WIU Will Reveal A Lot About Our Passing Game

[CDAGRIZ]

I don’t care how many yards he throws for. If he throws for 150 and 3 TD’s, I’m good. If he throws for 375 and 0 TD’s, not so good, typically. All we have to go on is his body of work to date (which I posted in my original post on this topic) but which you choose to minimize or dismiss. If Bobby REALLY wants to win, do you suppose he might already be putting the most effective players on the field, in his expert opinion?

I could reveal something I have heard from the father of a WR at fall practice, and from a golfing buddy very close to the program, but will not. Enough said.

I, too, know many things that I choose not to share. Really interesting things about the program. If they don't happen, it won't matter because I didn't share them. If they do happen, then I'll let you guys know that I knew well ahead of time. One quick example is that I knew UM would win against UW, but I chose not to share it publicly in case we lost. All I will say about the other things I know that none of you know is: look for some footballs being passed, carried, and kicked on Saturday. That's all I will say.

 

[Yukon]

Apparently not.

Did you make a football post in this thread? I must of missed it.

Yes, keep looking.

 

[PhxGriz]

AZ is already a member of the Club. Says so right under his name.

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You would know. Was he required to go though the typical hell week process, including a donation of three tubes of KY jelly???

Can't speak to the initiation you're referring to, but he did pass this one.

https://youtu.be/XXtQMz1RGNw

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Translation: Az, that argument doesn't count because it doesn't follow my narrative. People are free to post, but only if it will reinforce my narrative.

Says the guy who never posts anything about football. <YAWN>

Says the guy that has, what, 5 or 6 times more non-football posts in this thread than football posts. I won't even mention the multiple personal attacks on other posters.

 

[Mavman]

Back to my concerns
1. can the RBs help in pass pro / down to fourth string and less experience.
2. will the TE's be forced to stay in to pass protect or will they be a big part of the passing game catching passes?

Hopefully some hefty passing yards early and some cam scrambles will take them out of stacking the box.

 

[Yukon]

Watching the WIU/Ball ST game now and I feel pretty good about the game coming this Saturday night. I think the Griz WR's and TE's are going to have a day. I also feel good about the run game after the Washington game.

 

[grizpsych]

Another thought. When has a Bobby Hauck team ever been a pass first team?

He has never been a pass-first coach. He wants a balanced attack. But we have been able to run the ball in his first three years here. Maybe our improved O-line will finally allow for "Bobby Ball", but we have not had enough snaps to prove that point yet. We'll have more answers in 2-3 more weeks.

Honestly, my original post was made from the bias of a fan that remembers the days of Don Read. Man do I remember when people like me freaked out about Hauck. However, I now think Hauck runs whatever offensive program best fits his team--and he does a good job. So, I suspect we will see mostly runs in the first half of our next game. If the few passes in the first half succeed, I figure he will transfer to a more balanced or a pass first offense. Then he will continue this process onto the next games for the rest of the year. If somehow our defense falters somewhere throughout the year, he may adopt a more rigorous approach to the offense. But, defense wins championships--and we have a great one this year!

 

[putter]

Given there was multiple pancake blocks against UW, I think they will be just fine and wont need Cam to put the entire team on his shoulders.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

I've read all these posts. And I like Humphrey a lot. He's a 5th year SR that is going to lead a loaded to team far this season.

But let's not forget it hasn't been all roses for Humphrey (it never is for a QB).

Humphrey started the 2019 game versus Idaho for an injured Dalton Sneed. Humphrey was a turnover machine in that 1st quarter with 2 interceptions (there was also a fumble turnover) that had the Griz down 10-0. Humphrey was benched and entered Dalton Sneed to lead us to a dominate win from there versus Idaho.

Humphrey won't be facing secondaries with more than one sure-thing NFL defensive backs on the unit like they did at UW. UM receivers (Akem) won't be locked down as much going forward. Passing game should be good.

I am astonished how well the UM played at UW. There was talk, for years, about improvement; they finally delivered.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I've read all these posts. And I like Humphrey a lot. He's a 5th year SR that is going to lead a loaded to team far this season.

But let's not forget it hasn't been all roses for Humphrey (it never is for a QB).

Humphrey started the 2019 game versus Idaho for an injured Dalton Sneed. Humphrey was a turnover machine in that 1st quarter with 2 interceptions (there was also a fumble turnover) that had the Griz down 10-0. Humphrey was benched and entered Dalton Sneed to lead us to a dominate win from there versus Idaho.

Humphrey won't be facing secondaries with more than one sure-thing NFL defensive backs on the unit like they did at UW. UM receivers (Akem) won't be locked down as much going forward. Passing game should be good.

I am astonished how well the UM played at UW. There was talk, for years, about improvement; they finally delivered.

And you know, besides those two, he’s only thrown ONE other INT?

 

[SaskGriz]

I've read all these posts. And I like Humphrey a lot. He's a 5th year SR that is going to lead a loaded to team far this season.

But let's not forget it hasn't been all roses for Humphrey (it never is for a QB).

Humphrey started the 2019 game versus Idaho for an injured Dalton Sneed. Humphrey was a turnover machine in that 1st quarter with 2 interceptions (there was also a fumble turnover) that had the Griz down 10-0. Humphrey was benched and entered Dalton Sneed to lead us to a dominate win from there versus Idaho.

