Willy Phlug to Jacksonville

[horribilisfan8184]

Yeah it was a bit of a generalization but I guess what I'm trying to say is Stitt probably isn't a big fan of "gunslingers" at QB.

Wouldn't blame him for that, but there too, what coach is?

On the other hand, Stitt traded a 71% completion average QB for a 58% completion average QB.

And don't take my sarcasm personally. When this conversation erupted mid-season, all the chest thumpers arrived to announce that "Stitt was going to do this," and "Stitt was going to do that" and in particular, "he's going to recruit HIS athletes!"

And of course, when asked how Stitt was going to recruit differently, and what exactly would he be looking for that would be distinctive, this board got answers, complete with anger and venom, that "STITT WAS GOING TO RECRUIT BIG GUYS FOR THE LINE" as though that was a major revelation that only Bob Stitt had ever thought of. For QB, same question? 'HE'S GOING TO RECRUIT QUARTERBACKS THAT ARE SMART AND ACCURATE! SO THERE!"

In other words, this collection of geniuses has Stitt all figured out and what he's "going to recruit" and then when asked to offer a definition anything more meaningful than cheerleader pablum, they can't. And of course when that points out just how dumb the comments really are when you think about it, then of course you must be "anti-Stitt," because these guys look stupid. I think even Stitt would agree that he's never yet met a football coach that wanted to recruit slow, stupid, lazy quarterbacks.

But when a mindless fan parrots the claim that "Stitt is going to recruit quarterbacks that are FAST, ACCURATE and maybe even can run," I don't think they are bright enough to understand just how stupid that really is. Of course he is. The alternative is ridiculous.

It's hard to tell if they think Stitt is so delusional that he just thought up the concept all by himself ... or if they really believe it themselves.

+1000

When posting under two screen names at the same time its advisable not to be so obvious.

 

[grizindabox]

Yes and when those players you're looking for stay in the FCS you get Carson Wentz, they get drafted in 1st or 2nd rounds...and are pretty freaking rare at this level.

Agreed. Since everyone was giving the description on what Stitt wants in a Qb I added what I also want in a Qb. Does it mean it will happen? No. But, there is no reason UM can't get a better Qb than what we have now. D2 Qbs.

so what you are saying is that it is Stitt's fault that the QB position lacks talent even though this is really his first full recruiting class at UM......

Nope. What I'm saying is he possibly made a mistake with a talented Qb. And traded it for another unknown kid with worse high school stats. And for some other random community college Qb that will probably never play a down here. I'm happy with getting Reese for competition. But there's not much competition there. Would it of hurt to give Willy another year or two? Do we really need 800 wr's? I feel like he deserved a chance to prove himself at least. Other people could have been cut for roster space.

Mistake maybe....but Stitt worked with Willy all Spring and into the Fall and decided he was not the guy.....Stitt determined there was no reason to waste a scholly on someone he didn't see as an option....and he had every chance to prove himself...and according to Stitt's actions, he failed....

 

[jcu27]

Yeah it was a bit of a generalization but I guess what I'm trying to say is Stitt probably isn't a big fan of "gunslingers" at QB.

Wouldn't blame him for that, but there too, what coach is?

On the other hand, Stitt traded a 71% completion average QB for a 58% completion average QB.

And don't take my sarcasm personally. When this conversation erupted mid-season, all the chest thumpers arrived to announce that "Stitt was going to do this," and "Stitt was going to do that" and in particular, "he's going to recruit HIS athletes!"

And of course, when asked how Stitt was going to recruit differently, and what exactly would he be looking for that would be distinctive, this board got answers, complete with anger and venom, that "STITT WAS GOING TO RECRUIT BIG GUYS FOR THE LINE" as though that was a major revelation that only Bob Stitt had ever thought of. For QB, same question? 'HE'S GOING TO RECRUIT QUARTERBACKS THAT ARE SMART AND ACCURATE! SO THERE!"

In other words, this collection of geniuses has Stitt all figured out and what he's "going to recruit" and then when asked to offer a definition anything more meaningful than cheerleader pablum, they can't. And of course when that points out just how dumb the comments really are when you think about it, then of course you must be "anti-Stitt," because these guys look stupid. I think even Stitt would agree that he's never yet met a football coach that wanted to recruit slow, stupid, lazy quarterbacks.

But when a mindless fan parrots the claim that "Stitt is going to recruit quarterbacks that are FAST, ACCURATE and maybe even can run," I don't think they are bright enough to understand just how stupid that really is. Of course he is. The alternative is ridiculous.

It's hard to tell if they think Stitt is so delusional that he just thought up the concept all by himself ... or if they really believe it themselves.

+1000

When posting under two screen names at the same time its advisable not to be so obvious.

Negative ghost rider. I do not know that person whatsoever. I do know egrizzers are closed minded, simplistic, inbred heathens that can not think for themselves. This person seems to be the exception.

 

[UMGriz75]

Jensen completed 122 of 209 passes (58%) for 1,558 yards with 15 touchdowns during the 2014 regular season and also ran for 585 yards and eight scores, with 14 interceptions his senior year, 39 total interceptions for his varsity career.

