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Who should Haslam target for the New HC since BK only has a one year contract

uofmman1122 said:
I think you're projecting here, I don't think the optics would be bad at all. If they had given him a 3-year contract and then fired him after one year, sure, but Halsam was very up front that he's going to be evaluated at the end of the year. I like coach Kennedy, but if the program and new leadership want a new direction for the school/football program, I don't think the fact that he said he wants this to be his last job means much of anything.
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Who would want to coach here if it is publicly known that the standard is going 9-3 in your first year isn’t good enough? How will that affect recruits to know that their coach is not going to still be there in a year if they don’t win 75% of their games in year one? The only program that is somewhat comparable is Nebraska and as you pointed out they have even given their coaches more than one season. Nebraska is also a joke to the rest of the college football world because of how they fired 2 9-3 coaches.
 
5280Griz said:
If we fire a coach who said he wants to retire at UM after 1 season going to the playoffs, UM will become a joke to other fan bases as well as potential coaches. We don’t have the millions Nebraska is paying Matt Rhule to get coaches to come here. What was being proposed with Bobby Hauck was Kent Haslem telling him to retire after next season after coaching the Griz for 15 seasons and the most recent 7 seasons, which was never going to happen but it is a hypothetical. The optics of that to people outside the program are way different than firing a coach after one season who said he wants to be here for the rest of his career.
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Nobody gives a single shit about the “optics” of potentially not renewing the contract of what is essentially an interim coach (in spite of the fact that many fans refuse to acknowledge that is what he is)
 
gotgame75 said:
Nobody gives a single shit about the “optics” of potentially not renewing the contract of what is essentially an interim coach (in spite of the fact that many fans refuse to acknowledge that is what he is)
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Future coaches give a shit. They don’t want to come here when they can go 9-3 and still get fired. Nebraska can overcome this by paying millions in salary to their coach which Montana cannot.
 
5280Griz said:
What if Bobby Kennedy says he is going to change some of the staff next season would you want to retain him? I assume that would be the case unless the team does as well or better than this past season.
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That entirely depends on what happens this year, but assuming it's after a season where we lose to MSU, fail to win a conference championship, and don't go far in the playoffs, I would probably rather they just go get someone else.
 
5280Griz said:
Who would want to coach here if it is publicly known that the standard is going 9-3 in your first year isn’t good enough? How will that affect recruits to know that their coach is not going to still be there in a year if they don’t win 75% of their games in year one? The only program that is somewhat comparable is Nebraska and as you pointed out they have even given their coaches more than one season. Nebraska is also a joke to the rest of the college football world because of how they fired 2 9-3 coaches.
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You're completely ignoring the circumstances of our situation and are treating it like Kennedy has a mandate for the next several seasons. He doesn't, and the AD has been clear in that, both in his words publicly, and his refusal to sign him beyond this season.

Any potential 2027 recruits already know that there's a chance he's not going to be here. It would be on the next coach to try and retain whoever commits, and it's a situation that has happened and been handled well at many different schools.

If they decided to move on next season, we would be a very attractive job for a huge number of coaches. To suggest otherwise is silly.
 
uofmman1122 said:
You're completely ignoring the circumstances of our situation and are treating it like Kennedy has a mandate for the next several seasons. He doesn't, and the AD has been clear in that, both in his words publicly, and his refusal to sign him beyond this season.

Any potential 2027 recruits already know that there's a chance he's not going to be here. It would be on the next coach to try and retain whoever commits, and it's a situation that has happened and been handled well at many different schools.

If they decided to move on next season, we would be a very attractive job for a huge number of coaches. To suggest otherwise is silly.
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It's the AD's job to be prepared for that. Divisive eGriz speculation erodes confidence in Kennedy and the 2026 season. It is not necessary.
 
kemajic said:
It's the AD's job to be prepared for that. Divisive eGriz speculation erodes confidence in Kennedy and the 2026 season. It is not necessary.
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What we do or say here is meaningless, dude. lol

Like I've said before, though, I hope he kills it and we win every game this year.
 
My take….

With the pride, tradition, the facilities, the support, the fans, the home field, the returning staff, and returning players….

I feel like almost anyone with half a brain for football and schematics could come here and win a lot of games.

BK should be able to win 8 games in his sleep. So if he gets to more than that he will get renewed and that is fine by me.
 
uofmman1122 said:
I find it interesting as someone who has had a lot of things to say about Bobby and his entire staff over the last couple years that it now seems like you're suggesting Bobby was the problem.

