Worst call in BSC officiating history?

[CDAGRIZ]

This argument is getting pretty stupid. Ok, I will concede that maybe I was a wee bit too wordy with my comment throwing the work "humanly" in there. Certainly if you don't exercise a bit or caution you are risking injury to self or the other player. That is not what I was suggesting. If you have a free shot on the QB with a few steps, you get going as fast as you can, hit as hard as you can, wrap up and drive through. You want him to feel it and get rattled, period.

Thanks for the lesson, Sack Lodge. I'll keep that in mind next time I'm playing tackle football as an adult.

 

[poorgriz]

Hmmm. Well if there was ever any defensive player on any college football team, in the history of the world, that wasn't wanting someone on his team to get to the QB and hit him as hard as humanly possible - that player should be kicked off the team because football obviously isn't his game. God you guys sound like pussies sometimes.

I played college football, and don't know many players who wanted his teammates to hit the qb as hard as humanly possible. Get to the qb, yes. Make a legitimate hit, yes. But hit the qb as hard as humanly possible, nope. Qb's are vulnerable. Never wanted an opposing qb to get hurt. Felt bad when they did get hurt.

Are you shitting me? So back in the Ivy glory days let's say you came in on a corner blitz and had a free shot on the QB...... are you saying you would ease up and just hit him hard enough to tackle him? Wow. That's certainly not how I was taught to play the game and it certainly wasn't how I played the game. Of course I'm only speaking from the perspective of MT Class A varsity football, so not nearly at a high level. :lol:

What are you talking about? The discussion was about "hitting a qb as hard as humanly possible"--not "easing up" or "hitting just hard enough to tackle him". I always tackled hard, whether in football or rugby, and was considered a hard hitter. I'd still be happy to show you how well I could tackle you (but only with narrow cones). However, I never tried to hit a qb, especially if hung up and vulnerable, as hard as humanly possible. I just tried to make a good tackle, and make sure I brought down the qb and kept him from throwing if I could. I had more respect for the game than trying to hit someone as hard as humanly possible and take them out of a game. Winning was always important, but how one played the game was equally important to me. I generally believe that win-at-all-costs people are a-holes.

One last question on this. Does it look to you like Keith Thompson hit the App receiver as hard as humanly possible? Were you disappointed in how violent that hit was?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I think we can all agree that if that hit were to happen in the NFL...a 5 minute brawl would have taken place...and rightly so...I was discouraged with the lack of reaction by our O lineman...ya they pushed the guy around...But if someone takes a shot like that on your QB and your the biggest man on the field...you fucking pick him up and body slam the son of a bitch...no questions asked....our O Line is not MEAN...we need some DOLA

 

[PlayerRep]

I played college football, and don't know many players who wanted his teammates to hit the qb as hard as humanly possible. Get to the qb, yes. Make a legitimate hit, yes. But hit the qb as hard as humanly possible, nope. Qb's are vulnerable. Never wanted an opposing qb to get hurt. Felt bad when they did get hurt.

Are you shitting me? So back in the Ivy glory days let's say you came in on a corner blitz and had a free shot on the QB...... are you saying you would ease up and just hit him hard enough to tackle him? Wow. That's certainly not how I was taught to play the game and it certainly wasn't how I played the game. Of course I'm only speaking from the perspective of MT Class A varsity football, so not nearly at a high level. :lol:

What are you talking about? The discussion was about "hitting a qb as hard as humanly possible"--not "easing up" or "hitting just hard enough to tackle him". I always tackled hard, whether in football or rugby, and was considered a hard hitter. I'd still be happy to show you how well I could tackle you (but only with narrow cones). However, I never tried to hit a qb, especially if hung up and vulnerable, as hard as humanly possible. I just tried to make a good tackle, and make sure I brought down the qb and kept him from throwing if I could. I had more respect for the game than trying to hit someone as hard as humanly possible and take them out of a game. Winning was always important, but how one played the game was equally important to me. I generally believe that win-at-all-costs people are a-holes.

One last question on this. Does it look to you like Keith Thompson hit the App receiver as hard as humanly possible? Were you disappointed in how violent that hit was?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A quarterback is not a receiver.

 

[mlbowl]

One last question on this. Does it look to you like Keith Thompson hit the App receiver as hard as humanly possible? Were you disappointed in how violent that hit was?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How hard he was hit is not the issue. How would you feel if prukop was leveled after a dead ball, delay of game penalty? My guess is you would not have this same punk ass attitude. :roll:

 

[Sea Bass]

I played college football, and don't know many players who wanted his teammates to hit the qb as hard as humanly possible. Get to the qb, yes. Make a legitimate hit, yes. But hit the qb as hard as humanly possible, nope. Qb's are vulnerable. Never wanted an opposing qb to get hurt. Felt bad when they did get hurt.