Willy: 185-of-259 passing (71.4 %) for 2,636 yards with 29 TDs and 11 interceptions; 401 yards rushing with 6 TDs

Annualized for the year (ie, adjusted as though each QB played every quarter), for whatever use it may be to compare college and high school,

Gustafson 57% passing completion, Chalich 61%, Simis 55%

Rushing (yds)
Brady 60
Chad 312
Makena 904

Passing (yds)
Brady 1984
Chad 908
Makena 740

Total, passing + rushing (yds)
Brady 4126
Chad 3372
Makena 2960

Percentage of rushing yds to passing yds
Brady 1%
Chad 8%
Makena 23%

Touchdown Passes
Brady 25
Chad 22
Makena 28

Passing Efficiency
Brady 122.5
Chad 126.3
Makena 122.0

Interceptions
Brady 19
Chad 7
Makena 16

An interesting metric which may mean nothing at all, the number of yards from the QB as it relates to overall team score, per point scored, Brady needed 10.01 yds, Chad 10.7 yds, Makena 7.55 yds.

By rough comparisons, Jensen and Pflug look much more like Makena Simis than they do Brady Gustafson. Don't have Reese's numbers yet.

 

[Ursa Major]

Wouldn't blame him for that, but there too, what coach is?

On the other hand, Stitt traded a 71% completion average QB for a 58% completion average QB.

And don't take my sarcasm personally. When this conversation erupted mid-season, all the chest thumpers arrived to announce that "Stitt was going to do this," and "Stitt was going to do that" and in particular, "he's going to recruit HIS athletes!"

And of course, when asked how Stitt was going to recruit differently, and what exactly would he be looking for that would be distinctive, this board got answers, complete with anger and venom, that "STITT WAS GOING TO RECRUIT BIG GUYS FOR THE LINE" as though that was a major revelation that only Bob Stitt had ever thought of. For QB, same question? 'HE'S GOING TO RECRUIT QUARTERBACKS THAT ARE SMART AND ACCURATE! SO THERE!"

In other words, this collection of geniuses has Stitt all figured out and what he's "going to recruit" and then when asked to offer a definition anything more meaningful than cheerleader pablum, they can't. And of course when that points out just how dumb the comments really are when you think about it, then of course you must be "anti-Stitt," because these guys look stupid. I think even Stitt would agree that he's never yet met a football coach that wanted to recruit slow, stupid, lazy quarterbacks.

But when a mindless fan parrots the claim that "Stitt is going to recruit quarterbacks that are FAST, ACCURATE and maybe even can run," I don't think they are bright enough to understand just how stupid that really is. Of course he is. The alternative is ridiculous.

It's hard to tell if they think Stitt is so delusional that he just thought up the concept all by himself ... or if they really believe it themselves.

+1000

When posting under two screen names at the same time its advisable not to be so obvious.

Negative ghost rider. I do not know that person whatsoever. I do know egrizzers are closed minded, simplistic, inbred heathens that can not think for themselves. This person seems to be the exception.

Glad you're here to "tackle" the problem!!

 

[horribilisfan8184]

Jensen completed 122 of 209 passes (58%) for 1,558 yards with 15 touchdowns during the 2014 regular season and also ran for 585 yards and eight scores, with 14 interceptions his senior year, 39 total interceptions for his varsity career.

Willy: 185-of-259 passing (71.4 %) for 2,636 yards with 29 TDs and 11 interceptions; 401 yards rushing with 6 TDs

Annualized for the year (ie, adjusted as though each QB played every quarter), for whatever use it may be to compare college and high school,

Gustafson 57% passing completion, Chalich 61%, Simis 55%

Rushing (yds)
Brady 60
Chad 312
Makena 904

Passing (yds)
Brady 1984
Chad 908
Makena 740

Total, passing + rushing (yds)
Brady 4126
Chad 3372
Makena 2960

Percentage of rushing yds to passing yds
Brady 1%
Chad 8%
Makena 23%

Touchdown Passes
Brady 25
Chad 22
Makena 28

Passing Efficiency
Brady 122.5
Chad 126.3
Makena 122.0

Interceptions
Brady 19
Chad 7
Makena 16

An interesting metric which may mean nothing at all, the number of yards from the QB as it relates to overall team score, per point scored, Brady needed 10.01 yds, Chad 10.7 yds, Makena 7.55 yds.

By rough comparisons, Jensen and Pflug look much more like Makena Simis than they do Brady Gustafson. Don't have Reese's numbers yet.

Does Steve Running know you are using his computer models?

 

[jcu27]

+1000

When posting under two screen names at the same time its advisable not to be so obvious.

Negative ghost rider. I do not know that person whatsoever. I do know egrizzers are closed minded, simplistic, inbred heathens that can not think for themselves. This person seems to be the exception.

Glad you're here to "tackle" the problem!!

 

[VimSince03]

Wow things can get going on here quickly! My original post UMGriz75 deserved a little more explanation than: smart and accurate and can run. I agree that was a dumb post with not enough info for an argument. I was going to go in depth on Gustafson's strengths in the deep passing game and inaccuracies in the short to intermediate game and comparing that to what Stitt wants in his offense. Call me a mindless parrot all you want. I am fully confident in my ability to break down QBs that fit different schemes. PM if you want to actually talk about this.

