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[SoldierGriz]

I think people overreact to things like this a little too hard.

Pretty much this same SDSU team that was without basically just their QB got boat raced in Bozeman last season, and a ton of Jacks fans were lamenting their slide, saying they'd never get back to the championship game again.

We've got some work to do, but I don't think it's as far off as people think. Teams change a lot from year to year, despite what NDSU has conditioned us to think.

Will we get there? I don't know, but all it could take is a few pieces and the team finding its stride at the right time. If you want to simply believe it's impossible, though, I'm not gonna stop you from pissing in your own cheerios. :thumb: :lol:

Of course you do; it's your shtick.

 

[uofmman1122]

I think people overreact to things like this a little too hard.

Pretty much this same SDSU team that was without basically just their QB got boat raced in Bozeman last season, and a ton of Jacks fans were lamenting their slide, saying they'd never get back to the championship game again.

We've got some work to do, but I don't think it's as far off as people think. Teams change a lot from year to year, despite what NDSU has conditioned us to think.

Will we get there? I don't know, but all it could take is a few pieces and the team finding its stride at the right time. If you want to simply believe it's impossible, though, I'm not gonna stop you from pissing in your own cheerios. :thumb: :lol:

Of course you do; it's your shtick.

You're right, I mean how often do we see people overreact on eGriz? :lol:

 

[kemajic]

I think people overreact to things like this a little too hard.

Pretty much this same SDSU team that was without basically just their QB got boat raced in Bozeman last season, and a ton of Jacks fans were lamenting their slide, saying they'd never get back to the championship game again.

We've got some work to do, but I don't think it's as far off as people think. Teams change a lot from year to year, despite what NDSU has conditioned us to think.

Will we get there? I don't know, but all it could take is a few pieces and the team finding its stride at the right time. If you want to simply believe it's impossible, though, I'm not gonna stop you from pissing in your own cheerios. :thumb: :lol:

Agree, if we had Gronowski at the helm here, we would have had a pretty good season.

 

[uptopgriz]

Hilarious. I was on the field for the game at NDSU. It was men against boys and I’m not talking just the players. The game wasn’t close, period. Hauck and his geriatric unit are more concerned about finding next hatch, than building a program that can compete at elite levels.

It was a 1 pt game into 3d Q when the back up couldn’t move team and threw 2 picks. I don’t believe you were on sideline.

The game wasn't even close. The piss pounding you saw in the second half was a result of physical beating we took in the first half from the weakest NDSU team in 10-years. And, as you mentioned, the coaches failed once again to have a backup qb ready to go, not to mention an o-line that could keep Johnson from getting knocked out of another game.

 

[mthoopsfan]

It was a 1 pt game into 3d Q when the back up couldn’t move team and threw 2 picks. I don’t believe you were on sideline.

The game wasn't even close. The piss pounding you saw in the second half was a result of physical beating we took in the first half from the weakest NDSU team in 10-years. And, as you mentioned, the coaches failed once again to have a backup qb ready to go, not to mention an o-line that could keep Johnson from getting knocked out of another game.

The game was close when it was a 1 point game in 3d quarter and before the backup produced no offense and 2 picks.

 

[uptopgriz]

The game wasn't even close. The piss pounding you saw in the second half was a result of physical beating we took in the first half from the weakest NDSU team in 10-years. And, as you mentioned, the coaches failed once again to have a backup qb ready to go, not to mention an o-line that could keep Johnson from getting knocked out of another game.

The game was close when it was a 1 point game in 3d quarter and before the backup produced no offense and 2 picks.

Sorry, was an ass-kicking. The Griz coaches failed to have a plan to produce an effective offense or stop multiple big plays. Worst NDSU team in a decade and they stomped us into the ground.

 

[mthoopsfan]

The game was close when it was a 1 point game in 3d quarter and before the backup produced no offense and 2 picks.

Sorry, was an ass-kicking. The Griz coaches failed to have a plan to produce an effective offense or stop multiple big plays. Worst NDSU team in a decade and they stomped us into the ground.

NDSU was the 2d best team in FCS. No matter what you say or make up, the game was close into the 3d quarter. Then NDSU got away.

 

[griznative24]

Bobby knows how far his team is behind...this chipper is telling.

NC will sadly not happen with him at the helm.

Bookmark this post.

Griz aren’t far behind with healthy qb. Bookmark this post.

LOL I'm sorry but what makes you say that. The O line is mediocre, the recievers mediocre, the qb situation is clouded at best, and the defense has a habit of giving up big plays to good teams. The Griz running backs are elite, but that doesn't make up for everything else.

 

[uptopgriz]

Sorry, was an ass-kicking. The Griz coaches failed to have a plan to produce an effective offense or stop multiple big plays. Worst NDSU team in a decade and they stomped us into the ground.

NDSU was the 2d best team in FCS. No matter what you say or make up, the game was close into the 3d quarter. Then NDSU got away.

The Cats were the second best team in FCS. This was the weakest NDSU team in 10 years.

