Wisconsin

[becker2117]

First off, the BSC is a weak conference and the champion will likely be a 13 - 16 seed based upon historical averages. Therefore, they are likely to get the 2nd team in the ACC, B1G, Big East, or Big 12. So you're looking at Duke, Miami or NC State from ACC; Michigan, Indiana, Michigan State, or Ohio State from Big Ten; Syracuse, Louisville, or Marquette from Big East; and Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Iowa State, and Baylor from Big 12. I'm sorry to say but the Griz would be lucky to be in the gym with these teams. I'd say the over/under on the point spread would be about 22.

If we're a 15 or 16 seed, maybe we get one of those teams but a 13-seed is getting essentially the 13th-16th best team in the nation. And that ain't Michigan, Louisville, Syracuse, Kansas, Kansas State, etc. Hell, the top 4 seeds are coming from your list and I highly doubt the Griz will be a 16 seed.

Assuming a BSC championship, I see a 12 seed and a Griz matchup against an Oregon, a NM, a NC State or a Minnesota.

we would have to have an epic mid season colapse, then win the conf tourney to get a 16....if the season plays out how it should and we win the conf title...not a chance in hell we are a 16..

12 seed would be GREAT but im not sure we have to non conf resume to pull that off. If we won a few more of our non conf games i thnk we would have a better shot...but hell...who knows...but i guess if we pulled run the table..beating weebs in the dee would be huge..and i suppose 12 doesnt seem unlikely..we would be on a nice little tear. DAMN i love this time of year! getting jacked just thinking of running the table!

 

[mtgrizrule]

I swear, some of you listen to the NCAA analysts way too much. Very few of them know jack shit about Montana or Weber State. 0 to 2 Conferences losses is at worse a 14 seed. 13 seed is likely for either. 12 seed depending on who represents other conferences.

The only way either gets worse than a 14 seed is an epic collapse rest of the conference season. To be honest, I have not seen enough in the other conference teams to make me believe either will collapse this year.

If by chance anyone but Montana or Weber State makes the NCAA tournament, then we are looking at 16 seed, or even a play in.

 

[becker2117]

I swear, some of you listen to the NCAA analysts way too much. Very few of them know jack shit about Montana or Weber State. 0 to 2 Conferences losses is at worse a 14 seed. 13 seed is likely for either. 12 seed depending on who represents other conferences.

The only way either gets worse than a 14 seed is an epic collapse rest of the conference season. To be honest, I have not seen enough in the other conference teams to make me believe either will collapse this year.

If by chance anyone but Montana or Weber State makes the NCAA tournament, then we are looking at 16 seed, or even a play in.

your right, but i guess when i said epic collapse i ment like the imposible as in dropping like six in a row or more, then winning the conf title..i think that might get us pretty bad seed...but that isnt going to happen. ( i just knocked on wood for like ten seconds lol)

 

[mtgrizrule]

I swear, some of you listen to the NCAA analysts way too much. Very few of them know jack shit about Montana or Weber State. 0 to 2 Conferences losses is at worse a 14 seed. 13 seed is likely for either. 12 seed depending on who represents other conferences.

The only way either gets worse than a 14 seed is an epic collapse rest of the conference season. To be honest, I have not seen enough in the other conference teams to make me believe either will collapse this year.

If by chance anyone but Montana or Weber State makes the NCAA tournament, then we are looking at 16 seed, or even a play in.

your right, but i guess when i said epic collapse i ment like the imposible as in dropping like six in a row or more, then winning the conf title..i think that might get us pretty bad seed...but that isnt going to happen. ( i just knocked on wood for like ten seconds lol)

Montana's history the last decade will help get a seed or 2 better than projected also. I would find it helpful, if the GRIZ can get more blow out W's though. The close games do not help much.

 

[Ursa Major]

i just knocked on wood for like ten seconds lol

Did this have anything to do with your Griz boner?

 

[becker2117]

i just knocked on wood for like ten seconds lol

Did this have anything to do with your Griz boner?

haha, no it was just the computer desk, but i guess in a tough spot a griz boner could be used...i dont see why not! :thumb:

 

[moose/squirrel]

First off, the BSC is a weak conference and the champion will likely be a 13 - 16 seed based upon historical averages. Therefore, they are likely to get the 2nd team in the ACC, B1G, Big East, or Big 12. So you're looking at Duke, Miami or NC State from ACC; Michigan, Indiana, Michigan State, or Ohio State from Big Ten; Syracuse, Louisville, or Marquette from Big East; and Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Iowa State, and Baylor from Big 12. I'm sorry to say but the Griz would be lucky to be in the gym with these teams. I'd say the over/under on the point spread would be about 22.

If we're a 15 or 16 seed, maybe we get one of those teams but a 13-seed is getting essentially the 13th-16th best team in the nation. And that ain't Michigan, Louisville, Syracuse, Kansas, Kansas State, etc. Hell, the top 4 seeds are coming from your list and I highly doubt the Griz will be a 16 seed.

