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Your new Grizzly OC will be...
- Thread starter BWahlberg
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Why does Montana recruit from within?
Is it because we love the "good old boy" network?
No, it's because, for what we pay our coaches, the only halfway decent applicant's we'll ever get will be from the inside.
Face it, folks, the world has completely passed us by in terms of coaching compensation. I mean, when the defensive coordinator at Oregon State makes three times what we pay our head coach, we're not going to be able to fish a very deep coaching pool.
The disparity was bad when we hired Bobby Hauck, and now it's way, way, way worse than that.
Is it because we love the "good old boy" network?
No, it's because, for what we pay our coaches, the only halfway decent applicant's we'll ever get will be from the inside.
Face it, folks, the world has completely passed us by in terms of coaching compensation. I mean, when the defensive coordinator at Oregon State makes three times what we pay our head coach, we're not going to be able to fish a very deep coaching pool.
The disparity was bad when we hired Bobby Hauck, and now it's way, way, way worse than that.
An O-line coach has it positives as stated, and experienced OC former ST coach could work as well.
Whoever is chosen has to ask the other for some help, and work together. It would be nice to see some SERIOUS TRAP plays,left or right the O-Line now has the mobility to pullit off, especially if we stick to the inside/bounce it out type of RB. I don't recall a TRAP play all season, at least a clean one. Always looked like PN and committee were doing a lot of work in those holes. As for a passing game, settle on one QB, get his footwork and reads together and make sure he and the WRs can READ the defense as ONE, that comes from doing film together, whether it's scheduled or after hours.
I think a different style of offense may give the Griz for 2013 a good clean look that the conference has to adjust too, whichever way they go, it will be good.
Whoever is chosen has to ask the other for some help, and work together. It would be nice to see some SERIOUS TRAP plays,left or right the O-Line now has the mobility to pullit off, especially if we stick to the inside/bounce it out type of RB. I don't recall a TRAP play all season, at least a clean one. Always looked like PN and committee were doing a lot of work in those holes. As for a passing game, settle on one QB, get his footwork and reads together and make sure he and the WRs can READ the defense as ONE, that comes from doing film together, whether it's scheduled or after hours.
I think a different style of offense may give the Griz for 2013 a good clean look that the conference has to adjust too, whichever way they go, it will be good.
wbtfg said:
Exactly. It's not just the coaches who are underpaid.
granitegriz
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Good approach and thinking Griz2k, sorry the answer didn't change.
Doesn't seem to bother the Regents one bit as tuition keeps rising faster than most everything else. So, essentially what we are saying is that staff are waaaaay underpaid and therefore students are getting an inferior product, but we'll keep raising tuition costs cause we have to make the bottom line. Looks like that's how this university is run!
OrgonGriz
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Wow! If true I too believe Scott G will be the next head coach. If this is the plan then freaking make it public. At least it would show some direction. MD coach for 2013 with Scott as Assitant coach and OC. Not saying I like it but man. This is really starting to show just how screwed this university is. I am no bandwagon fan but the way this crap keeps coming I may need to step away for a bit. Just makes me sick. I sure wish Dave D would see this as a good point to come back to UM to help correct things. Dave may just be the spark needed.
jbear said:
Tuition is rising because the state supplement to it is declining. Students need to make up more of the difference. I know this is hard to believe BUT its not hard to fill staff positions here nor is there often a direct link between how much money you throw at something and the results.
UM has been fortunate in the past to even be ranked as a tier 3 program by US News and World Report. As a student you've always had to choose a particular school curriculum that you found excelling above the many. Only Montana Tech and Carroll in their own private liberal arts and metalurgy categories have risen above UM's generally mundane ranking. This culture not surprisingly seems to extend to the administration... As a UM grad it is a most painful admission.
HighLineGRIZ
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OrgonGriz said:
Do what you want but our University and football program need our support more now than ever. It would be a real shame if fans just stopped supporting the team because of their own personal pride.
Gragg could be a candidate for HC next year and his chances will be predicated on how he performs in his coordinating role. I fully expect a national search for HC after Delaney's contract expires and the NCAA investigation is complete. We weren't going to get good OC candidates with where the program is right now. Fewer qualified coaches are going to jump in line to apply for a program during an investigation. Name me one hire that a program has hired a pernament coach during an investigation that has been sucessful. It's better for the long-term if you wait till everything is done and coaches know exactly what they are getting into. You want coaches that are in demand and have had success to apply. Those coaches aren't going to leave stable jobs right now to come here, but they will next year.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I see the reasoning for all the decisions that have been made thus far. If you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at the NCAA for dragging this out so long.
Raider said:
I did however I'm wondering if you know what that term means.
He is a lame duck coach by the fact that his contract is up (roughly) this time next year. He's not returning thus = lame duck. I'm not meaning to offend him, just stating what's known.
Definition of lame duck
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lame duck
1.outgoing officeholder: an elected officeholder left seemingly powerless after a successor has been elected but has not yet taken office
2.officeholder not running for reelection: an elected official who either will not or may not legally run for another term in office and has reduced power or effectiveness
wbtfg
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BWahlberg said:
If I'm interpreting correctly, I think Raider is saying that had Delaney not been promoted from interim coach and awarded a 2-year contract that UM would be in the process of hiring a new staff right now and wouldn't be "stuck" with a lame duck coach for the upcoming season.
If UM were interviewing potential candidates right now, fan excitement would be much higher than the current levels........which is far higher than MSU bball fans are experiencing right now.
Potomac Griz
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wbtfg said:
Definitely agree there.
Off topic...but I'm curious, is this Huse's last year on his contract or do you guys have to suffer through another year still?
I am not saying that you were necessarily bashing Mick. All I am say is that allot of folks, you included, thought it was a great idea to have Mick signed to an extended contract. Now everyone is lamenting our situation.
In fairness, nobody really predicted the disastrous season either that would follow either.
Hind sight…………
In fairness, nobody really predicted the disastrous season either that would follow either.
Hind sight…………
George Ferguson
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Oregongriz, Southern Oregon's got a great NAIA team for you to cheer for!
I think Lurch will continue to do an excellent job. I don't like the Co-coordinator thing at all. Whoever idea that was was dumb. I also think one other thing based on this promotion, and it's not Gragg for HC in 2014. It's that we're ASSUMING that Delaney will be done when his contract is up....He hasn't said in the last five months that he will for sure retire and Kent Haslam hasn't said that a new HC will need to be found. I would not be shocked in the least if Mick is actually still the HC in 2014.
I think Lurch will continue to do an excellent job. I don't like the Co-coordinator thing at all. Whoever idea that was was dumb. I also think one other thing based on this promotion, and it's not Gragg for HC in 2014. It's that we're ASSUMING that Delaney will be done when his contract is up....He hasn't said in the last five months that he will for sure retire and Kent Haslam hasn't said that a new HC will need to be found. I would not be shocked in the least if Mick is actually still the HC in 2014.
