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Why do coaches want to blow season by not listening to the fans?

Mellott has been a fairly good QB, but remember for two years they had Chambers to step in and take lots of snaps in fact didn't he lead the country in rushing touchdowns, Mellott always got the credit for the win but Chambers was a fairly good QB that insured he stayed healthy. Two years ago Sac State was using the 2 QB system and it worked well for them as well. Back then I kept reading on here why are we trying the 2 QB system as it works well other places, now that we are using it, it is because we have bad coaches.
 
pyroguy said:
Mellott has been a fairly good QB, but remember for two years they had Chambers to step in and take lots of snaps in fact didn't he lead the country in rushing touchdowns, Mellott always got the credit for the win but Chambers was a fairly good QB that insured he stayed healthy. Two years ago Sac State was using the 2 QB system and it worked well for them as well. Back then I kept reading on here why are we trying the 2 QB system as it works well other places, now that we are using it, it is because we have bad coaches.
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Are you saying that MSU and Sac State have better coaches because they used a two-QB system, and it worked successfully? I think you answered your own question.
 
pyroguy said:
Mellott has been a fairly good QB, but remember for two years they had Chambers to step in and take lots of snaps in fact didn't he lead the country in rushing touchdowns, Mellott always got the credit for the win but Chambers was a fairly good QB that insured he stayed healthy. Two years ago Sac State was using the 2 QB system and it worked well for them as well. Back then I kept reading on here why are we trying the 2 QB system as it works well other places, now that we are using it, it is because we have bad coaches.
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2 teams that used 2 quarterbacks in specific situations, using the 2nd quarterback’s strength when needed, often in the same series.
Not a team using 2 quarterbacks and running the the same offensive plays for both. Not a team using 2 quarterbacks that has been changing after an interception or fumble. Not a team that has shown any reasonable reason for changing quarterbacks.
I believe Ah Yat is the future and would like to see him the next three years, but the Griz should’ve won that game at home.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Someone already posted that he thought the coaches want do things to have a successful season. And their jobs depend on successful season. I agree. I know coaches sometimes make mistakes, but do you think they could know more than we do?
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The season is just about blown. We are a three loss football team in a watered down FCS. We couldn’t even beat a bad Weber state team. We may lose to a bad Portland state team this week. We’re not a good football team, and we’re not winning in Bozeman, so best case scenario is
8-4 and a step backward for the program.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
I suppose I am in the minority but I to think the QB rotation could be effective if used properly. They could script a series for each starter, then judge who might have the better command or hot hand given the particular opponent. Then ride them that game.
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I still believe that in the saying " if you have 2 QB's, you have none" there is a reason that top ranked teams that go far into the playoffs only use 1 QB. You can't script 2 different game plans and be efficient.

It seems the coaches are having a tough time making the decision on 1 or the other for reasons we don't know. I am of the opinion that one of them is a very good practice player and the other is better when the lights are on. All speculation. Still need to decide on 1 or the other before playoffs come.
 
406football said:
I still believe that in the saying " if you have 2 QB's, you have none" there is a reason that top ranked teams that go far into the playoffs only use 1 QB. You can't script 2 different game plans and be efficient.

It seems the coaches are having a tough time making the decision on 1 or the other for reasons we don't know. I am of the opinion that one of them is a very good practice player and the other is better when the lights are on. All speculation. Still need to decide on 1 or the other before playoffs come.
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Right now I don’t think playoffs are in the picture. Something is rotten in Denmark…
 
406football said:
I still believe that in the saying " if you have 2 QB's, you have none" there is a reason that top ranked teams that go far into the playoffs only use 1 QB. You can't script 2 different game plans and be efficient.

It seems the coaches are having a tough time making the decision on 1 or the other for reasons we don't know. I am of the opinion that one of them is a very good practice player and the other is better when the lights are on. All speculation. Still need to decide on 1 or the other before playoffs come.
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Opening drives are often scripted. In our case we would script two drives.
 