Assuming a BSC championship, I see a 12 seed and a Griz matchup against an Oregon, a NM, a NC State or a Minnesota.

Not sure about UNM or the Quackers, we would get crushed by NC State or the Gophers, 25 point underdogs.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Oregon just beat Arizona and ASU barely lost to Oregon...the "rest" of the Pac-12 isn't exactly a joke. Any of those three teams would absolutely roll the Griz on a neutral court.

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Bring lots of salt.

#24 UCLA 4-0, 14-3 (already has a win over #7 Missouri, currently on 9 game winning streak)
#21 Oregon 3-0, 14-2 (just beat #2 team in nation last weekend)
Washington 3-0, 11-5
#7 Arizona 3-1, 15-1 (wins over #5 Florida, #17 SDSU
Arizona St 3-1, 14-3

I see a MINIMUM of 3, and possibly 4 teams out of the Pac-12 in the tourney this year.

Washington ain't going to the tourney. Remember, UW set a historic precedent last year by winning the regular season of a major conference and then not getting into the tourney because they lost in the conference tournament. Humorous indeed.

Many of these teams know how to fall apart down the stretch. I've been waiting for UCLA to do something with that talent for years now, and it hasn't been since 2006 that they've really done anything with it.

Oregon is getting better and should be with the facilities and renewed fan support.

Arizona state? Ok. Get real, pal. Not since James Harden have the Devils been relevant. At. All.

So I said BESIDES Arizona. Last year, one team made it to the tournament. ONE. That's a slight decline over the past year when they managed to get 3 in. Crap-12 basketball is incredibly overrated. I'd take MWC, WCC, MVC teams any day over those craptacular overrated West Coast programs.

You stocking up on salt yet, Jerry?

Oregon: 7-1, 18-3 (w/wins over #18 Creighton, #4 U of A, #24 UCLA)
U of A: 6-2, 18-2 (w/wins over #5 FLA, #17 SDSU, and likely to finish 26-4 at worst)
ASU: 6-2, 17-4 (and likely to finish 25-6)
UCLA: 6-3, 16-6 (likely to finish 23-8 w/wins over #7 Missou and ON THE ROAD vs #6 U of A)

BTW, Pac-12 has the 3rd rated SOS in the country (only Big-10 and Big East are higher) and is ranked ahead of the WCC, A-10, MVC and a host of other conferences as far as power rankings go.

Realtime RPI has 5 Pac-12 teams in (Colorado).
ESPN's bracketology has 5 Pac-12 teams in (Colorado).

 

[EverettGriz]

Ohhhh the irony!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Gaeilge1]

Realistically the Griz need to win out, win the bracketbuster on the road and win the conference tourney to get a 12 seed. But if they do all of that, a 12 is a reasonable assumption. If they are undefeated and win the tourney but lose the bracketbuster I could see a 13 or 14. If they lose in conference and the bracketbuster but win the tourney, probably a 15 or 16, maybe a 14 depending on what else happens around the country.

A 15 or 16 seed may very well pit them against Gonzaga out west. Gonzaga would be a terrible matchup for the Griz. They may be a terrible matchup for just about anyone. Butler got lucky. Gonzaga is definitely a Top Ten team this year.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Bring lots of salt.

#24 UCLA 4-0, 14-3 (already has a win over #7 Missouri, currently on 9 game winning streak)
#21 Oregon 3-0, 14-2 (just beat #2 team in nation last weekend)
Washington 3-0, 11-5
#7 Arizona 3-1, 15-1 (wins over #5 Florida, #17 SDSU
Arizona St 3-1, 14-3

I see a MINIMUM of 3, and possibly 4 teams out of the Pac-12 in the tourney this year.

Washington ain't going to the tourney. Remember, UW set a historic precedent last year by winning the regular season of a major conference and then not getting into the tourney because they lost in the conference tournament. Humorous indeed.

Many of these teams know how to fall apart down the stretch. I've been waiting for UCLA to do something with that talent for years now, and it hasn't been since 2006 that they've really done anything with it.

Oregon is getting better and should be with the facilities and renewed fan support.

Arizona state? Ok. Get real, pal. Not since James Harden have the Devils been relevant. At. All.

So I said BESIDES Arizona. Last year, one team made it to the tournament. ONE. That's a slight decline over the past year when they managed to get 3 in. Crap-12 basketball is incredibly overrated. I'd take MWC, WCC, MVC teams any day over those craptacular overrated West Coast programs.

You stocking up on salt yet, Jerry?

Oregon: 7-1, 18-3 (w/wins over #18 Creighton, #4 U of A, #24 UCLA)
U of A: 6-2, 18-2 (w/wins over #5 FLA, #17 SDSU, and likely to finish 26-4 at worst)
ASU: 6-2, 17-4 (and likely to finish 25-6)
UCLA: 6-3, 16-6 (likely to finish 23-8 w/wins over #7 Missou and ON THE ROAD vs #6 U of A)

BTW, Pac-12 has the 3rd rated SOS in the country (only Big-10 and Big East are higher) and is ranked ahead of the WCC, A-10, MVC and a host of other conferences as far as power rankings go.

