Which 4?

[BadlandsGrizFan]

No it won’t. The win literally does not count. I don’t know why people don’t understand this concept.

Also if we’re a “bubble” team with wins over
Butler
UtahTech
Idaho State
No Colorado
Portland State
And idk UC Davis.

I would rather they just leave us out of the playoffs and we can start the new coaching hire early.

I’m responding only to say that I like the way you listed the teams. It fits my eye. If you include “Also”, it’s almost a right triangle.

I am a true artist I don’t even have to try

 

[CatsRback]

Doubtful, it was D2 win. By 7 at home. Not appealing. Need more than 6 D1 with the griz’s weak SOS to be in the playoffs.

Yeah. That loss on 11/18 is going to hurt the GRIZ SOS.. If only our SOS could be as high as the MsDUI’s staff cumulative BAC.

FIFY, gris couldn’t handle our SOS this fall. Why ru so butt hurt these days Everettgris?

 

[AZGrizFan]

This explains exactly why the NAU game was so important, and to come out so flat was inexcusable. We now need 4 wins, which means beat the two we’re supposed to and now win both toss ups against Sac and Davis. I don’t see this team competing with Idaho (especially in Moscow) or MSU at this point. And I believe winning those 4 is a tall task unless they somehow amazingly gel…

Each game is winnable. Yes, too bad with NAU.

You quit on the team. Why would you care about this?

Sure. Miracles CAN happen, I suppose.

 

[CatsRback]

Each game is winnable. Yes, too bad with NAU.

You quit on the team. Why would you care about this?

Sure. Miracles CAN happen, I suppose.

1980. Still an all time classic.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Where are the cited SOS numbers coming from?

 

[Ut-Grizfan]

This explains exactly why the NAU game was so important, and to come out so flat was inexcusable. We now need 4 wins, which means beat the two we’re supposed to and now win both toss ups against Sac and Davis. I don’t see this team competing with Idaho (especially in Moscow) or MSU at this point. And I believe winning those 4 is a tall task unless they somehow amazingly gel…

Each game is winnable. Yes, too bad with NAU.

You quit on the team. Why would you care about this?

Pointing out the facts and the truth doesn't mean he hopes the team fails nor does it mean he has stopped rooting for them. You need to grow up and knock off that childish accusation you love to throw out. You can root for the Griz and hate what this coaching staff has failed to achieve in 6 years, being a "yes man" and being to scared to criticize and challenge just means you have 0 spine.

 

[ordigger]

Montana gets in with 7 wins for no other reason than money. NCAA knows that the guarantee will be the best for round 1. So not only in, but a home game too. Money talks.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Montana gets in with 7 wins for no other reason than money. NCAA knows that the guarantee will be the best for round 1. So not only in, but a home game too. Money talks.

My former playoff committee friends thinks that too. That dumb Rob poster thinks an 8-3 record makes UM a bubble team. I think 7-4 makes us a bubble team, but your view may be right (depending on the other bubble teams' situations).

 

[EverettGriz]

Yeah. That loss on 11/18 is going to hurt the GRIZ SOS.. If only our SOS could be as high as the MsDUI’s staff cumulative BAC.

FIFY, gris couldn’t handle our SOS this fall. Why ru so butt hurt these days Everettgris?

English above the bub graduate level is the preferred language on eGRIZ.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Here are the first two FCS playoff selection criteria:

"Overall record

Record against Division I opponents (an institution with fewer than six Division I wins may place that team in jeopardy of not being selected)"

Why would there be an "overall record" criteria if the only games considered for the playoffs were DI games? Why wouldn't there just be that D-I category?

What does Overall Record mean? Doesn't it mean the record of every game played? Nothing is said to be excluded. If D2's weren't to be counted in "overall record", why wouldn't the playoff criteria say that? Why wouldn't the criteria or the ncaa mention D2 somewhere? Why not just have the second criteria of DI wins, if D2 isn't counted at all?

If D2 games aren't counted at all, why did the playoff selection chair say that a 9-2 bubble team wasn't selected because of SOS and having played (a weak) D2 (Albany St). The D2 game was clearly considered last year in selection.

Why is there no mention of D2 anywhere n the FCS playoff selection criteria, if D2 games are to be completed ignored? At least, I didn't see any mention of D2.

Why does there seem not to be any publicly available mention or statement that D2 games are not to be considered at all in FCS playoff selection?

Help me out. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Here this guy definitely has more knowledge than you on the FCS and the playoffs.

“ For the teams looking to position themselves in the playoff seeds or earn an at-large bid, non-D1 wins are not included on playoff resumes.”