Humphrey won't be facing secondaries with more than one sure-thing NFL defensive backs on the unit like they did at UW. UM receivers (Akem) won't be locked down as much going forward. Passing game should be good.

I am astonished how well the UM played at UW. There was talk, for years, about improvement; they finally delivered.

And you know, besides those two, he’s only thrown ONE other INT?

Yeah, but I've been led to understand that he has thrown a lot of "near" interceptions. And I would imagine quite a few of his completions were "near incompletions". I've said enough.

 

[kemajic]

And you know, besides those two, he’s only thrown ONE other INT?

Yeah, but I've been led to understand that he has thrown a lot of "near" interceptions. And I would imagine quite a few of his completions were "near incompletions". I've said enough.

And I would imagine quite a few of his incompletions were "near completions." See how silly speculation like this is circular? His stats speak for themselves as facts. Do you have an anti-CH concern that is based on facts?

 

[hunt-ducks]

Says the guy who never posts anything about football. <YAWN>

Says the guy that has, what, 5 or 6 times more non-football posts in this thread than football posts. I won't even mention the multiple personal attacks on other posters.

You're like a fine whine

 

[hunt-ducks]

Yeah, but I've been led to understand that he has thrown a lot of "near" interceptions. And I would imagine quite a few of his completions were "near incompletions". I've said enough.

And I would imagine quite a few of his incompletions were "near completions." See how silly speculation like this is circular? His stats speak for themselves as facts. Do you have an anti-CH concern that is based on facts?

I call B.S. here. A "near interception" is when a pass is thrown into coverage which allows the defender to have a better chance at intercepting the football than the receiver has to catch it. If you can't admit that Cam has thrown into coverage quite a few times in his limited starts, then you are watching a different game than me. In fact, there were many comments about his penchant for forcing throws into coverage from posters back in 2019 during his starts. Funny how amnesia sets in with the elderly. Ask our president.

Let's shelve this meaningless discussion until we see what happens on Saturday. Then, we'll re-visit it.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Does anyone know if a “near interception” counts as a turnover?

 

[kemajic]

And I would imagine quite a few of his incompletions were "near completions." See how silly speculation like this is circular? His stats speak for themselves as facts. Do you have an anti-CH concern that is based on facts?

I call B.S. here. A "near interception" is when a pass is thrown into coverage which allows the defender to have a better chance at intercepting the football than the receiver has to catch it. If you can't admit that Cam has thrown into coverage quite a few times in his limited starts, then you are watching a different game than me. In fact, there were many comments about his penchant for forcing throws into coverage from posters back in 2019 during his starts. Funny how amnesia sets in with the elderly. Ask our president.

Let's shelve this meaningless discussion until we see what happens on Saturday. Then, we'll re-visit it.

Yeah, facts can be stubborn things. His interception rate is very good. Until that changes, you're right, it's a meaningless discussion. Not unlike the concerns of running at 3-3-5 defense.

 

[Ursa Major]

Focus on events in games, and stop your incessant quest to one-ups-me. We played two very poor teams in the spring. PSU was decimated on defense due to Covid and injuries. CWU is an awful team this year. You provided lots of stats, but you don't seem to remember Cam doing the things in those games which I have been critical of. Finally, have you gotten amnesia on the fact that Brown looked to be the better QB in those games?

I have made my observations on Cam, and only time (and a few games) will show if I am correct or full of scat. Be patient. We will know soon enough.

As coach and everyone close to the program has mentioned…there isn’t a QB battle. Cam has the starting position by a WIDE margin. It would take a lot for the team to go away from Cam. And I mean…a lot. Like meltdown throw 4 picks a half type performance. Nobody around the Griz expect brown except for an injury. We need a QB to game manage. We have the talent across the board to win games without a QB that throws for 500 yards. If cam throws for 175-250 a game and protects the ball. That’s all we will be asking or him. He makes good reads. He protects the ball and he can command the offense. Sometimes people forget that there is a LOT more to being a QB, than to just slinging the ball all over the yard

Great post!

 

[EverettGriz]

Does anyone know if a “near interception” counts as a turnover?

My fantasy league is a HNI league. Half a point deducted for each Near Interception.

 

[Ursa Major]

Does anyone know if a “near interception” counts as a turnover?

My fantasy league is a HNI league. Half a point deducted for each Near Interception.

:lol: :clap:

 

[SaskGriz]

Yeah, but I've been led to understand that he has thrown a lot of "near" interceptions. And I would imagine quite a few of his completions were "near incompletions". I've said enough.

And I would imagine quite a few of his incompletions were "near completions." See how silly speculation like this is circular? His stats speak for themselves as facts. Do you have an anti-CH concern that is based on facts?

Sorry Kem, it was meant to be tongue in cheek, there is another poster on here who has brought up "near interceptions". I suspect that if this poster didn't like a kicker his makes would be near misses, and wide receivers would have "near drops" and "near fumbles".

No, like most Griz posters, I tend to not worry about what didn't happen but might in the future and instead focus on what has happened. Must be the history teacher in me.

Cam Humphrey has started six games for the Griz in those games Montana is 6-0! (yeah he got pulled in the Idaho game, so call him 5-0-1 if that makes a guy feel better)

In those 6 games Cam is : 97- 147 - 1138 yds - 10 TD's - 3 Picks Completion % - 66% 7.74 YPP 11.73 YPC

I'm about as pedestrian as they come, and I've forgotten more about football than I'll ever know but those look like pretty good numbers for a starting QB.