who seriously thinks JJ would stay/play???

[Thurman Murman]

Thurman,

Your intel cred took a slight hit on the Roderick deal, and you’ll have to work regain stature.

This is a good step…..

My surveillance is reported real time as it it is gathered in my white surveillance van. At the time of that posting, Roderick was in fact wanting to be a griz. However, 19-20 year old kids are unpredictable. New surveillance revealed that the griz were in fact his first choice, but none other than the subject of this thread had Roderick worried. He knew that jj will most likely be back and that would mean one hell of a battle to be the starter.

 

[catdaddy7]

... Speaking of juries, Selection of such will be quite a chore. Pretty tough
to find someone who doesn't have pre-determined feelings about this.

I dont have any pre-determined feeling about it :shock:

Let me quantify my remark. I'm not saying anybody has any special insight as to
what happened in that room and I'm not gonna make any kind of moral judgement
on JJ, but in this case you're gonna have people that instantly sympathize either with
the girl or with JJ. When you add feelings for the University "Fair and Impartial" from
peers that live in the community will be challenging. Just sayin.

 

[cclarkblues]

Should you guys really be using terms like "hung jury" in a rape case?

Insensitive bastards...........think of the children





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If I were to be picked to be on a jury, it would by definition be a "hung" jury.

 

[Catsrback76]

Regardless of the outcome of this case there is going to be emotional damage done to both sides of the case. Let's assume that Johnson is innocent by trial...the question in my is simple, "would he be in any condition to even THINK about football, much less carrying the maroon and silver forward with pride?"

When the case is finally resolved, I would not expect that you would see hide nor hair of this kid, even if he is innocent simply because emotional healing won't happen on the football field. IMO

 

[gotgame75]

Again what evidence exists he was expelled??? (other than an attempt by Paoli to get "confidential" information to the public in a PR attempt? He's a great attorney but criminal defense? That ship needs (and has) a different driver.) If JJ was expelled and the decision held up in the time frames specified, he'd be gone. Most of this is supposition on Egriz.

Dean, I'll let you finish the semester and then you leave, I'm the final authority, Couture is gone

Dave is being assisted in this trial by Kirsten Pabst Lacroix, the former county attorney and Van Valkenburg's old heir apparent. Kirsten is very respected in the legal community and a very capable trial attorney. I think a lot of people were questioning JJ's pick of Paoli for this trial as Dave doesn't normally practice criminal defense. With Lacroix on board, this changes everything.

I know a lot people in the criminal defense community in Missoula and most, if not all, feel JJ has an excellent chance at acquittal. While the Student Conduct Code presents another challenge to JJ's return, the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality. This is why JJ has been allowed to continue taking classes at the University in spite of his "conviction" of violating the Conduct Code. Suffice to say, the BoR is very nervous at the mountain of litigation coming their way in the event of a not guilty verdict. While all of this by no means ensures JJ's return, the prospect is much brighter than it once seemed.

 

[Cats2506]

Again what evidence exists he was expelled??? (other than an attempt by Paoli to get "confidential" information to the public in a PR attempt? He's a great attorney but criminal defense? That ship needs (and has) a different driver.) If JJ was expelled and the decision held up in the time frames specified, he'd be gone. Most of this is supposition on Egriz.

Dean, I'll let you finish the semester and then you leave, I'm the final authority, Couture is gone

Dave is being assisted in this trial by Kirsten Pabst Lacroix, the former county attorney and Van Valkenburg's old heir apparent. Kirsten is very respected in the legal community and a very capable trial attorney. I think a lot of people were questioning JJ's pick of Paoli for this trial as Dave doesn't normally practice criminal defense. With Lacroix on board, this changes everything.

I know a lot people in the criminal defense community in Missoula and most, if not all, feel JJ has an excellent chance at acquittal. While the Student Conduct Code presents another challenge to JJ's return, the BoR (via Cal Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality. This is why JJ has been allowed to continue taking classes at the University in spite of his "conviction" of violating the Conduct Code. Suffice to say, the BoR is very nervous at the mountain of litigation coming their way in the event of a not guilty verdict. While all of this by no means ensures JJ's return, the prospect is much brighter than it once seemed.

I must have missed the article where "the BoR (via Cal Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality"

source please

 

[reinell30]

I stand behind JJ no matter what happens. When he is found completely innocent, he better be given the opportunity to come back to the Griz Football team. If for some reason he is not allowed, My donations to UM will cease immediately! Unless other illegal activity has evolved...

