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WTH is wrong w you guys

once it is determined that one is a bad fan, what is the decreed punishment??? your friend, yogi
 
yogi said:
once it is determined that one is a bad fan, what is the decreed punishment??? your friend, yogi

No set punishment. Usually, being a bad fan and being known as a bad fan, is enough punishment in itself.
 
putter said:
Why is it that people think if you criticize or have an opinion you are a bad fan? Now I agree you should never get personal about a player as they work their asses off, however, if a player has a bad game and someone says so how is that wrong? Montana fans pay a lot for tickets and have helped create, what Mike Cramer says, is the only SEC environment in the West so fans are vested in this program....monetarily and emotionally. Yes, this team is young and Stitt is only in his second year but having a fan base with high expectation keeps everyone on their toes...and that is a good thing.

Why do people who complain and criticize think they are anything other than a bad fan? Of course, some criticizing and complaining is fine. Of course, most opinions are fine.

What's your definition of "high expectations"?

I want the team to do well every year, win games, and advance to the playoffs, but if they don't, that's okay with me. Especially, when it's obvious that the team was working very hard at its goals, which every Griz team I've ever seen has done.

I don't understand how fans think they have or should have some big right or stake in the team or its success. HavGriz has written on this multiple times. To me, it's about the players and the coaches, and their families. No one wants to be successful more than they do. No one cares more. For me, I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything, nor do I feel that I should have any say in the program (other than getting to be a big mouth, usually supportive, on the internet; ha).
 
PlayerRep said:
I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything....

Couldn't agree more. Used to get pretty worked up about losses....now, I'm just glad I'm a fan of Montana and there's not a single other school (big or small) that I'd rather be a fan of. As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate what we've got, how special it is, and how fleeting it all is/could be...there's honestly not another school west of the Mississippi that's had the kind of sustained success Montana has had. No Pac-12 school. No MWC school. Boise State's "run" started in 1999. Oregon didn't get REALLY good until 2007...and they're gonna finish under .500 this year. An argument might be made for NDSU, but they've mixed in a 3-8, 2-8 and 6-5 seasons in their run. And that's not even considering the atmosphere advantage we have over all other schools.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. And no matter the outcome, I'm proud to call myself a Griz fan.
 
PlayerRep said:
putter said:
Why is it that people think if you criticize or have an opinion you are a bad fan? Now I agree you should never get personal about a player as they work their asses off, however, if a player has a bad game and someone says so how is that wrong? Montana fans pay a lot for tickets and have helped create, what Mike Cramer says, is the only SEC environment in the West so fans are vested in this program....monetarily and emotionally. Yes, this team is young and Stitt is only in his second year but having a fan base with high expectation keeps everyone on their toes...and that is a good thing.

Why do people who complain and criticize think they are anything other than a bad fan? Of course, some criticizing and complaining is fine. Of course, most opinions are fine.

What's your definition of "high expectations"?

I want the team to do well every year, win games, and advance to the playoffs, but if they don't, that's okay with me. Especially, when it's obvious that the team was working very hard at its goals, which every Griz team I've ever seen has done.

I don't understand how fans think they have or should have some big right or stake in the team or its success. HavGriz has written on this multiple times. To me, it's about the players and the coaches, and their families. No one wants to be successful more than they do. No one cares more. For me, I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything, nor do I feel that I should have any say in the program (other than getting to be a big mouth, usually supportive, on the internet; ha).


Couldn't have said it better myself
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything....

Couldn't agree more. Used to get pretty worked up about losses....now, I'm just glad I'm a fan of Montana and there's not a single other school (big or small) that I'd rather be a fan of. As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate what we've got, how special it is, and how fleeting it all is/could be...there's honestly not another school west of the Mississippi that's had the kind of sustained success Montana has had. No Pac-12 school. No MWC school. Boise State's "run" started in 1999. Oregon didn't get REALLY good until 2007...and they're gonna finish under .500 this year. An argument might be made for NDSU, but they've mixed in a 3-8, 2-8 and 6-5 seasons in their run. And that's not even considering the atmosphere advantage we have over all other schools.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. And no matter the outcome, I'm proud to call myself a Griz fan.

I agree with you too. Montana has been and is a very special program, and a stadium with a very special atmosphere. The streak of conference championships and deep playoff runs was absolutely incredible--and huge fun. NDSU has achieved a remarkable championship streak and has a great thing going now, but I wouldn't trade for it and give up what Montana had, has (even with a dip in recent years), and will have again in the future (I believe).
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything....

Couldn't agree more. Used to get pretty worked up about losses....now, I'm just glad I'm a fan of Montana and there's not a single other school (big or small) that I'd rather be a fan of. As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate what we've got, how special it is, and how fleeting it all is/could be...there's honestly not another school west of the Mississippi that's had the kind of sustained success Montana has had. No Pac-12 school. No MWC school. Boise State's "run" started in 1999. Oregon didn't get REALLY good until 2007...and they're gonna finish under .500 this year. An argument might be made for NDSU, but they've mixed in a 3-8, 2-8 and 6-5 seasons in their run. And that's not even considering the atmosphere advantage we have over all other schools.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. And no matter the outcome, I'm proud to call myself a Griz fan.

I agree with you too. Montana has been and is a very special program, and a stadium with a very special atmosphere. The streak of conference championships and deep playoff runs was absolutely incredible--and huge fun. NDSU has achieved a remarkable championship streak and has a great thing going now, but I wouldn't trade for it and give up what Montana had, has (even with a dip in recent years), and will have again in the future (I believe).

hugs. see, sometimes it takes a difference of opinion to bring out the best in us. we may have not made it to this warm and fuzzy place if we had not had these kinds of disconcerting threads since the EW loss.
i believe this has been happening all along.........folks expressing all sides to optimize a focus, so please do not fail to see this........ as well as what may appear to be the obvious.
 
zirge said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything....