 

[Spanky2]

NDSU was the 2d best team in FCS. No matter what you say or make up, the game was close into the 3d quarter. Then NDSU got away.

The Cats were the second best team in FCS. This was the weakest NDSU team in 10 years.

I don’t think so. Recall how the cold brought out the quit in them during the SDS game.

 

[birdieman]

NDSU was the 2d best team in FCS. No matter what you say or make up, the game was close into the 3d quarter. Then NDSU got away.

The Cats were the second best team in FCS. This was the weakest NDSU team in 10 years.

Man I wish you kitty trolls would go back to your own Board... Same narrative here every day..

 

[garizzalies]

The Cats were the second best team in FCS.

Obvious cat troll is obvious.

 

[Bok_Choi]

What I wonder is if Hauck is done buying his own BS? And is a rearranging of the deck chairs all the change we're going to see? I'd hope not. But not holding my breath.

So let me take a moment to recount and important bit of history - the Rosenbach saga. You know, the guy who needs to be replaced in the opinion of many on this board. I can recall him being hailed as a genius early on, and I would say deservedly so, because of the struggles they were having finding enough guys to play o-line. Week in and out, they had stuff dialed up that played to the strengths of a host of contributors, like Sneed, Akem, Toure, Curran, Sulser, & JLM. And as you may recall, they moved a couple of receivers to the other side of the ball to field a defense. Calhoun was a better than average receiver. But they were thin at running back for much of the season, which is why Sneeds legs were so vital. That offense was anything but boring.

Flash forward to 2022, and the offense is inside zone running (with a pretty good stable of backs for a change), as Kem would put it - "pillow fight blocking scheme" (three transfer linemen starting - all from P5 schools), a quarterback who could create with his legs - when healthy, and passes to the sidelines. You'd think the TE's were getting hate mail, for all the looks they were getting collectively. I think we all lament the lack of touches for star players like Bergen & Grossman. But the ball goes where it goes, in an offense that lacked even the slightest creativity. And no, Bergen running the wildcat after bozemen decimated the Weebs defense running outside zone the week prior, isn't what I would call creative. Bobby decided that the defense and specials would carry the day. That's where the stars were.

Anyone want to venture a guess as to what might be missing? For me, I know Rosenbach didn't forget how the game is played or how to coach it. Nor do I think its a savior quarterback find or a backup for that matter. Nonetheless, something was definitely missing.

 

[HookedonGriz]

What I wonder is if Hauck is done buying his own BS? And is a rearranging of the deck chairs all the change we're going to see? I'd hope not. But not holding my breath.

So let me take a moment to recount and important bit of history - the Rosenbach saga. You know, the guy who needs to be replaced in the opinion of many on this board. I can recall him being hailed as a genius early on, and I would say deservedly so, because of the struggles they were having finding enough guys to play o-line. Week in and out, they had stuff dialed up that played to the strengths of a host of contributors, like Sneed, Akem, Toure, Curran, Sulser, & JLM. And as you may recall, they moved a couple of receivers to the other side of the ball to field a defense. Calhoun was a better than average receiver. But they were thin at running back for much of the season, which is why Sneeds legs were so vital. That offense was anything but boring.

Flash forward to 2022, and the offense is inside zone running (with a pretty good stable of backs for a change), as Kem would put it - "pillow fight blocking scheme" (three transfer linemen starting - all from P5 schools), a quarterback who could create with his legs - when healthy, and passes to the sidelines. You'd think the TE's were getting hate mail, for all the looks they were getting collectively. I think we all lament the lack of touches for star players like Bergen & Grossman. But the ball goes where it goes, in an offense that lacked even the slightest creativity. And no, Bergen running the wildcat after bozemen decimated the Weebs defense running outside zone the week prior, isn't what I would call creative. Bobby decided that the defense and specials would carry the day. That's where the stars were.

Anyone want to venture a guess as to what might be missing? For me, I know Rosenbach didn't forget how the game is played or how to coach it. Nor do I think its a savior quarterback find or a backup for that matter. Nonetheless, something was definitely missing.

I’m 99% sure Rosie is done as OC. I’m not sure if Pease being OC makes us way better though. I’ll wait and see there. He has had a lot of experience in that role.

 

[uofmman1122]

You’re definitely not wrong. It feels like something changed after the pandemic, which I originally chalked up to worse QB play, but it seems to have carried over even after 2021. I don’t think it was simply Bobby deciding we’re going to be less creative and do worse on purpose, though. That doesn’t make sense.

Whatever it is, I’m hoping these changes (whatever they are) get them back to being creative again. Their jobs likely depend on it.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You’re definitely not wrong. It feels like something changed after the pandemic, which I originally chalked up to worse QB play, but it seems to have carried over even after 2021. I don’t think it was simply Bobby deciding we’re going to be less creative and do worse on purpose, though. That doesn’t make sense.

Whatever it is, I’m hoping these changes (whatever they are) get them back to being creative again. Their jobs likely depend on it.

When Johnson was fully healthy, and could run, the offense was usually more dynamic.