 

[Grizbacker1]

It is a fact that JJ has stated not only that he would, but that he will come back and play after found not guilty. I can see why many would be bitter and leave but I believe JJ sees it as his "revenge" to all the nay sayers and people who declared him guilty before trial. And rest assured that when he is found not guilty and it is politically correct to do so, Mick is 100% in JJ's corner and will make that clear at the proper time.

That’s all my surveillance has revealed.

This is the truth. Also, the Honor Court proceedings are continuing as we speak.

No they aren't. get real

 

[gotgame75]

Again what evidence exists he was expelled??? (other than an attempt by Paoli to get "confidential" information to the public in a PR attempt? He's a great attorney but criminal defense? That ship needs (and has) a different driver.) If JJ was expelled and the decision held up in the time frames specified, he'd be gone. Most of this is supposition on Egriz.

Dean, I'll let you finish the semester and then you leave, I'm the final authority, Couture is gone

Dave is being assisted in this trial by Kirsten Pabst Lacroix, the former county attorney and Van Valkenburg's old heir apparent. Kirsten is very respected in the legal community and a very capable trial attorney. I think a lot of people were questioning JJ's pick of Paoli for this trial as Dave doesn't normally practice criminal defense. With Lacroix on board, this changes everything.

I know a lot people in the criminal defense community in Missoula and most, if not all, feel JJ has an excellent chance at acquittal. While the Student Conduct Code presents another challenge to JJ's return, the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality. This is why JJ has been allowed to continue taking classes at the University in spite of his "conviction" of violating the Conduct Code. Suffice to say, the BoR is very nervous at the mountain of litigation coming their way in the event of a not guilty verdict. While all of this by no means ensures JJ's return, the prospect is much brighter than it once seemed.

I must have missed the article where "the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality"

source please

Why do you think JJ is being allowed to take classes in spite of being convicted of 3 separate Conduct Code violations that would normally ensure expulsion ? Pretty common sense if you're willing to read between the lines. In addition, I know several people who have been closely involved with the defense and that's what I've been told. I don't understand what's at all questionable about my assertion. The BoR is trying to protect the University as much as possible in the event of an acquittal. Hardly earthshaking stuff there pal.

 

[MNGriz04]

That’s all my surveillance has revealed.

Didn't your surveillance say that Roderick was going to be a Griz?




:lol:

 

[JAKEweezy93]

does ne1 know if they gonna let him go to the foresters ball next month???

 

[poorgriz]

I stand behind JJ no matter what happens. When he is found completely innocent, he better be given the opportunity to come back to the Griz Football team. If for some reason he is not allowed, My donations to UM will cease immediately! Unless other illegal activity has evolved...

So you're cool with it if it turns out he raped the girl? Normally I'd say that is surprising... but given the mouth breathers on this board, not so much...

 

[MNGriz04]

... Speaking of juries, Selection of such will be quite a chore. Pretty tough
to find someone who doesn't have pre-determined feelings about this.

I dont have any pre-determined feeling about it :shock:

400 people are in the jury pool, that they get to choose from..

How many are scat fans?

 

[msuhunter]

I stand behind JJ no matter what happens. When he is found completely innocent, he better be given the opportunity to come back to the Griz Football team. If for some reason he is not allowed, My donations to UM will cease immediately! Unless other illegal activity has evolved...

oh yes ... because you were there and know exactly what happened ... :roll:

 

[nzone]

Regardless of the outcome of this case there is going to be emotional damage done to both sides of the case. Let's assume that Johnson is innocent by trial...the question in my is simple, "would he be in any condition to even THINK about football, much less carrying the maroon and silver forward with pride?"

When the case is finally resolved, I would not expect that you would see hide nor hair of this kid, even if he is innocent simply because emotional healing won't happen on the football field. IMO

If I had to guess JJ is looking forward to this trial. Get this mess cleared up and get moving forward again. When he is found "innocent by trial(nice choice of words by the way)" I'm sure he will be exhausted but emotionally damaged is a bit of a stretch and if all indications are true would move onto the next step of reinstatement. Maroon and Silver goes along way my friend and just because you may think we are down and out I have no doubt if JJ finds the field again he will see the 26,000 maroon and silver backers in the stands very excited about his return. Not the administrators in main hall. By the way emotional healing could take place on the football field. An environment he knows and likes and where his teammates appreciate him. By the way when he is found innocent cat fans can only hope we don't see hide nor hair of him.