Realtime RPI has 5 Pac-12 teams in (Colorado).
ESPN's bracketology has 5 Pac-12 teams in (Colorado).

Scratch Colorado. They just lost to LK's Utah Utes. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Oregon just beat Arizona and ASU barely lost to Oregon...the "rest" of the Pac-12 isn't exactly a joke. Any of those three teams would absolutely roll the Griz on a neutral court.

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Oregon: #12 seed in Midwest Bracket
UCLA: #6 seed in South Bracket
California: #12 seed in East Bracket
Colorado: #10 seed East Bracket
Arizona: #6 seed in West Bracket

Start eating.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Oregon just beat Arizona and ASU barely lost to Oregon...the "rest" of the Pac-12 isn't exactly a joke. Any of those three teams would absolutely roll the Griz on a neutral court.

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Oregon: #12 seed in Midwest Bracket
UCLA: #6 seed in South Bracket
California: #12 seed in East Bracket
Colorado: #10 seed East Bracket
Arizona: #6 seed in West Bracket

Start eating.

Hey, Punch Drunk, come out and pla-yay!!!

 

[Jerry Punch]

Oregon just beat Arizona and ASU barely lost to Oregon...the "rest" of the Pac-12 isn't exactly a joke. Any of those three teams would absolutely roll the Griz on a neutral court.

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Oregon: #12 seed in Midwest Bracket
UCLA: #6 seed in South Bracket
California: #12 seed in East Bracket
Colorado: #10 seed East Bracket
Arizona: #6 seed in West Bracket

Start eating.

Hey, Punch Drunk, come out and pla-yay!!!

Pac 12 gets those teams in. Good work. I see that the winner of the conference tournament got a 12 seed and the winner of the regular season got a 6 seed. Sure, more teams are in. I'm eating my hat. However, the Pac 12 is not a respectable conference. The best you can get is a 6 seed? I think there is a legit chance that none of those teams advance this season. Inconsistency and mediocrity - that's the name of the game in the Pac 12.

 

[mlbowl]

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Oregon: #12 seed in Midwest Bracket
UCLA: #6 seed in South Bracket
California: #12 seed in East Bracket
Colorado: #10 seed East Bracket
Arizona: #6 seed in West Bracket

Start eating.

Hey, Punch Drunk, come out and pla-yay!!!

Pac 12 gets those teams in. Good work. I see that the winner of the conference tournament got a 12 seed and the winner of the regular season got a 6 seed. Sure, more teams are in. I'm eating my hat. However, the Pac 12 is not a respectable conference. The best you can get is a 6 seed? I think there is a legit chance that none of those teams advance this season. Inconsistency and mediocrity - that's the name of the game in the Pac 12.

Yup...no respect. The Pac-12 gets nearly half the conference in :roll: Btw, how does your hat taste? Pics please!

 

[Jerry Punch]

Dude - getting in means you are one of the 68 best teams in the country. Winning a game once you're in is quite a different standard.

Hat tastes great! Lots and lots and lots of sugar.

 

[mlbowl]

Hat tastes great! Lots and lots and lots of sugar.

:clap:

 

[Jerry Punch]

Being able to admit you're wrong is a rare skill in this world and rarer yet on Egriz. I was wrong about the Pac 12. However, I do not retract any statement that the conference sucks balls. Their best teams got a 6 seed. A six seed! With horrible matchups to boot.

I think yesterday you saw the committee rewarding teams for trying to schedule harder games, especially if they are mid-majors. Big conference teams that play weak OOC schedules got left out, and that's how it should be. UM played up. Middle Tennessee played up. New Mexico, UNLV, etc- all played up. Tennessee played down, Iowa played down, etc, and they're on the outside looking in. The Pac 12 is similar in that regard. The conference top to bottom is just not a quality league, and winning it outright in the regular season gets you a 6 seed while winning the conference tourney gets you an 11. That screams no respect, and in this case, it is totally justified.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

The most overrated conferences in recent years have been the Big East and the Big Ten. The ACC is the most underrated conference this season.

 

[Buttegrizzle]

Oregon just beat Arizona and ASU barely lost to Oregon...the "rest" of the Pac-12 isn't exactly a joke. Any of those three teams would absolutely roll the Griz on a neutral court.

Yes it is. If more than two teams get in this year, I'll be back here to eat my hat.

Oregon: #12 seed in Midwest Bracket
UCLA: #6 seed in South Bracket
California: #12 seed in East Bracket
Colorado: #10 seed East Bracket
Arizona: #6 seed in West Bracket

Start eating. [
/quote]

:thumb:
Ha. Punch you truly suck. Look back at the beginning of this Moron's thread. Texas? Really? Fact Montana is IN. Not one of the 20 DI schools from Texas are in. Kentucky, nope. 'Bama ( who somehow appeared on ESPN about 10 times this year, not in. Griz. in. Who cares if they lost to a powerful Wisconsin team last year, the point is they were there. And they are back.