Are you shitting me? So back in the Ivy glory days let's say you came in on a corner blitz and had a free shot on the QB...... are you saying you would ease up and just hit him hard enough to tackle him? Wow. That's certainly not how I was taught to play the game and it certainly wasn't how I played the game. Of course I'm only speaking from the perspective of MT Class A varsity football, so not nearly at a high level. :lol:

What are you talking about? The discussion was about "hitting a qb as hard as humanly possible"--not "easing up" or "hitting just hard enough to tackle him". I always tackled hard, whether in football or rugby, and was considered a hard hitter. I'd still be happy to show you how well I could tackle you (but only with narrow cones). However, I never tried to hit a qb, especially if hung up and vulnerable, as hard as humanly possible. I just tried to make a good tackle, and make sure I brought down the qb and kept him from throwing if I could. I had more respect for the game than trying to hit someone as hard as humanly possible and take them out of a game. Winning was always important, but how one played the game was equally important to me. I generally believe that win-at-all-costs people are a-holes.

One last question on this. Does it look to you like Keith Thompson hit the App receiver as hard as humanly possible? Were you disappointed in how violent that hit was?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apples and oranges poorgriz, apples and oranges.

 

[Will C]

I think we can all agree that if that hit were to happen in the NFL...a 5 minute brawl would have taken place...and rightly so...I was discouraged with the lack of reaction by our O lineman...ya they pushed the guy around...But if someone takes a shot like that on your QB and your the biggest man on the field...you f***[*] pick him up and body slam the son of a bitch...no questions asked....our O Line is not MEAN...we need some DOLA

+1

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Which is more important: attitude or execution?

 

[ranco]

I think we can all agree that if that hit were to happen in the NFL...a 5 minute brawl would have taken place...and rightly so...I was discouraged with the lack of reaction by our O lineman...ya they pushed the guy around...But if someone takes a shot like that on your QB and your the biggest man on the field...you f***[*] pick him up and body slam the son of a bitch...no questions asked....our O Line is not MEAN...we need some DOLA

+1

+100 I mentioned that before. still can't believe we didn't have more of a response.

 

[Rich W]

 

[get'em_griz]

I wanna know who the refs were for the 2009 App State semifinal game... Those refs were great! Seriously, I recall only a select few flags that were thrown in that one, all legitimate penalties on both sides. Those guys let Montana and App State play the game, and threw the flags when necessary. A good ref is one that goes unnoticed... I want those refs in the Big Sky.

 

[Ursa Major]

Not to screw with the preferred reality here but after watching the video of the game it looked like the second injury JJ suffered to his ankle was on the play that he first tripped over David Reese's foot or when David Reese was pancaked and landed on JJ.

Sorry!

 

[Sea Bass]

Not to screw with the preferred reality here but after watching the video of the game it looked like the second injury JJ suffered to his ankle was on the play that he first tripped over David Reese's foot or when David Reese was pancaked and landed on JJ.

Sorry!

I guess that's possible but I never saw him limping around until the late hit when he was writhing in pain on the ground holding his ankle.....

Whoops, edit. I read your post wrong sorry. After reading it again, I'm not sure what you're talking about actually. I don't think anyone said JJ was hurt immediately after the dead ball "didn't hear the whistle" play if that's what you mean.

 

[Ursa Major]

Not to screw with the preferred reality here but after watching the video of the game it looked like the second injury JJ suffered to his ankle was on the play that he first tripped over David Reese's foot or when David Reese was pancaked and landed on JJ.

Sorry!

I guess that's possible but I never saw him limping around until the late hit when he was writhing in pain on the ground holding his ankle.

I didn't either, SB! This isn't about the initial injury. I just think he hurt it worse on the play I described. I'm sure many of us have shaken off an initial injury and played through it only to be hurt worse later. I do this frequently with alcohol and women.

 

[Umista]

Scats similar to poorgriz should consider posting on the msu board. Trolls with his limited vision and education would fit right on the aforementioned location!

The call simply rates right with most bad calls. Refs need a lesson regarding the 101 school of officiating.

 

[dupuyer griz]

Are you shitting me? So back in the Ivy glory days let's say you came in on a corner blitz and had a free shot on the QB...... are you saying you would ease up and just hit him hard enough to tackle him? Wow. That's certainly not how I was taught to play the game and it certainly wasn't how I played the game. Of course I'm only speaking from the perspective of MT Class A varsity football, so not nearly at a high level. :lol:

What are you talking about? The discussion was about "hitting a qb as hard as humanly possible"--not "easing up" or "hitting just hard enough to tackle him". I always tackled hard, whether in football or rugby, and was considered a hard hitter. I'd still be happy to show you how well I could tackle you (but only with narrow cones). However, I never tried to hit a qb, especially if hung up and vulnerable, as hard as humanly possible. I just tried to make a good tackle, and make sure I brought down the qb and kept him from throwing if I could. I had more respect for the game than trying to hit someone as hard as humanly possible and take them out of a game. Winning was always important, but how one played the game was equally important to me. I generally believe that win-at-all-costs people are a-holes.

One last question on this. Does it look to you like Keith Thompson hit the App receiver as hard as humanly possible? Were you disappointed in how violent that hit was?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgu7GtFhGY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A quarterback is not a receiver.

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[zengriz]

Which is more important: attitude or execution?

...passion...

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[reinell30]

Which is more important: attitude or execution?

...passion...

... ...

Heart, lots of Heart!

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Which is more important: attitude or execution?

...passion...

... ...

Heart, miles and miles of Heart!

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