 

[tnt]

.....I have no doubt if JJ finds the field again he will see the 26,000 maroon and silver backers in the stands very excited about his return. Not the administrators in main hall.......

I wouldn't be so sure of that, an innocent verdict would go a long way of repairing the "rape capital" image that has been hurting so many areas. In strange sense their cou;d have been a push from main Hall for the trial because they can't lose. (in the PR field anyway)

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Should you guys really be using terms like "hung jury" in a rape case?

Safe to say no one from this board will be summoned.

Wrong..............stay tuned

 

[Cats2506]

Again what evidence exists he was expelled??? (other than an attempt by Paoli to get "confidential" information to the public in a PR attempt? He's a great attorney but criminal defense? That ship needs (and has) a different driver.) If JJ was expelled and the decision held up in the time frames specified, he'd be gone. Most of this is supposition on Egriz.

Dean, I'll let you finish the semester and then you leave, I'm the final authority, Couture is gone

Dave is being assisted in this trial by Kirsten Pabst Lacroix, the former county attorney and Van Valkenburg's old heir apparent. Kirsten is very respected in the legal community and a very capable trial attorney. I think a lot of people were questioning JJ's pick of Paoli for this trial as Dave doesn't normally practice criminal defense. With Lacroix on board, this changes everything.

I know a lot people in the criminal defense community in Missoula and most, if not all, feel JJ has an excellent chance at acquittal. While the Student Conduct Code presents another challenge to JJ's return, the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality. This is why JJ has been allowed to continue taking classes at the University in spite of his "conviction" of violating the Conduct Code. Suffice to say, the BoR is very nervous at the mountain of litigation coming their way in the event of a not guilty verdict. While all of this by no means ensures JJ's return, the prospect is much brighter than it once seemed.

I must have missed the article where "the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality"

source please

Why do you think JJ is being allowed to take classes in spite of being convicted of 3 separate Conduct Code violations that would normally ensure expulsion ? Pretty common sense if you're willing to read between the lines. In addition, I know several people who have been closely involved with the defense and that's what I've been told. I don't understand what's at all questionable about my assertion. The BoR is trying to protect the University as much as possible in the event of an acquittal. Hardly earthshaking stuff there pal.

So your post like most here, is based on nothing more than pure speculation

 

[gotgame75]

Dave is being assisted in this trial by Kirsten Pabst Lacroix, the former county attorney and Van Valkenburg's old heir apparent. Kirsten is very respected in the legal community and a very capable trial attorney. I think a lot of people were questioning JJ's pick of Paoli for this trial as Dave doesn't normally practice criminal defense. With Lacroix on board, this changes everything.

I know a lot people in the criminal defense community in Missoula and most, if not all, feel JJ has an excellent chance at acquittal. While the Student Conduct Code presents another challenge to JJ's return, the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality. This is why JJ has been allowed to continue taking classes at the University in spite of his "conviction" of violating the Conduct Code. Suffice to say, the BoR is very nervous at the mountain of litigation coming their way in the event of a not guilty verdict. While all of this by no means ensures JJ's return, the prospect is much brighter than it once seemed.

I must have missed the article where "the BoR (via Clay Christian) has already called into the question the Code's constitutionality"

source please

Why do you think JJ is being allowed to take classes in spite of being convicted of 3 separate Conduct Code violations that would normally ensure expulsion ? Pretty common sense if you're willing to read between the lines. In addition, I know several people who have been closely involved with the defense and that's what I've been told. I don't understand what's at all questionable about my assertion. The BoR is trying to protect the University as much as possible in the event of an acquittal. Hardly earthshaking stuff there pal.

So your post like most here, is based on nothing more than pure speculation

Not speculation on my part at all. Simply what I've been told by people who are involved directly in the case. Before you criticize, what exactly are you bringing to the table??? And what exactly is even remotely controversial about what I'm saying?

 

[George Ferguson]

I just hope you guys' sources "people directly involved with the case" aren't the same sources that said Roderick signed with the Griz a month ago. If it is the same people, and they are saying it's a slam dunk that JJ will be aquitted and will be back with the Griz, than he's IN BIG TROUBLE...