digging your hole. :thumb:

I'm not in a hole; you are. I support the hiring of Baer. He looks terrific. I looked at his background, both good and less good, am fine with that, and look forward to seeing his defenses and results.

I don't feel a need to look at things in his results to pick at. I don't feel the need to look at what was said about Stitt when he was hired. Apples to Oranges. Also, I wasn't analyzing Stitt's background nor picking at it or him when he was hired or when he was here. I generally look forward and at results. While I was always a Bobby supporter and thought he should have been hired 3 years ago, he wasn't hire, and Stitt was. I was hopeful for Stitt's success. He wasn't successful enough. Had he beaten the Cats, he would still be UM's coach. I wish him well. I think he will be successful.

Apology accepted.

 

[kemajic]

Okay, I get it. If the new DC has little or no experience, no one should question the hire. In fact, the DC should be given much praise. If the new DC has an incredible amount of great experience, then everyone should look for little things to criticize and, if some is found, assume the DC is not the right pick for the job.

Sure, makes a lot of sense. Keep digging your hole.

Except that's not even remotely what I said. But keep digging your hole. :thumb:

I'm not in a hole; you are. I support the hiring of Baer. He looks terrific. I looked at his background, both good and less good, am fine with that, and look forward to seeing his defenses and results.

I don't feel a need to look at things in his results to pick at. I don't feel the need to look at what was said about Stitt when he was hired. Apples to Oranges. Also, I wasn't analyzing Stitt's background nor picking at it or him when he was hired or when he was here. I generally look forward and at results. While I was always a Bobby supporter and thought he should have been hired 3 years ago, he wasn't hire, and Stitt was. I was hopeful for Stitt's success. He wasn't successful enough. Had he beaten the Cats, he would still be UM's coach. I wish him well. I think he will be successful.

Apology accepted.

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

 

[jcu27]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

Is that really a question..?

 

[PlayerRep]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

Do you really expect that Baer will give up 30 points a game? Or, what percentage chance do you give that? Also, please dont just repeat numbers for largely non-applicable situations. Tell us what you believe will occur.

 

[UMcheer2000]

Except that's not even remotely what I said. But keep digging your hole. :thumb:

I'm not in a hole; you are. I support the hiring of Baer. He looks terrific. I looked at his background, both good and less good, am fine with that, and look forward to seeing his defenses and results.

I don't feel a need to look at things in his results to pick at. I don't feel the need to look at what was said about Stitt when he was hired. Apples to Oranges. Also, I wasn't analyzing Stitt's background nor picking at it or him when he was hired or when he was here. I generally look forward and at results. While I was always a Bobby supporter and thought he should have been hired 3 years ago, he wasn't hire, and Stitt was. I was hopeful for Stitt's success. He wasn't successful enough. Had he beaten the Cats, he would still be UM's coach. I wish him well. I think he will be successful.

Apology accepted.

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Not sure if I missed it..

But did anybody ever ask Semore why he made that type of call twice?

Thanks?

 

[EverettGriz]

My final post on this, because I think Raider has a pretty good philosophy regarding this thread:

David Hasselhoff has decades of acting experience at the highest levels.




Doesn't mean he's any good at it.

 

[IdaGriz01]

My final post on this, because I think Raider has a pretty good philosophy regarding this thread:

David Hasselhoff has decades of acting experience at the highest levels.

Doesn't mean he's any good at it.

That's pretty damn funny, and I suspect there's an element of truth to it. :lol:

However, it is also apples vs oranges, to a great extent. (Full disclosure: I had to look Hasselhoff up, 'cause had no idea who the Hell he is.) Trouble is, there are any number of (so-called) actors and actresses who can't actually act ... but get by -- in many cases, do very well -- on their looks and/or sex appeal. I assume that's the case with Hasselhoff.

Now, Baer may have benefited (i.e, kept being hired for coaching jobs) all those years from something other than coaching results. So, rather than bitching about his (perceived) inability to coach defense, we should be asking what he actually brings to the table that has kept him employed.

Myself, I'm in the camp that says "Hauck knows what he's doing." Bobbie hired Baer because he expects the man to add value to the program. And, never forget, Hauck's job depends upon him being right. So does anyone out there who's bitching have an extended network in the coaching "fraternity" to answer the question of why Hauck hired him?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I really thought this would be resolved by now.

 

[alabamagrizzly]

My final post on this, because I think Raider has a pretty good philosophy regarding this thread:

David Hasselhoff has decades of acting experience at the highest levels.