 

[tgreseth]

Yeah it was a bit of a generalization but I guess what I'm trying to say is Stitt probably isn't a big fan of "gunslingers" at QB.

Wouldn't blame him for that, but there too, what coach is?

On the other hand, Stitt traded a 71% completion average QB for a 58% completion average QB.

And don't take my sarcasm personally. When this conversation erupted mid-season, all the chest thumpers arrived to announce that "Stitt was going to do this," and "Stitt was going to do that" and in particular, "he's going to recruit HIS athletes!"

And of course, when asked how Stitt was going to recruit differently, and what exactly would he be looking for that would be distinctive, this board got answers, complete with anger and venom, that "STITT WAS GOING TO RECRUIT BIG FAST GUYS FOR THE LINE" as though that was a major revelation that only Bob Stitt had ever thought of. For QB, same question? 'HE'S GOING TO RECRUIT QUARTERBACKS THAT ARE SMART AND ACCURATE! SO THERE!"

In other words, this collection of geniuses has Stitt all figured out and what he's "going to recruit" and then when asked to offer a definition anything more meaningful than cheerleader pablum, they can't. And of course when that points out just how dumb the comments really are when you think about it, then of course you must be "anti-Stitt," because these guys look stupid. I think even Stitt would agree that he's never yet met a football coach that wanted to recruit slow, stupid, lazy quarterbacks.

But when a mindless fan parrots the claim that "Stitt is going to recruit quarterbacks that are FAST, ACCURATE and maybe even can run," I don't think they are bright enough to understand just how stupid that really is. Of course he is. The alternative is ridiculous.

It's hard to tell if they think Stitt is so delusional that he just thought up the concept all by himself ... or if they really believe it themselves.

Serious question '75, how are you any different?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that. It feels like someone is losing control of a certain room equipped with lockers.

 

[UMGriz75]

Wow things can get going on here quickly! My original post UMGriz75 deserved a little more explanation than: smart and accurate and can run. I agree that was a dumb post with not enough info for an argument. I was going to go in depth on Gustafson's strengths in the deep passing game and inaccuracies in the short to intermediate game and comparing that to what Stitt wants in his offense. Call me a mindless parrot all you want. I am fully confident in my ability to break down QBs that fit different schemes. PM if you want to actually talk about this.

As I said, don't take it personally, and I assume you weren't a "Griz fan" and did not intend to lump you in with any of the serial offenders. I did precisely the breakdown you describe mid-season on Gustafson.

 

[UMGriz75]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that.

And that nobody else is trying to recruit him, either.

 

[grizindabox]

I think Stitt knows what he wants in a QB and will recruit accordingly....it is also pretty evident that Willy did not encompass what Stitt wants in a QB....but everyone can continue to post what they think Stitt wants in a QB and that Willy got a raw deal....

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that.

And that nobody else is trying to recruit him, either.

I can't imagine he would choose to play anywhere but UM. I remember being shocked when Cam Newton didn't sign here after leaving Florida, but we probably didn't offer a competitive compensation package. Thanks, Engstrom!

 

[UMGriz75]

Serious question '75, how are you any different?

Plenty different. I have no idea how a coach that lost 9 of 15 meetings to perennial Midwest Powerhouse Chadron State is going to do things at the University of Montana and so I am not making outlandish claims for him.

I certainly understand that claiming that Stitt is going to recruit fast, accurate quarterbacks and that which has not actually even happened yet is proof of his genius offense is simply stupid. Maybe someday, but projection is not a useful analysis. :roll:

How does that make you different?

 

[UMGriz75]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that.

And that nobody else is trying to recruit him, either.

I can't imagine he would choose to play anywhere but UM. I remember being shocked when Cam Newton didn't sign here after leaving Florida, but we probably didn't offer a competitive compensation package. Thanks, Engstrom!

Kobe Bryant wasn't good enough to play basketball either according to one "coach."

 

[VimSince03]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that.

And that nobody else is trying to recruit him, either.

I can't imagine he would choose to play anywhere but UM. I remember being shocked when Cam Newton didn't sign here after leaving Florida, but we probably didn't offer a competitive compensation package. Thanks, Engstrom!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I'm definitely using that. Haha!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that.

And that nobody else is trying to recruit him, either.

I can't imagine he would choose to play anywhere but UM. I remember being shocked when Cam Newton didn't sign here after leaving Florida, but we probably didn't offer a competitive compensation package. Thanks, Engstrom!

Kobe Bryant wasn't good enough to play basketball either according to one "coach."

Probably Stitt.

 

[ilovethecats]

Stitt and the staff probably want a QB who is deadly accurate on deep balls, really accurate on short passes, very smart, supremely athletic, blazingly fast, a quick learner, and a big threat to run on every play but with a really strong arm. I don't understand why it's so difficult to find a QB like that. It feels like someone is losing control of a certain room equipped with lockers.

sounds easy enough. please pass the word on as I think we'd take one of those too. if you have extras...