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Zac Crews

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MooUBaby said:
The crowd like Everett, that want to burn this kid to the ground for a word, are exactly what is wrong with this world. If he is a true racist it will come out, but he needs a second chance for sure then you can make that judgement. It’s such a shame that in todays world, words are taking more seriously than actual crimes and actions. I feel bad for the younger generation because they are screwed and people like Everett and the rest of the liberal woke crowd are killing the country one dumbass policy after another. Idiots

“If an individual doesn’t agree with me on every issue, and I mean every issue, he or she is an idiot and probably a bad person. I can infer everything a person believes based solely upon one thing he or she believes. It is impossible to agree/disagree with certain things from both camps.”

—What’s Killing the Country
 
MooUBaby said:
The crowd like Everett, that want to burn this kid to the ground for a word, are exactly what is wrong with this world. If he is a true racist it will come out, but he needs a second chance for sure then you can make that judgement. It’s such a shame that in todays world, words are taking more seriously than actual crimes and actions. I feel bad for the younger generation because they are screwed and people like Everett and the rest of the liberal woke crowd are killing the country one dumbass policy after another. Idiots

STFU. Show me one post where I've said anything negative about Crews. I've, rightfully, said I'm disgusted by what he wrote, but by all measures he sounds like a good kid who made a bad decision. Shit happens, and when it does, it stinks. So yes, this stinks, but the smell was of his own doing. Actions have consequences.

If you want to know what's wrong in the world, it's that people like you try to turn everything into politics, when this is a simple matter of right and wrong. Hold people accountable. Lack of doing THAT is what's ruining our country (that and political nutjobs like you).
 
EverettGriz said:
MooUBaby said:
The crowd like Everett, that want to burn this kid to the ground for a word, are exactly what is wrong with this world. If he is a true racist it will come out, but he needs a second chance for sure then you can make that judgement. It’s such a shame that in todays world, words are taking more seriously than actual crimes and actions. I feel bad for the younger generation because they are screwed and people like Everett and the rest of the liberal woke crowd are killing the country one dumbass policy after another. Idiots

STFU. Show me one post where I've said anything negative about Crews. I've, rightfully, said I'm disgusted by what he wrote, but by all measures he sounds like a good kid who made a bad decision. Shit happens, and when it does, it stinks. So yes, this stinks, but the smell was of his own doing. Actions have consequences.

If you want to know what's wrong in the world, it's that people like you try to turn everything into politics, when this is a simple matter of right and wrong. Hold people accountable. Lack of doing THAT is what's ruining our country (that and political nutjobs like you).
You probably double mask when you drive a car. Fucking idiot. I don’t believe in ruining a kids life or anybody’s life for words they say. He made a mistake and needs a second chance. The state of Washington is a prefect place for a moron like yourself. Stay there.
 
MooUBaby said:
EverettGriz said:
STFU. Show me one post where I've said anything negative about Crews. I've, rightfully, said I'm disgusted by what he wrote, but by all measures he sounds like a good kid who made a bad decision. Shit happens, and when it does, it stinks. So yes, this stinks, but the smell was of his own doing. Actions have consequences.

If you want to know what's wrong in the world, it's that people like you try to turn everything into politics, when this is a simple matter of right and wrong. Hold people accountable. Lack of doing THAT is what's ruining our country (that and political nutjobs like you).
You probably double mask when you drive a car. f###[#] idiot. I don’t believe in ruining a kids life or anybody’s life for words they say. He made a mistake and needs a second chance. The state of Washington is a prefect place for a moron like yourself. Stay there.
It's always interesting on here when people get their dick dragged through the dirt metaphorically and are to stupid to know it.. You really should put your tail between your legs and go away for a while.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
kemajic said:
Did Crews say anything? If so, what did he say?

You’re right Kem. There’s no telling what he says. We only know what he took the time to post on a publicly viewable message. I’d be willing to bet he’d probably said it several times in casual speaking. Most people message the way the talk. I know the only times I may use a word I don’t normally use, it’s to make a special point. Maybe that’s what he was doing when he took the time to type out the racist term he posted.

Look, I get that he was a young dumb kid and we all make mistakes. For people like you and PR and whoever else to defend it like it was ok though is ridiculous and part of the reason that racism may never go away in this country. Apparently, atleast by eGriz ratio standards, that’s very few of us that think racism should be completely unacceptable.

I assume Kem’s comment was that all we know is Crews wrote something. No one has said he said something. He wrote a few words. I suppose the message was viewable by friends or publicly viewable, but we don’t know that. The recipient could have taken a screen shot and passed it along to someone who also passed it along.

I have never said what Crews said was okay. Obviously, dumb. But I have gave to know the circumstances before I formed an opinion.

The N word is not racist per se. the circumstances and context would determine that. I also disagree that the N word said by a white guy is always racist. It may or may not be. Again, context needed.

The N is written in various places and publications and is not considered racist in those contacts. See Merriam-Webster dictionary. Listed and not defined as racist. See the listing in Wiki.

I find it’s funny that people think it is okay to write or say “N word”, but think saying the word is racist. Is it okay to think the whole word?
 
