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Why Did So Many Griz Fans Give Up Earlier in Season?

I was one of few that said we would be where we are now...been called a loser and told I hadn't a clue about football yet my record stands for itself.. I wish I could bet and If I had hoops's money I would put $5000 on the Griz straight up..that $5000 would win $22500 + the $5000 back...If you can bet and have money to bet no better bet.
 
kemajic said:
AZGrizFan said:
And again, all VERY easy to say after a 10-win run. But after what we saw on the field in Flagstaff, and without knowing that half the team supposedly had COVID or the flu, there was EVERY reason to be concerned. Being critical <> “jumping off the bandwagon”, so we never had to “jump back on”…
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Being concerned is not what we're talking about. Calling for major changes in the coaching staff in season and blasting a young transfer QB trying to find his way is. Blasting Mayginnes when he still has not been able to return is another. All of the crazy solutions provided to a lousy 3-1 record is what we're talking about. Those of us trying to rein this crap in were accused of being BH homers pejoratively. You were not the worst but you significantly over-reacted and were wrong. Yet you defend that malarky. I had hoped for you to learn from this. Many BH teams have started out slow and build to November. The OOC games are preseason for his approach, particularly this year when he had to choose a new QB. I was wrong in thinking Vidlak was going to be the guy, underestimating Big Cliff. BH's approach allowed him to emerge.

Should the Griz fall short I can already hear, "BH can't win the big one."
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What I defend is the fact that those positions were NOT unreasonable after the NAU game and literally every person who expressed those opinions has admitted their error—multiple times. And Mayginnes DID come back, and then was gone again. NOBODY, and I mean nobody, was blasting any of the QB’s…in fact I defended Vidlak when his line refused to en masse (despite the fact I was a Cliff fan from the get go). And after last year’s complete meltdown, it wasn’t unreasonable at ALL for fans to think it was happening again. Prior to this year the “BH Approach” hadn’t really done shit, BTW (unless you’re one of those 10-win season everybody gets a participation ribbon guys)…

And ALL that being said, it’s pretty much bullshit for PR to bring this up THIS week, of all weeks, when we should be celebrating the Griz being in the Natty again. Just not sure why we gotta replow this ground over and over and over…
 
AZGrizFan said:
kemajic said:
Being concerned is not what we're talking about. Calling for major changes in the coaching staff in season and blasting a young transfer QB trying to find his way is. Blasting Mayginnes when he still has not been able to return is another. All of the crazy solutions provided to a lousy 3-1 record is what we're talking about. Those of us trying to rein this crap in were accused of being BH homers pejoratively. You were not the worst but you significantly over-reacted and were wrong. Yet you defend that malarky. I had hoped for you to learn from this. Many BH teams have started out slow and build to November. The OOC games are preseason for his approach, particularly this year when he had to choose a new QB. I was wrong in thinking Vidlak was going to be the guy, underestimating Big Cliff. BH's approach allowed him to emerge.

Should the Griz fall short I can already hear, "BH can't win the big one."
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What I defend is the fact that those positions were NOT unreasonable after the NAU game and literally every person who expressed those opinions has admitted their error—multiple times. And Mayginnes DID come back, and then was gone again. NOBODY, and I mean nobody, was blasting any of the QB’s…in fact I defended Vidlak when his line refused to en masse (despite the fact I was a Cliff fan from the get go). And after last year’s complete meltdown, it wasn’t unreasonable at ALL for fans to think it was happening again. Prior to this year the “BH Approach” hadn’t really done poop, BTW (unless you’re one of those 10-win season everybody gets a participation ribbon guys)…

And ALL that being said, it’s pretty much poop for PR to bring this up THIS week, of all weeks, when we should be celebrating the Griz being in the Natty again. Just not sure why we gotta replow this ground over and over and over…
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Sort of like you and Helena dredging up my beliefs about Montana kids.
 
