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Why isn't Maier being criticized?

EverettGriz said:
Sneed's picks weren't the reason we lost. Sneed's inability to move the offense effectively -- along with the staff being thoroughly outcoached in the second half-- is why we lost. Sneed's awful picks just made the loss entirely humiliating.

Agreed, they were not. The lack of offense in the second half was a big factor. Some big mistakes on defense were also big factors. Sacks of Sneed on 3d down plays in the second half were factors, especially the sack and fumble, which was caused by a missed block not Sneed.
 
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
You guys are funny. Blaming Sneed for second half picks that came after Davis had a 7 point lead, had just rattled off 25 points in a row, and had all the momentum.

Who should we blame for Sneed throwing picks, Stitt? Perhaps Jensen because he “quit”?

Should have said that blaming Sneed's picks for the loss is not the reason UM lost. Sometimes picks are caused in part by the rush, or a miscommunication with a receiver, but I'm not blaming anyone else for Sneed's picks on Saturday. I missed the last pick, so don't even know what happened.

The last pick was no big deal. The first two were bigger deals. I can understand the 2d one a bit, as UM was feeling it had to pass and Sneed and the O were starting to press. The corner jumped the throw nicely. Again, Humphrey almost threw the same pick when he came in.

The 2d pick did severely undercut UM's chance of coming back, but, looking in retrospect, UM was not going to win the game at that point. The prior 25 points just rattled off, Davis' momentum and ability, and what had already occurred, had completely turned the tide of the game. The 2d pick was a bad throw, and I don't give Sneed a pass on it. I just understand what probably happened. For me, this comes from having played football in college, instead of old boy tennis now. Note that I am only providing my view. Free country; remember.

Why is a corner able to jump a throw? Maybe because Sneed stares down receivers? Why are defenders able to meet at the QB in the backfield? Maybe because Sneed telegraphs every single snap with his "crouch" right before the ball is snapped? If THOSE two things can't be fixed, then NEXT MAN UP as far as I'm concerned.
 
IdahoGrizFan said:
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?

I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.
 
PlayerRep said:
IdahoGrizFan said:
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?

I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
You guys are funny. Blaming Sneed for second half picks that came after Davis had a 7 point lead, had just rattled off 25 points in a row, and had all the momentum.

Who should we blame for Sneed throwing picks, Stitt? Perhaps Jensen because he “quit”?

Should have said that blaming Sneed's picks for the loss is not the reason UM lost. Sometimes picks are caused in part by the rush, or a miscommunication with a receiver, but I'm not blaming anyone else for Sneed's picks on Saturday. I missed the last pick, so don't even know what happened.

The last pick was no big deal. The first two were bigger deals. I can understand the 2d one a bit, as UM was feeling it had to pass and Sneed and the O were starting to press. The corner jumped the throw nicely. Again, Humphrey almost threw the same pick when he came in.

The 2d pick did severely undercut UM's chance of coming back, but, looking in retrospect, UM was not going to win the game at that point. The prior 25 points just rattled off, Davis' momentum and ability, and what had already occurred, had completely turned the tide of the game. The 2d pick was a bad throw, and I don't give Sneed a pass on it. I just understand what probably happened. For me, this comes from having played football in college, instead of old boy tennis now. Note that I am only providing my view. Free country; remember.

Why is a corner able to jump a throw? Maybe because Sneed stares down receivers? Why are defenders able to meet at the QB in the backfield? Maybe because Sneed telegraphs every single snap with his "crouch" right before the ball is snapped? If THOSE two things can't be fixed, then NEXT MAN UP as far as I'm concerned.

A corner jumps a throw because he takes a chance and/or knows he has help behind him. Later in a game, or in a passing situation, he may also get more aggressive. Davis plays mostly man coverage, especially at the corners. The corner would have been looking at his man, not the qb, on that play. That was a quick pass that where the qb wouldn't have time to stare down a receiver. But that's not what occurred anything. The corner recognized the route, and jumped it quickly.

On your second point, does anyone know what triggers the snap from the center?
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
IdahoGrizFan said:
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?

