You're Part of the Problem

[GGNez]

Does this help anything? I've agreed with a lot of what you've written, and I've stayed silent on a lot of this stuff, but wholesale criticizing only men and posting a thread with this title doesn't advance the ball in the least. I don't want to get into a big thing, but I just don't believe telling people they are a part of the problem and posting man-hating memes serves your purpose, unless I'm wrong about your purpose.

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Now you’re just being absurd. I wanted a meme about stubbornness due to each side not wanting to let go of the anger. Nothing I’ve posted has been in any way mean spirited. This photo is a joke made by a man, obviously.
If you’ve read anything other than levity, humor or a spirit of coming together for the sake of Griz Nation in any of my posts, that’s on you because it doesn’t exist.

 

[dupuyer griz]

Does this help anything? I've agreed with a lot of what you've written, and I've stayed silent on a lot of this stuff, but wholesale criticizing only men and posting a thread with this title doesn't advance the ball in the least. I don't want to get into a big thing, but I just don't believe telling people they are a part of the problem and posting man-hating memes serves your purpose, unless I'm wrong about your purpose.

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Now you’re just being absurd. I wanted a meme about stubbornness due to each side not wanting to let go of the anger. Nothing I’ve posted has been in any way mean spirited. This photo is a joke made by a man, obviously.
If you’ve read anything other than levity, humor or a spirit of coming together for the sake of Griz Nation in any of my posts, that’s on you because it doesn’t exist.

Absurd is an interesting word, I find much of the world and people out there to be absurd. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Again I think the joke is hilarious, given the opportunity I would have done the spray painting. Just proving a point here.


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[GGNez]

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Now you’re just being absurd. I wanted a meme about stubbornness due to each side not wanting to let go of the anger. Nothing I’ve posted has been in any way mean spirited. This photo is a joke made by a man, obviously.
If you’ve read anything other than levity, humor or a spirit of coming together for the sake of Griz Nation in any of my posts, that’s on you because it doesn’t exist.

Absurd is an interesting word, I find much of the world and people out there to be absurd. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Again I think the joke is hilarious, given the opportunity I would have done the spray painting. Just proving a point here.


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Don’t be so sure about that. Unless your point is that I’m right about both sides nitpicking, finding reason to hang on to outrage and fabricating malicious intent in viewpoints that might otherwise cause you to question your own.

Tbh, I considered before choosing that picture that one or two of you would respond this way ( considered that CDA might, but just jokingly). But then I thought, “nah...not after all of the dialogue about the other side being over-sensitive...”
This is why I’m comfortable on the side of reason and objectivity, just trying to figure out how to calm the waters and prepare for football season.

 

[dupuyer griz]

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Now you’re just being absurd. I wanted a meme about stubbornness due to each side not wanting to let go of the anger. Nothing I’ve posted has been in any way mean spirited. This photo is a joke made by a man, obviously.
If you’ve read anything other than levity, humor or a spirit of coming together for the sake of Griz Nation in any of my posts, that’s on you because it doesn’t exist.

Absurd is an interesting word, I find much of the world and people out there to be absurd. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Again I think the joke is hilarious, given the opportunity I would have done the spray painting. Just proving a point here.


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Don’t be so sure about that. Unless your point is that I’m right about both sides nitpicking, finding reason to hang on to outrage and fabricating malicious intent in viewpoints that might otherwise cause you to question your own.

Tbh, I considered before choosing that picture that one or two of you would respond this way ( considered that CDA might, but just jokingly). But then I thought, “nah...not after all of the dialogue about the other side being over-sensitive...”
This is why I’m comfortable on the side of reason and objectivity, just trying to figure out how to calm the waters and prepare for football season.

Once people stop thrashing and let the darkness take hold the waters tend to calm.


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[GGNez]

Now you’re just being absurd. I wanted a meme about stubbornness due to each side not wanting to let go of the anger. Nothing I’ve posted has been in any way mean spirited. This photo is a joke made by a man, obviously.
If you’ve read anything other than levity, humor or a spirit of coming together for the sake of Griz Nation in any of my posts, that’s on you because it doesn’t exist.

Absurd is an interesting word, I find much of the world and people out there to be absurd. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Again I think the joke is hilarious, given the opportunity I would have done the spray painting. Just proving a point here.


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Don’t be so sure about that. Unless your point is that I’m right about both sides nitpicking, finding reason to hang on to outrage and fabricating malicious intent in viewpoints that might otherwise cause you to question your own.

Tbh, I considered before choosing that picture that one or two of you would respond this way ( considered that CDA might, but just jokingly). But then I thought, “nah...not after all of the dialogue about the other side being over-sensitive...”
This is why I’m comfortable on the side of reason and objectivity, just trying to figure out how to calm the waters and prepare for football season.