MooUBaby said:
EverettGriz said:
STFU. Show me one post where I've said anything negative about Crews. I've, rightfully, said I'm disgusted by what he wrote, but by all measures he sounds like a good kid who made a bad decision. Shit happens, and when it does, it stinks. So yes, this stinks, but the smell was of his own doing. Actions have consequences.

If you want to know what's wrong in the world, it's that people like you try to turn everything into politics, when this is a simple matter of right and wrong. Hold people accountable. Lack of doing THAT is what's ruining our country (that and political nutjobs like you).
You probably double mask when you drive a car. f###[#] idiot. I don’t believe in ruining a kids life or anybody’s life for words they say. He made a mistake and needs a second chance. The state of Washington is a prefect place for a moron like yourself. Stay there.

You honestly think that Crews not getting to play at Montana will ruin his life🤣? Overreact much? You must be emotional😄.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
kemajic said:
Did Crews say anything? If so, what did he say?

For people like you and PR and whoever else to defend it like it was ok though is ridiculous and part of the reason that racism may never go away in this country.
What did I defend or say was OK in my post? Your role as the racist police is getting a bit strong.
 
mthoopsfan said:
alabamagrizzly said:
You’re right Kem. There’s no telling what he says. We only know what he took the time to post on a publicly viewable message. I’d be willing to bet he’d probably said it several times in casual speaking. Most people message the way the talk. I know the only times I may use a word I don’t normally use, it’s to make a special point. Maybe that’s what he was doing when he took the time to type out the racist term he posted.

Look, I get that he was a young dumb kid and we all make mistakes. For people like you and PR and whoever else to defend it like it was ok though is ridiculous and part of the reason that racism may never go away in this country. Apparently, atleast by eGriz ratio standards, that’s very few of us that think racism should be completely unacceptable.

I assume Kem’s comment was that all we know is Crews wrote something. No one has said he said something. He wrote a few words. I suppose the message was viewable by friends or publicly viewable, but we don’t know that. The recipient could have taken a screen shot and passed it along to someone who also passed it along.

I have never said what Crews said was okay. Obviously, dumb. But I have gave to know the circumstances before I formed an opinion.

The N word is not racist per se. the circumstances and context would determine that. I also disagree that the N word said by a white guy is always racist. It may or may not be. Again, context needed.

The N is written in various places and publications and is not considered racist in those contacts. See Merriam-Webster dictionary. Listed and not defined as racist. See the listing in Wiki.

I find it’s funny that people think it is okay to write or say “N word”, but think saying the word is racist. Is it okay to think the whole word?

Still playing the Devil’s Advocate I see. Yes, Kem, just like you, was mincing words. There’s little difference in saying something and writing something. Just the form in how it’s expressed. I’m almost afraid to ask but give me an example of how Crews post could not be in a racist context.
 
kemajic said:
alabamagrizzly said:
For people like you and PR and whoever else to defend it like it was ok though is ridiculous and part of the reason that racism may never go away in this country.
What did I defend or say was OK in my post? Your role as the racist police is getting a bit strong.

Ok, maybe you weren’t defending him but why question my wording of my comment? I’m sure you knew what I meant. Sorry to disrupt the delicate balance of acceptable racism on the board. Like many on here have said, racism ain’t going away so I might as well ignore it, right?
 
alabamagrizzly said:
mthoopsfan said:
I have not played devil's advocate with my posts on Crews.

How would anyone (i.e. you) misinterpret and make so many (dumb) posts directed at this statement of mine?

"I don't agree that the word is racist. Lots of people use it without being racist."

Because your statement is 100% wrong. The way Crews said it is 100% racist. You already said you knew that when you said you knew everything I posted for over 50 years. Only someone who either was ignorant or playing the Devils Advocate would argue against that. Maybe I’m giving you too much credit.

I don't understand your comment. Could you put it into English?
 
See the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It doesn't say the term is racist.

offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a Black person

2 offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a member of any dark-skinned race (see RACE entry 1 sense 1a)

3 now often offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of a class or group of people who are systematically subjected to discrimination and unfair treatment
 
alabamagrizzly said:
kemajic said:
What did I defend or say was OK in my post? Your role as the racist police is getting a bit strong.

Ok, maybe you weren’t defending him but why question my wording of my comment? I’m sure you knew what I meant. Sorry to disrupt the delicate balance of acceptable racism on the board. Like many on here have said, racism ain’t going away so I might as well ignore it, right?
Actually straying outside the lines of the facts like you are doing in the passion of your narrative is what disrupts the delicate balance of the racist debate on this board. You consistently exhibit that you do not have an open mind and that opinions are not allowed. I view balance as good; you clearly don't.
 
MooUBaby said:
EverettGriz said:
STFU. Show me one post where I've said anything negative about Crews. I've, rightfully, said I'm disgusted by what he wrote, but by all measures he sounds like a good kid who made a bad decision. Shit happens, and when it does, it stinks. So yes, this stinks, but the smell was of his own doing. Actions have consequences.