Skookum-Jim said:
Opening drives are often scripted. In our case we would script two drives.
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usually the first 15-20 plays are scripted. They do that in Pop Warner. I am just saying that scripting a drive for 2 different QB's is immensely difficult unless they are a carbon copy of each other. I believe you make it easier on the other 10 positions by having 1 QB... It is the position that is the extension of the Head Coach and OC and the leader of the locker room. Having competing voices in the locker room can be very confusing on who you view is leading the team. It's like having 2 head coaches essentially
 
406football said:
usually the first 15-20 plays are scripted. They do that in Pop Warner. I am just saying that scripting a drive for 2 different QB's is immensely difficult unless they are a carbon copy of each other. I believe you make it easier on the other 10 positions by having 1 QB... It is the position that is the extension of the Head Coach and OC and the leader of the locker room. Having competing voices in the locker room can be very confusing on who you view is leading the team. It's like having 2 head coaches essentially
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Peace man, I concur, very good point.
 
406football said:
usually the first 15-20 plays are scripted. They do that in Pop Warner. I am just saying that scripting a drive for 2 different QB's is immensely difficult unless they are a carbon copy of each other. I believe you make it easier on the other 10 positions by having 1 QB... It is the position that is the extension of the Head Coach and OC and the leader of the locker room. Having competing voices in the locker room can be very confusing on who you view is leading the team. It's like having 2 head coaches essentially
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That wasn’t true on any team I played on. And the QB was not the leader in the locker room. I can’t imagine that McDowell was leader in locker room.
 
mthoopsfan said:
That wasn’t true on any team I played on. And the QB was not the leader in the locker room. I can’t imagine that McDowell was leader in locker room.
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I am sure you haven't been on a team in the last 20 years, but teams do, in fact, script the first 15 plays or so. I am sure he wasn't the leader of the locker room, but most definitely the leader of the offense. Most teams have a vocal leader on either side of the ball, as you probably know the QB is not going to be spending much time with the defense during practice, meetings, etc...

Are you in favor of playing 2 QB's? I am not saying one way or the other as I have no inside knowledge as to what happens at practice, meetings or film room to say who is better or what their thinking is. I am of the opinion that playing 2 QB's hurts the potential of the entire offense. I am also of the opinion that the offense isn't the reason the Griz have 3 losses.
 
In the last few years a 2 qb system has been used effectively by several teams, MSU, NDSU, SAC and PSU just to name a few. In all of those cases you could see the strategic and tactical advantage for using a multiple QB system.

The last few um games that I have seen I just don't see either a strategic or tactical reason for staying with a 2 qb system. Its kind of a head scratcher from my point of view.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Got it. I'd rather have Ochs and Miller. I forgot the Great Falls kid who transferred from Wyoming too, and played when Edwards was playing.
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The.Real.2506 said:
In the last few years a 2 qb system has been used effectively by several teams, MSU, NDSU, SAC and PSU just to name a few. In all of those cases you could see the strategic and tactical advantage for using a multiple QB system.

The last few um games that I have seen I just don't see either a strategic or tactical reason for staying with a 2 qb system. Its kind of a head scratcher from my point of view.
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I agree those teams implied a strategical use for the 2nd QB, but the wildcat system proved flawed over 10 years ago. I don't get the advantage to be honest because teams are prepared for both and usually they have a different play style which makes it easier to game plan against. did any of these teams win a Championship utilizing a 2nd QB?
 
RABIDAWG said:
A pissed off team will beat PSU, and you can throw all the rankings out during the brawl!
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Were the Griz pissed after they blew a 24 point lead and lost to a mediocre North Dakota team? If so they then went on to lose to a really shitty Weber team, despite their being pissed….made their QB look all world. I don’t think the team being pissed will have any outcome in regard to the coaches abilities as play callers and decision makers, nor will it make our slow linebackers fast, and our corners who can’t cover won’t miraculously become lockdown dudes because they’re pissed…..we’ll still see the dumb fucking qb rotation that lead to a shitty offensive performance, and we still won’t give our best back the carries he deserves
 
406football said:
I am sure you haven't been on a team in the last 20 years, but teams do, in fact, script the first 15 plays or so. I am sure he wasn't the leader of the locker room, but most definitely the leader of the offense. Most teams have a vocal leader on either side of the ball, as you probably know the QB is not going to be spending much time with the defense during practice, meetings, etc...

Are you in favor of playing 2 QB's? I am not saying one way or the other as I have no inside knowledge as to what happens at practice, meetings or film room to say who is better or what their thinking is. I am of the opinion that playing 2 QB's hurts the potential of the entire offense. I am also of the opinion that the offense isn't the reason the Griz have 3 losses.
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I said nothing about scripting plays.

You obviously don't know what some players thought of McDowell.

I expressed my views on the QB situation in my first posts after the game.
 
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