Spanky2 said:
AZGrizFan said:
What I defend is the fact that those positions were NOT unreasonable after the NAU game and literally every person who expressed those opinions has admitted their error—multiple times. And Mayginnes DID come back, and then was gone again. NOBODY, and I mean nobody, was blasting any of the QB’s…in fact I defended Vidlak when his line refused to en masse (despite the fact I was a Cliff fan from the get go). And after last year’s complete meltdown, it wasn’t unreasonable at ALL for fans to think it was happening again. Prior to this year the “BH Approach” hadn’t really done poop, BTW (unless you’re one of those 10-win season everybody gets a participation ribbon guys)…

And ALL that being said, it’s pretty much poop for PR to bring this up THIS week, of all weeks, when we should be celebrating the Griz being in the Natty again. Just not sure why we gotta replow this ground over and over and over…
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Sort of like you and Helena dredging up my beliefs about Montana kids.
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Your position on Montana kids has been incorrect since day one. it’s the exact OPPOSITE of this, in fact.
 
WHY? I've said it before, the trajectory was DOWN, and coaching was NOT fixing the problem. Denial of the problem was my issue. NAU pointed it out. The problem was with the coaching. To their credit, they realized their problem, and fixed it. This 'bad fan' sh*t is crap. Glad the coaches got their head out. :thumb:
 
goatcreekgriz said:
Agree with Kem and PR. There was far too much vitriolic aggression after four games. Just support the student athletes, the coaches, and the university. This is Montana football, not your favorite pro team, so remember we have been here before and, after all, it’s still just a game played by college students. Now, let’s see the Griz devour a few bunnies.
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Bingo. Nothing wrong with being disappointed when your team has a bad run but if anger enters into it's time to examine your priorities.
 
GrizMusician said:
They obviously never played the game. :coffee: :fuel:
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You summed it up and answered it perfectly in 1 sentence. I love how some of these so called fans who obviously never played the game, talk shit like they know everything. At first I would get pissed off and want to interject but then I thought to myself that trying to correct one of these morons is like trying to talk sense to a Karen. No matter what you say, they don't hear or want to listen.
And for people who actually played the game can tell who hasn't by the things they write. It amazed me that right after the first few games with Butler and Ferris St. these morons were bitching and moaning about how the coaches, especially the HC and certain players were horrible. Saying we need a new HC, a new O line coach, our OC sucks. And then those same fans are praising these coaches . Talk about bandwagon fans.
But you can tell which ones are the ignorant morons and will never change and will continue to act like they know everything, while they know absolutely nothing. But that's what makes America great, freedom of speech. Go GRIZ!!!!
 
3-7-77 said:
WHY? I've said it before, the trajectory was DOWN, and coaching was NOT fixing the problem. Denial of the problem was my issue. NAU pointed it out. The problem was with the coaching. To their credit, they realized their problem, and fixed it. This 'bad fan' sh*t is crap. Glad the coaches got their head out. :thumb:
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Hahahahahaha
 
3-7-77 said:
WHY? I've said it before, the trajectory was DOWN, and coaching was NOT fixing the problem. Denial of the problem was my issue. NAU pointed it out. The problem was with the coaching. To their credit, they realized their problem, and fixed it. This 'bad fan' sh*t is crap. Glad the coaches got their head out. :thumb:
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There was no denial and the coaches knew what had to be fixed. But problems in D1 football do not get fixed overnight. It is a process that takes games to fix and that's what happened. If you think this is easy and can be done the flip of a switch, you are one naive dude. NAU was 5-3 in conference and tough at home at 7000'.
 
Spanky2 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Your position on Montana kids has been incorrect since day one. it’s the exact OPPOSITE of this, in fact.
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Go back to your Bob Stitt dream.
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Once again, a swing and a miss. I’ve admitted my error there probably a thousand times on this board. You have YET to admit that your retarded theory about “too many Montana kids” is anything more than just sheer stupidity. This’ll make EIGHT trips to the Natty…every time with a roster made up of almost half Montana kids.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Lol ole Playa

Asks why so many people didn’t see a chipper run coming. Than goes on to list 8 different reasons for concern early in the season.

All I know is that this is probably my the best coaching job I’ve ever seen at Montana. I’m not sure a young Bobby would have made the adjustments they did. They completely rebuilt the gameplan and season after week 5 and it worked. Kudos to Bobby and staff.
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I think Tim Hauck and Bradford are difference makers!
 
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