Doesn't mean he's any good at it.

Are you freaking kidding me?!!!! Name one bad movie the Hoff has done! Can’t, can you! That’s cus there ain’t any. The man is a genius and maybe the finest actor of his generation which is like the last 40 years and he is still kickin out killer movies like The Sharknado series, Killing Hasselhoff, and of course saving the Batwatch disaster with his cameo. You need to come back to reality Everett and recognize his greatness.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

Do you really expect that Baer will give up 30 points a game? Or, what percentage chance do you give that? Also, please dont just repeat numbers for largely non-applicable situations. Tell us what you believe will occur.

Well, given that he hasn’t recruited/designed/implemented or coached a defense that has given up less than 30 (with one exception) in the past 8 years, tell us why YOU think he’ll suddenly become Wade Phillips?

 

[AZGrizFan]

I really thought this would be resolved by now.

I think I found your problem.

 

[PlayerRep]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

Do you really expect that Baer will give up 30 points a game? Or, what percentage chance do you give that? Also, please dont just repeat numbers for largely non-applicable situations. Tell us what you believe will occur.

Well, given that he hasn’t recruited/designed/implemented or coached a defense that has given up less than 30 (with one exception) in the past 8 years, tell us why YOU think he’ll suddenly become Wade Phillips?

Because of his experience at P5 and other FBS programs. I believe its harder to do well at the top level. Do you disagree?

Again, why are you so afraid to tell us how Baer will do at UM? I think it's because you know you are wrong.

I will bring up the Never Played the Game thing later.

 

[PlayerRep]

My final post on this, because I think Raider has a pretty good philosophy regarding this thread:

David Hasselhoff has decades of acting experience at the highest levels.




Doesn't mean he's any good at it.

Are you freaking kidding me?!!!! Name one bad movie the Hoff has done! Can’t, can you! That’s cus there ain’t any. The man is a genius and maybe the finest actor of his generation which is like the last 40 years and he is still kickin out killer movies like The Sharknado series, Killing Hasselhoff, and of course saving the Batwatch disaster with his cameo. You need to come back to reality Everett and recognize his greatness.

Name one top and acclaimened movie he has done.

 

[EverettGriz]

My final post on this, because I think Raider has a pretty good philosophy regarding this thread:

David Hasselhoff has decades of acting experience at the highest levels.




Doesn't mean he's any good at it.

Are you freaking kidding me?!!!! Name one bad movie the Hoff has done! Can’t, can you! That’s cus there ain’t any. The man is a genius and maybe the finest actor of his generation which is like the last 40 years and he is still kickin out killer movies like The Sharknado series, Killing Hasselhoff, and of course saving the Batwatch disaster with his cameo. You need to come back to reality Everett and recognize his greatness.

First to admit when I’m wrong. Can’t argue with anything here. Not sure what got into me. Thanks for bringing me back to reality, Bama.

 

[mtgrizrule]

Why is it, every other coaching addition so far made by Hauck has an article on gogriz.com, and this one doesn't? I am still questioning this supposed hire. It would be classic, if Hauck ends up hiring someone else for DC. Sure would teach some to not jump the gun.

 

[dayday]

Why is it, every other coaching addition so far made by Hauck has an article on gogriz.com, and this one doesn't? I am still questioning this supposed hire. It would be classic, if Hauck ends up hiring someone else for DC. Sure would teach some to not jump the gun.

It’s an HR deal. UM’s HR division is literally one of the most disorganized and slowest offices around apparently. It does not take a week to two weeks to cross all of the t’s and dot some I’s. Apparently him and Pease can’t pass their protocols yet.

However, from all accounts DC will be Baer. He is followed by Bonnicksen and Skyline is reporting it. Some of their sources are about as close to the Griz football team as it gets.


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[SoldierGriz]

Possibly after we find out he does not call full-out blitzes on 3rd and 34 against a running QB, and fear of zone coverages, you can relax. If not perfect, we will be better off.

Sure, that'd be a step up, but if the numbers don't improve, then what? Is Bobby going to be accepting of a defense that averages giving up 30 a game?

No.

There were pages of discussion here ref Stitt's tolerance of Semore. Many, myself included, believed Stitt might be retained if he jettisoned Semore. I don't think Stitt was asked to do that, and I don't think he would have done so if asked. But, I don't know.

BH will not accept a defense that gives up ~30 a game. Program and results will be prioritized appropriately. If this guy doesn't perform - BH will escort him to the state line.