Once people stop thrashing and let the darkness take hold the waters tend to calm.


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I concur. This is why we all need to stop giving others reason to keep thrashing.

 

[dupuyer griz]

Absurd is an interesting word, I find much of the world and people out there to be absurd. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Again I think the joke is hilarious, given the opportunity I would have done the spray painting. Just proving a point here.


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Don’t be so sure about that. Unless your point is that I’m right about both sides nitpicking, finding reason to hang on to outrage and fabricating malicious intent in viewpoints that might otherwise cause you to question your own.

Tbh, I considered before choosing that picture that one or two of you would respond this way ( considered that CDA might, but just jokingly). But then I thought, “nah...not after all of the dialogue about the other side being over-sensitive...”
This is why I’m comfortable on the side of reason and objectivity, just trying to figure out how to calm the waters and prepare for football season.

Once people stop thrashing and let the darkness take hold the waters tend to calm.


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I concur. This is why we all need to stop giving others reason to keep thrashing.

Yes, but if held just inches under the surface long enough...


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[GGNez]

Don’t be so sure about that. Unless your point is that I’m right about both sides nitpicking, finding reason to hang on to outrage and fabricating malicious intent in viewpoints that might otherwise cause you to question your own.

Tbh, I considered before choosing that picture that one or two of you would respond this way ( considered that CDA might, but just jokingly). But then I thought, “nah...not after all of the dialogue about the other side being over-sensitive...”
This is why I’m comfortable on the side of reason and objectivity, just trying to figure out how to calm the waters and prepare for football season.

Once people stop thrashing and let the darkness take hold the waters tend to calm.


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I concur. This is why we all need to stop giving others reason to keep thrashing.

Yes, but if held just inches under the surface long enough...


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:roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh....dupuyer....I really want this to work but I'm soooo....exhausted....

(cue the music)

♪♫ say something, I'm giving up on you...♪♫

 

[dupuyer griz]

Once people stop thrashing and let the darkness take hold the waters tend to calm.


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I concur. This is why we all need to stop giving others reason to keep thrashing.

Yes, but if held just inches under the surface long enough...


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[emoji57] [emoji57] [emoji57]

Oh....dupuyer....I really want this to work but I'm soooo....exhausted....

(cue the music)

♪♫ say something, I'm giving up on you...♪♫

Oh, music, I love music, might I recommend The Remedy by Puscifer. Totally ties into this. Please everyone, do yourself a favor, and listen to this song.
Sorry if this doesn’t work. https://youtu.be/HivxFBB87-Y


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[grizfnz]

I concur. This is why we all need to stop giving others reason to keep thrashing.

Yes, but if held just inches under the surface long enough...


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[emoji57] [emoji57] [emoji57]

Oh....dupuyer....I really want this to work but I'm soooo....exhausted....

(cue the music)

♪♫ say something, I'm giving up on you...♪♫

Oh, music, I love music, might I recommend The Remedy by Puscifer. Totally ties into this. Please everyone, do yourself a favor, and listen to this song.
Sorry if this doesn’t work. https://youtu.be/HivxFBB87-Y


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Maynard and crew could be a halfway decent Rush cover band


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[SoldierGriz]

Does this help anything? I've agreed with a lot of what you've written, and I've stayed silent on a lot of this stuff, but wholesale criticizing only men and posting a thread with this title doesn't advance the ball in the least. I don't want to get into a big thing, but I just don't believe telling people they are a part of the problem and posting man-hating memes serves your purpose, unless I'm wrong about your purpose.

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Fact.

 

[GGNez]

:lol:

Does this help anything? I've agreed with a lot of what you've written, and I've stayed silent on a lot of this stuff, but wholesale criticizing only men and posting a thread with this title doesn't advance the ball in the least. I don't want to get into a big thing, but I just don't believe telling people they are a part of the problem and posting man-hating memes serves your purpose, unless I'm wrong about your purpose.

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Fact.

:lol:

So much anger...so bitter...

At ease, soldier...a man spray painted a joke on a sign and a female Hauck supporter shared it.

You’ll be ok.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I haven't and I won't (at least I don't think I have). But it chaps my ass to see the massive double standard still firmly in place, where one party gets invited to the press conference with apologies all around, while the other party gets flamesprayed, called out on the carpet and threatened with banishment. He called her fat and published her address. She called BH a purveyor of the "rape culture" in a post filled with lies and half-truths.

Seriously, which is worse? :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's not a competition!