If you want to know what's wrong in the world, it's that people like you try to turn everything into politics, when this is a simple matter of right and wrong. Hold people accountable. Lack of doing THAT is what's ruining our country (that and political nutjobs like you).
You probably double mask when you drive a car. f###[#] idiot. I don’t believe in ruining a kids life or anybody’s life for words they say. He made a mistake and needs a second chance. The state of Washington is a prefect place for a moron like yourself. Stay there.

He’ll get a second chance. It just won’t be at UM. Sorry if you’re too big a pussy to handle that. Maybe go watch some right wing “news” channel where they blame the “libtards” for all of your problems. You’ll feel better, I’m sure.


In the meantime, yes, I’ll happily stay in Washington if you promise to stay the fvck away. People here are pretty normal and sane. We kind of enjoy it that way and don’t need the likes of you political nutjobs fvcking it all up.
 
kemajic said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Ok, maybe you weren’t defending him but why question my wording of my comment? I’m sure you knew what I meant. Sorry to disrupt the delicate balance of acceptable racism on the board. Like many on here have said, racism ain’t going away so I might as well ignore it, right?
Actually straying outside the lines of the facts like you are doing in the passion of your narrative is what disrupts the delicate balance of the racist debate on this board. You consistently exhibit that you do not have an open mind and that opinions are not allowed. I view balance as good; you clearly don't.

1. How am I straying outside the lines of the facts?

2. Except for on this particular subject I’ve been discussing with PR on wether it’s ok for white people to use the N word, where have I exhibited a lack of open mindedness?

You are way off base on both those comments.
 
mthoopsfan said:
See the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It doesn't say the term is racist.

offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a Black person

2 offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a member of any dark-skinned race (see RACE entry 1 sense 1a)

3 now often offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of a class or group of people who are systematically subjected to discrimination and unfair treatment

I tell you what PR, how about we leave this to the experts on this subject. I’ll ask 10 of my black friends what they think of the situation and you ask 10 of yours. I’ll be as non biased as possible explaining the situation. All I’ll explain is a 15 year old white kid bought a hand gun from a friend and then I’ll show them a pic of his post and ask them of their opinion of the word and if they feel it’s acceptable or not for use by white people. You do the same and we’ll convene later today and compare stories. That is if your brave enough to show your black friends your defending the use of that word by white people.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
mthoopsfan said:
See the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It doesn't say the term is racist.

offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a Black person

2 offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a member of any dark-skinned race (see RACE entry 1 sense 1a)

3 now often offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of a class or group of people who are systematically subjected to discrimination and unfair treatment

I tell you what PR, how about we leave this to the experts on this subject. I’ll ask 10 of my black friends what they think of the situation and you ask 10 of yours. I’ll be as non biased as possible explaining the situation. All I’ll explain is a 15 year old white kid bought a hand gun from a friend and then I’ll show them a pic of his post and ask them of their opinion of the word and if they feel it’s acceptable or not for use by white people. You do the same and we’ll convene later today and compare stories. That is if your brave enough to show your black friends your defending the use of that word by white people.

How about you explain why the M-W dictionary doesn’t support your narrative?

How about we stick to the Crews facts? Let us know if you get them.
 
kemajic said:
alabamagrizzly said:
Ok, maybe you weren’t defending him but why question my wording of my comment? I’m sure you knew what I meant. Sorry to disrupt the delicate balance of acceptable racism on the board. Like many on here have said, racism ain’t going away so I might as well ignore it, right?
Actually straying outside the lines of the facts like you are doing in the passion of your narrative is what disrupts the delicate balance of the racist debate on this board. You consistently exhibit that you do not have an open mind and that opinions are not allowed. I view balance as good; you clearly don't.

Good summary.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
kemajic said:
Actually straying outside the lines of the facts like you are doing in the passion of your narrative is what disrupts the delicate balance of the racist debate on this board. You consistently exhibit that you do not have an open mind and that opinions are not allowed. I view balance as good; you clearly don't.

1. How am I straying outside the lines of the facts?

2. Except for on this particular subject I’ve been discussing with PR on wether it’s ok for white people to use the N word, where have I exhibited a lack of open mindedness?

You are way off base on both those comments.

You are making up stuff about Crews. You don’t know the Crews facts and circumstances. You are attributing things to other posters that they didn’t say.
 
alabamagrizzly said:
mthoopsfan said:
See the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It doesn't say the term is racist.

offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a Black person

2 offensive, see usage paragraph below —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a member of any dark-skinned race (see RACE entry 1 sense 1a)

3 now often offensive, see usage paragraph below : a member of a class or group of people who are systematically subjected to discrimination and unfair treatment

I tell you what PR, how about we leave this to the experts on this subject. I’ll ask 10 of my black friends what they think of the situation and you ask 10 of yours. I’ll be as non biased as possible explaining the situation. All I’ll explain is a 15 year old white kid bought a hand gun from a friend and then I’ll show them a pic of his post and ask them of their opinion of the word and if they feel it’s acceptable or not for use by white people. You do the same and we’ll convene later today and compare stories. That is if your brave enough to show your black friends your defending the use of that word by white people.
? what does this have to do with Zac's message on venmo? who bought a handgun? never once has it been indicated it was a venmo payment for a handgun..
 
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