Maybe he was! I guess we'll see, but I don't think it's a stretch to treat this staff as an extension of the previous staff, since it's almost literally the same staff lol.

To me it just seems weird that a lot of this fanbase seemed to suggest that this year would be a put up or shut up situation for coach Hauck, and anything less than beating the neighbors, winning the conference, and actually contending and playing for a natty would not be enough to want to keep him around and would make them want a fresh start with a whole new staff/system, but if you switch out one guy in the same staff, suddenly those expectations aren't there anymore?

Hopefully he kills it, but I don't think fans or the new leadership are gonna be okay with an 8-4/9-3 type season and getting boatraced in Bozeman again (definitely not anything worse than that).
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If the program is not accomplishing its goals/objectives, then yeah, the HC is the problem—like it or not. Buck stops there. Not even saying he needed to be replaced, but the buck STILL stops there.

One guy? Different WR coach. Different OL coach. Different RB coach. Different Recruiting coordinator. Different HC. And it wouldn’t surprise me to see Tim Hauck hang it up too…

But yea, basically same staff…???
 
AZGrizFan said:
If the program is not accomplishing its goals/objectives, then yeah, the HC is the problem—like it or not. Buck stops there. Not even saying he needed to be replaced, but the buck STILL stops there.

One guy? Different WR coach. Different OL coach. Different RB coach. Different Recruiting coordinator. Different HC. And it wouldn’t surprise me to see Tim Hauck hang it up too…

But yea, basically same staff…???
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We were replacing the OL Coach, RB Coach and recruiting coordinator either way. The only things that will be different are the WR coach (who was basically an assistant WR coach last year), and the special teams coordinator.

The way Kennedy spoke about Tim Hauck sure made it seem like he's coming back, but I guess we'll see.
 
uofmman1122 said:
We were replacing the OL Coach, RB Coach and recruiting coordinator either way. The only things that will be different are the WR coach (who was basically an assistant WR coach last year), and the special teams coordinator.

The way Kennedy spoke about Tim Hauck sure made it seem like he's coming back, but I guess we'll see.
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From what I understand everyone including BK wants Tim Hauck to come back but Tim hasn’t decided what he wants to do yet.
 
5280Griz said:
Future coaches give a shit. They don’t want to come here when they can go 9-3 and still get fired. Nebraska can overcome this by paying millions in salary to their coach which Montana cannot.
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The optics are already bad, its know through the coaches circle that 1. You don't have a president, 2. you have a lame duck AD, his contract is up in June and 3. the AD is difficult to work with and makes statements he doesn't keep. Everyone knows BK is not being renewed but him. The program has championship or bust mentality which you should, but promote a WR coach, you think he's going to out coach MSU coach.
 
MontanaGrizSoccer said:
The optics are already bad, its know through the coaches circle that 1. You don't have a president, 2. you have a lame duck AD, his contract is up in June and 3. the AD is difficult to work with and makes statements he doesn't keep. Everyone knows BK is not being renewed but him. The program has championship or bust mentality which you should, but promote a WR coach, you think he's going to out coach MSU coach.
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You might have a championship or bust mentality but the fans that matter donations wise.
 
uofmman1122 said:
We were replacing the OL Coach, RB Coach and recruiting coordinator either way. The only things that will be different are the WR coach (who was basically an assistant WR coach last year), and the special teams coordinator.

The way Kennedy spoke about Tim Hauck sure made it seem like he's coming back, but I guess we'll see.
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Thanks for making my point. Not even close to the same staff. HC, OL, RB, ST, WR, Recruiting Coordinator - ALL different.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Thanks for making my point. Not even close to the same staff. HC, OL, RB, ST, WR, Recruiting Coordinator - ALL different.
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Like I said, it's fine if you view it that way. I don't, and I think it's a little strange to treat them like a completely different staff.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Like I said, it's fine if you view it that way. I don't, and I think it's a little strange to treat them like a completely different staff.
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I've never said completely different. But with FIVE positions turning over, that's not "the same" either. Truth lies somewhere in the middle, and expecting BK to just be a "plug and play", nothing different, same expectations in year one is asking a LOT, IMHO. Because not only are 5 coaches different, but 40% of the roster is different too. That's a LOT of change.
 
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