Both Ms. Davies and AlphaGriz were way out of line. But the impression that AlphaGriz's actions were slightly less douchey than Ms. Davies' doesn't mean that he's not a douchebag. The goal here shouldn't be to settle for being a 9.5 on the a-hole scale when someone else is a 10 just so you can say "Hey, at least I'm not as big of an a-hole as they are!"

I didn't say it was a competition. But ONE party is getting a gigantic PASS, while the other party is getting flamesprayed and threatened with banishment. Surely even you can see the difference?

Of course I can see the difference. Once again, I'll say I don't condone Lisa Davies actions. And for clarity's sake I suppose I need to add that I don't think she deserves to be given a pass on this - and I haven't indicated that at all. But neither of these things are the point I've been arguing, either. The point I've been arguing is that getting angry at her, calling her names, and publicly ridiculing and discrediting her isn't going to suddenly (or even eventually) turn the tide of public opinion in our favor. Surely even you can understand that?

Yes I can, and stop calling me Shirley.

 

[SoldierGriz]

:lol:

I thought of you when I posted this, CDA. I'm no man hater. I posted it because I thought it was funny....a nice follow-up to the north-going Zax and the south-going Zax. xoxo

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Fact.

:lol:

So much anger...so bitter...

At ease, soldier...a man spray painted a joke on a sign and a female Hauck supporter shared it.

You’ll be ok.

Anger and bitter....pot, kettle?

Now I am done with this. The point was made.

 

[GGNez]

:lol:

It could be argued that this is the same as what alpha did. Not saying it is, but it is anti-male an you think it’s funny. Again, I think it’s f***[*] hilarious, but change the words and ask our new friend on Twitter to make a sandwich then say your not anti-woman you just think it’s funny. The double standard is sickening.


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Fact.

:lol:

So much anger...so bitter...

At ease, soldier...a man spray painted a joke on a sign and a female Hauck supporter shared it.

You’ll be ok.

Anger and bitter....pot, kettle?

Now I am done with this. The point was made.

It definitely was.

 

[ordigger]

I'm still confused.

In the message board world of trolls, attention seekers, idiots, know it alls, agenda makers, naysayers, haters, sugarcoaters and 3 normal people, it would be hard to convince most of anything.- They are here to argue, whine, snivel, complain, fret, prove their point, make a joke, slam another, and stroke their ego, except for the 3 normal people. They post for enjoyment.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I'm still confused.

In the message board world of trolls, attention seekers, idiots, know it alls, agenda makers, naysayers, haters, sugarcoaters and 3 normal people, it would be hard to convince most of anything.- They are here to argue, whine, snivel, complain, fret, prove their point, make a joke, slam another, and stroke their ego, except for the 3 normal people. They post for enjoyment.

Well there’s me....and you....who’s the third?

 

[GGNez]

I'm still confused.

In the message board world of trolls, attention seekers, idiots, know it alls, agenda makers, naysayers, haters, sugarcoaters and 3 normal people, it would be hard to convince most of anything.- They are here to argue, whine, snivel, complain, fret, prove their point, make a joke, slam another, and stroke their ego, except for the 3 normal people. They post for enjoyment.

Well there’s me....and you....who’s the third?

Uhh...hello??

 

[ordigger]

I'm still confused.

In the message board world of trolls, attention seekers, idiots, know it alls, agenda makers, naysayers, haters, sugarcoaters and 3 normal people, it would be hard to convince most of anything.- They are here to argue, whine, snivel, complain, fret, prove their point, make a joke, slam another, and stroke their ego, except for the 3 normal people. They post for enjoyment.

Well there’s me....and you....who’s the third?

Uhh...hello??

I'm not normal. :lol:

 

[GGNez]

I'm still confused.

In the message board world of trolls, attention seekers, idiots, know it alls, agenda makers, naysayers, haters, sugarcoaters and 3 normal people, it would be hard to convince most of anything.- They are here to argue, whine, snivel, complain, fret, prove their point, make a joke, slam another, and stroke their ego, except for the 3 normal people. They post for enjoyment.

Well there’s me....and you....who’s the third?

Uhh...hello??

I'm not normal. :lol:

Normal is boring and overrated. You guys don’t have to agree with some of the things I say (or any of it) to admit that you’re glad that I showed up to the party.

 

[ordigger]

Well there’s me....and you....who’s the third?

Uhh...hello??

I'm not normal. :lol:

Normal is boring and overrated. You guys don’t have to agree with some of the things I say (or any of it) to admit that you’re glad that I showed up to the party.

Actually I've said some similar things in the past, and got some of the same comments from the same people. When you state your opinion, people really get bent out of shape. I just take it in stride now.