I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.

He hit all or most of his longer passes yesterday. He had longer passes than Maier yesterday.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
Who should we blame for Sneed throwing picks, Stitt? Perhaps Jensen because he “quit”?

Should have said that blaming Sneed's picks for the loss is not the reason UM lost. Sometimes picks are caused in part by the rush, or a miscommunication with a receiver, but I'm not blaming anyone else for Sneed's picks on Saturday. I missed the last pick, so don't even know what happened.

The last pick was no big deal. The first two were bigger deals. I can understand the 2d one a bit, as UM was feeling it had to pass and Sneed and the O were starting to press. The corner jumped the throw nicely. Again, Humphrey almost threw the same pick when he came in.

The 2d pick did severely undercut UM's chance of coming back, but, looking in retrospect, UM was not going to win the game at that point. The prior 25 points just rattled off, Davis' momentum and ability, and what had already occurred, had completely turned the tide of the game. The 2d pick was a bad throw, and I don't give Sneed a pass on it. I just understand what probably happened. For me, this comes from having played football in college, instead of old boy tennis now. Note that I am only providing my view. Free country; remember.

Why is a corner able to jump a throw? Maybe because Sneed stares down receivers? Why are defenders able to meet at the QB in the backfield? Maybe because Sneed telegraphs every single snap with his "crouch" right before the ball is snapped? If THOSE two things can't be fixed, then NEXT MAN UP as far as I'm concerned.

A corner jumps a throw because he takes a chance and/or knows he has help behind him. Later in a game, or in a passing situation, he may also get more aggressive. Davis plays mostly man coverage, especially at the corners. The corner would have been looking at his man, not the qb, on that play. That was a quick pass that where the qb wouldn't have time to stare down a receiver. But that's not what occurred anything. The corner recognized the route, and jumped it quickly.

On your second point, does anyone know what triggers the snap from the center?

asked the other team as apparently they all know.
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
IdahoGrizFan said:
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?

I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.

He hit all or most of his longer passes yesterday. He had longer passes than Maier yesterday.

Most of his longer passes went to guys wearing the other jersey.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.

He hit all or most of his longer passes yesterday. He had longer passes than Maier yesterday.

Most of his longer passes went to guys wearing the other jersey.

A couple did. The 2 early back shoulder passes to the sidelines were terrific. The TD pass off the scramble to the back of the end zone was good. The longer pass to the TE over the middle was good.
 
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
You guys are funny. Blaming Sneed for second half picks that came after Davis had a 7 point lead, had just rattled off 25 points in a row, and had all the momentum.

Who should we blame for Sneed throwing picks, Stitt? Perhaps Jensen because he “quit”?

Should have said that blaming Sneed's picks for the loss is not the reason UM lost. Sometimes picks are caused in part by the rush, or a miscommunication with a receiver, but I'm not blaming anyone else for Sneed's picks on Saturday. I missed the last pick, so don't even know what happened.

The last pick was no big deal. The first two were bigger deals. I can understand the 2d one a bit, as UM was feeling it had to pass and Sneed and the O were starting to press. The corner jumped the throw nicely. Again, Humphrey almost threw the same pick when he came in.

The 2d pick did severely undercut UM's chance of coming back, but, looking in retrospect, UM was not going to win the game at that point. The prior 25 points just rattled off, Davis' momentum and ability, and what had already occurred, had completely turned the tide of the game. The 2d pick was a bad throw, and I don't give Sneed a pass on it. I just understand what probably happened. For me, this comes from having played football in college, instead of old boy tennis now. Note that I am only providing my view. Free country; remember.

Or sometimes by shitty throws.

If I threw 20 5-yard passes and completed 19 of them, would that make me a good quarterback?
 
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
IdahoGrizFan said:
I give up, PlayerRep is right. Keep the high percentage passer. Now my question is if we are going for the high percentage short passes why are we not utilizing JLM? He had 1 catch for 8 yards. Against ND 3 for 20 and against PS 1 for -2. JLM can turn a high percentage 6 yard pass into a 20 yard gain faster than anyone.