 

[Bok_Choi]

You’re definitely not wrong. It feels like something changed after the pandemic, which I originally chalked up to worse QB play, but it seems to have carried over even after 2021. I don’t think it was simply Bobby deciding we’re going to be less creative and do worse on purpose, though. That doesn’t make sense.

Whatever it is, I’m hoping these changes (whatever they are) get them back to being creative again. Their jobs likely depend on it.

I think the reason will come to you eventually. And no, I'm not intimating that Bobby decided they'd struggle on offense. I just think Rosenbach played the cards dealt, not like he had any other choice. I don't think it's a stretch to belive Bobby was all-in on the defense being transcendent. All the stars are there. If the specials contributed and the offense was average & didn't turn it over, they would achieve their goals.

I don't know that 2023 forebodes any peril for Hauck & Co. Not unless they collapse completely. Five new BSC coaches and I don't see an Eck in the bunch, means it will be difficult not to better sixth place in the conference. No Weebs on the schedule, bozeman, Davis and the Spuds are the tests. A favorable schedule likely gets them in the playoffs and unfortunately, a contract extension.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Griz aren’t far behind with healthy qb. Bookmark this post.

LOL I'm sorry but what makes you say that. The O line is mediocre, the recievers mediocre, the qb situation is clouded at best, and the defense has a habit of giving up big plays to good teams. The Griz running backs are elite, but that doesn't make up for everything else.

The o-line is not mediocre. It varied between good and pretty good, with a couple weaker games. It had 2 all-conference players, both of whom return. It has lots of good young players. A good transfer is coming. 3 frosh were signed so far. It will be better next year. Receivers are better than mediocre, but need to be better. QB situation is looking pretty good to me. The Griz D wasn't as consistently good late in the season, but really only played poorly against Cats and NDSU.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You’re definitely not wrong. It feels like something changed after the pandemic, which I originally chalked up to worse QB play, but it seems to have carried over even after 2021. I don’t think it was simply Bobby deciding we’re going to be less creative and do worse on purpose, though. That doesn’t make sense.

Whatever it is, I’m hoping these changes (whatever they are) get them back to being creative again. Their jobs likely depend on it.

I think the reason will come to you eventually. And no, I'm not intimating that Bobby decided they'd struggle on offense. I just think Rosenbach played the cards dealt, not like he had any other choice. I don't think it's a stretch to belive Bobby was all-in on the defense being transcendent. All the stars are there. If the specials contributed and the offense was average & didn't turn it over, they would achieve their goals.

I don't know that 2023 forebodes any peril for Hauck & Co. Not unless they collapse completely. Five new BSC coaches and I don't see an Eck in the bunch, means it will be difficult not to better sixth place in the conference. No Weebs on the schedule, bozeman, Davis and the Spuds are the tests. A favorable schedule likely gets them in the playoffs and unfortunately, a contract extension.

My analysis indicates that the UM special teams were the best in FCS. I'll type up my notes when I get a chance.

 

[gotgame75]

What I wonder is if Hauck is done buying his own BS? And is a rearranging of the deck chairs all the change we're going to see? I'd hope not. But not holding my breath.

So let me take a moment to recount and important bit of history - the Rosenbach saga. You know, the guy who needs to be replaced in the opinion of many on this board. I can recall him being hailed as a genius early on, and I would say deservedly so, because of the struggles they were having finding enough guys to play o-line. Week in and out, they had stuff dialed up that played to the strengths of a host of contributors, like Sneed, Akem, Toure, Curran, Sulser, & JLM. And as you may recall, they moved a couple of receivers to the other side of the ball to field a defense. Calhoun was a better than average receiver. But they were thin at running back for much of the season, which is why Sneeds legs were so vital. That offense was anything but boring.

Flash forward to 2022, and the offense is inside zone running (with a pretty good stable of backs for a change), as Kem would put it - "pillow fight blocking scheme" (three transfer linemen starting - all from P5 schools), a quarterback who could create with his legs - when healthy, and passes to the sidelines. You'd think the TE's were getting hate mail, for all the looks they were getting collectively. I think we all lament the lack of touches for star players like Bergen & Grossman. But the ball goes where it goes, in an offense that lacked even the slightest creativity. And no, Bergen running the wildcat after bozemen decimated the Weebs defense running outside zone the week prior, isn't what I would call creative. Bobby decided that the defense and specials would carry the day. That's where the stars were.

Anyone want to venture a guess as to what might be missing? For me, I know Rosenbach didn't forget how the game is played or how to coach it. Nor do I think its a savior quarterback find or a backup for that matter. Nonetheless, something was definitely missing.

I’m 99% sure Rosie is done as OC. I’m not sure if Pease being OC makes us way better though. I’ll wait and see there. He has had a lot of experience in that role.

If Pease is the answer at OC, then why, with all his priceless experience, has he been languishing as a receivers coach at a middle of the road Big Sky program for 4 seasons?

Look at Pease's career arc. It happened for a reason. The dude has been known for well over a decade as an arrogant prick who routinely burns bridges and loves verbally abusing his players.