Couldn't agree more. Used to get pretty worked up about losses....now, I'm just glad I'm a fan of Montana and there's not a single other school (big or small) that I'd rather be a fan of. As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate what we've got, how special it is, and how fleeting it all is/could be...there's honestly not another school west of the Mississippi that's had the kind of sustained success Montana has had. No Pac-12 school. No MWC school. Boise State's "run" started in 1999. Oregon didn't get REALLY good until 2007...and they're gonna finish under .500 this year. An argument might be made for NDSU, but they've mixed in a 3-8, 2-8 and 6-5 seasons in their run. And that's not even considering the atmosphere advantage we have over all other schools.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. And no matter the outcome, I'm proud to call myself a Griz fan.

I agree with you too. Montana has been and is a very special program, and a stadium with a very special atmosphere. The streak of conference championships and deep playoff runs was absolutely incredible--and huge fun. NDSU has achieved a remarkable championship streak and has a great thing going now, but I wouldn't trade for it and give up what Montana had, has (even with a dip in recent years), and will have again in the future (I believe).

hugs. see, sometimes it takes a difference of opinion to bring out the best in us. we may have not made it to this warm and fuzzy place if we had not had these kinds of disconcerting threads since the EW loss.
i believe this has been happening all along.........folks expressing all sides to optimize a focus, so please do not fail to see this........ as well as what may appear to be the obvious.

all that being said, I think our offense is in shambles, our defense is underperforming and our coaching staff needs to be drawn and quartered. 8-) :D
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
In other words, people need to quit criticizing the uniforms. #badfans

Shit. I KNEW there was something I was forgetting.

Get RID of the all-white look! We look slow and plodding...like Penn Fricking State for God's sake... :twisted: :twisted:
 
I have yet to post in this thread because I was unsure of the answer, so I asked my wife her thougthts.

She's still listing items....
 
au contrair, on the uniforms: the all white makes us look sleek and fast; the white top with maroon bottoms makes us look slow, plodding, ungainly and fat; your friend, yogi
 
All you guys are funny. I get a giggle everyday coming on here and reading the comments, opinions, bullshit, whatever you want to call it. And, the reason is because I'm a diehard Griz fan just like all the rest of you. If we weren't we wouldn't even know what the shit this site was.
 
daGrizJ said:
All you guys are funny. I get a giggle everyday coming on here ...
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zirge said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I'm just happy to be able to watch and enjoy the team, and be excited for the success. I may be a bit somber briefly about their lack of success, but a few beers and a good nights sleep and I'm looking forward to the next game or the next season. I feel fortunate to be a fan of a great program like Montana. I am happy to support the team and program in any way I can. I don't feel the program owes me anything....

Couldn't agree more. Used to get pretty worked up about losses....now, I'm just glad I'm a fan of Montana and there's not a single other school (big or small) that I'd rather be a fan of. As I've gotten older I've learned to appreciate what we've got, how special it is, and how fleeting it all is/could be...there's honestly not another school west of the Mississippi that's had the kind of sustained success Montana has had. No Pac-12 school. No MWC school. Boise State's "run" started in 1999. Oregon didn't get REALLY good until 2007...and they're gonna finish under .500 this year. An argument might be made for NDSU, but they've mixed in a 3-8, 2-8 and 6-5 seasons in their run. And that's not even considering the atmosphere advantage we have over all other schools.

I wouldn't trade it for the world. And no matter the outcome, I'm proud to call myself a Griz fan.

I agree with you too. Montana has been and is a very special program, and a stadium with a very special atmosphere. The streak of conference championships and deep playoff runs was absolutely incredible--and huge fun. NDSU has achieved a remarkable championship streak and has a great thing going now, but I wouldn't trade for it and give up what Montana had, has (even with a dip in recent years), and will have again in the future (I believe).

hugs. see, sometimes it takes a difference of opinion to bring out the best in us. we may have not made it to this warm and fuzzy place if we had not had these kinds of disconcerting threads since the EW loss.
i believe this has been happening all along.........folks expressing all sides to optimize a focus, so please do not fail to see this........ as well as what may appear to be the obvious.

It's from Stitt's leadership. The offense and defense now hug and luv each other. Now the good and bad fans hug each other. Who knows where this could end up.
 
show me any fan that has not criticized or critiqued his or her team and I will show you a a person who is not a fan at all....it's what fans do.....
 
krammer said:
show me any fan that has not criticized or critiqued his or her team and I will show you a a person who is not a fan at all....it's what fans do.....

No, it isn't. That comment had "bad fan" written all over it.
 
hmmmm...
I don't post here often but this good fan bad fan crap really upsets me. I am a rose colored glasses person. I think my teams are gonna win their respective titles every year. but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to notice when something is wrong. as a broncos fan was I suppose to be ok with josh mcdaniels ruining my team? yes he knows way more about football than I do but it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't good at it. I was not cheering for the broncos to lose but I wanted a change for what wasn't working. being the second worst team in the nfl I was not gonna sit there and say this is great... no I am not the one qualified to make those decisions, but why cant I speculate what I think will work. I also would never look down on these kids for playing poorly. I will point it out and say it should be better. if they don't want to be criticized they don't have to take the scholarship. now I think im how I am a fan is good but I cant really say how everybody else should be a fan. ill be a fan how I think is good and you can do the same for yourself, just don't tell me how to I should be a fan.
 
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