Now my question is why isn't Sneed looking to throw to someone who can be a play changer? We all know what he can do? Why not use him?

I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.

He hit all or most of his longer passes yesterday. He had longer passes than Maier yesterday.

Mostly because of runs after the catch if I recall correctly.
 
PlayerRep, most of my posts lately have been due to frustration. When I watch Sneed play it see one thing, heart. That quality is a great thing. Do I wish he could consistently throw a longer pass? Yes. The guy plays with passion and wants to win. It is easy to have knee jerk reactions and say get rid of him, put in someone else, anyone else in fact. I honestly don't think that would fix things. The only thing I wish we would bench are the turn overs, and throw to JLM more. A lot more.
 
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
I have never said "keep Sneed". I'm fine with whatever the coaches want to do. I like how Sneed plays and leads. I like high percentage passers. Sneed's passing numbers, in terms of yards per throw and catch, were about the same as Maier's. But Maier had a higher passing percentage. Huh, is that important? And no picks for Maier. He has only 3 or 4 for the year. I like low pick qb's too. Sneed went from 4 to 7 yesterday.

I completely agree with you on throwing to JLM. I assume that Sneed and the coaches are trying to throw more longer passes to the outside receivers, so they can please some of you egrizzers with longer passing stats.

Sneed has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't HIT those longer passes...if they're truly trying to stretch the field, they've got the wrong guy under center.

He hit all or most of his longer passes yesterday. He had longer passes than Maier yesterday.

Mostly because of runs after the catch if I recall correctly.

I don't agree. Three had almost no run after catch. And one has some run by the TE. Maier didn't throw many long passes.
 
IdahoGrizFan said:
PlayerRep, most of my posts lately have been due to frustration. When I watch Sneed play it see one thing, heart. That quality is a great thing. Do I wish he could consistently throw a longer pass? Yes. The guy plays with passion and wants to win. It is easy to have knee jerk reactions and say get rid of him, put in someone else, anyone else in fact. I honestly don't think that would fix things. The only thing I wish we would bench are the turn overs, and throw to JLM more. A lot more.

I agree. I don't think I have had any problem with most of your posts. Just debated a few smaller things. I like your posting.
 
grizindabox said:
I can't wait for JLM to have 15 catches for 64 yards to make all you "throw it to JLM more" folks happy.

That would only happen because Sneed isn’t able to complete a pass to him beyond the 5-8 yard range
 
Fahque said:
grizindabox said:
I can't wait for JLM to have 15 catches for 64 yards to make all you "throw it to JLM more" folks happy.

That would only happen because Sneed isn’t able to complete a pass to him beyond the 5-8 yard range

Let's do it
 
Fahque said:
PlayerRep said:
EverettGriz said:
PlayerRep said:
You guys are funny. Blaming Sneed for second half picks that came after Davis had a 7 point lead, had just rattled off 25 points in a row, and had all the momentum.

Who should we blame for Sneed throwing picks, Stitt? Perhaps Jensen because he “quit”?

Should have said that blaming Sneed's picks for the loss is not the reason UM lost. Sometimes picks are caused in part by the rush, or a miscommunication with a receiver, but I'm not blaming anyone else for Sneed's picks on Saturday. I missed the last pick, so don't even know what happened.

The last pick was no big deal. The first two were bigger deals. I can understand the 2d one a bit, as UM was feeling it had to pass and Sneed and the O were starting to press. The corner jumped the throw nicely. Again, Humphrey almost threw the same pick when he came in.

The 2d pick did severely undercut UM's chance of coming back, but, looking in retrospect, UM was not going to win the game at that point. The prior 25 points just rattled off, Davis' momentum and ability, and what had already occurred, had completely turned the tide of the game. The 2d pick was a bad throw, and I don't give Sneed a pass on it. I just understand what probably happened. For me, this comes from having played football in college, instead of old boy tennis now. Note that I am only providing my view. Free country; remember.

Or sometimes by shitty throws.

If I threw 20 5-yard passes and completed 19 of them, would that make me a good quarterback?
If it kept enough drives going to win the game, definately.
 
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