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-non-counter-games-bzbz/

Hey Rob, you and Herder were and are completely wrong on this. D2 games and wins are considered by the selection committee. You owe me an apology. In fact, a bunch of them.

 

[Griziron]

Haslem was asked about how D2 games factor in to playoff selection during the UCD pregame radio show. I believe he is the chair of the selection committee this year. He said that the D2 results could be considered in evaluating and comparing teams. The example he used was if SDSU (which played a D2) and UM ended up with the same overall record, the committee would compare the D2 results along with the overall strength of schedule. He didn't discuss how two teams with the same number of wins, but with one of them having a D2 win while the other had all D1 wins, would be compared.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Haslem was asked about how D2 games factor in to playoff selection during the UCD pregame radio show. I believe he is the chair of the selection committee this year. He said that the D2 results could be considered in evaluating and comparing teams. The example he used was if SDSU (which played a D2) and UM ended up with the same overall record, the committee would compare the D2 results along with the overall strength of schedule. He didn't discuss how two teams with the same number of wins, but with one of them having a D2 win while the other had all D1 winds, would be compared.

Interesting. I was not aware of that. Well, he would have been up to speed on the subject, as he would have seen my email to the committee ahead of his interview. My email analyzed the criteria/rules, in a semi-lawyer fashion, and set forth my views. Truax, last year's committee chair, had told him that I had contacted Truax on this first, a little bird told me. My impression is that the committee would look at overall SOS, including the D2. And while the committee would like DI wins, they would look deeper at the actual teams played and would not decide on form over substance (i.e. the team with the most DI wins gets selected, even though the D2 was better than some of the DI teams the first team played). The committee wants the best teams; they don't want the teams that have won the most DI games (just like they don't do that now). Thx.

 

[Wolf777]

My former playoff committee friends thinks that too. That dumb Rob poster thinks an 8-3 record makes UM a bubble team. I think 7-4 makes us a bubble team, but your view may be right (depending on the other bubble teams' situations).

Just trying to follow along. Did you mean your friend that used to be on the playoff committee, or that you used to have a friend?

 

[mtgriz]

Each game is winnable. Yes, too bad with NAU.

You quit on the team. Why would you care about this?

Pointing out the facts and the truth doesn't mean he hopes the team fails nor does it mean he has stopped rooting for them. You need to grow up and knock off that childish accusation you love to throw out. You can root for the Griz and hate what this coaching staff has failed to achieve in 6 years, being a "yes man" and being to scared to criticize and challenge just means you have 0 spine.

Very well stated.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Each game is winnable. Yes, too bad with NAU.

You quit on the team. Why would you care about this?

Pointing out the facts and the truth doesn't mean he hopes the team fails nor does it mean he has stopped rooting for them. You need to grow up and knock off that childish accusation you love to throw out. You can root for the Griz and hate what this coaching staff has failed to achieve in 6 years, being a "yes man" and being to scared to criticize and challenge just means you have 0 spine.

He quit on the team by saying he would no longer come to games and was dropping his season tickets, as well certain negative posts.

Making up and distorting facts are not “pointing out facts and truth”. And posters like you do the same thing because you don’t understand football and are just negative people.

You don’t know what the truth is. And you refuse to admit what the coaching staff has achieved.

 

[Oldschoolhornet]

So, just what has this coaching staff achieved? At this point Davis is the signature win and anyone who watched that game knows they are not a very good football team. Average at best. Let the Griz win this week before you start touting this coaching staff...then people might start to listen.
It's obvious you never coached the game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Pointing out the facts and the truth doesn't mean he hopes the team fails nor does it mean he has stopped rooting for them. You need to grow up and knock off that childish accusation you love to throw out. You can root for the Griz and hate what this coaching staff has failed to achieve in 6 years, being a "yes man" and being to scared to criticize and challenge just means you have 0 spine.

He quit on the team by saying he would no longer come to games and was dropping his season tickets, as well certain negative posts.

Making up and distorting facts are not “pointing out facts and truth”. And posters like you do the same thing because you don’t understand football and are just negative people.

You don’t know what the truth is. And you refuse to admit what the coaching staff has achieved.

I was a huge fan for over 40 years before I ever owned season tickets (which I’ve owned for just three years). There’s no other way I can express my dissatisfaction with the team, it’s progress and the state of the program than through financials. Every game is a $2500 evolution for me. I simply can’t justify the expense at this point…I honestly don’t care WHAT you think…

I don’t recall you calling out Kem in 2017 when he pulled HIS financial support/tickets in the Stitt era? This selective outrage is sooooo you.

On another note, I stated that, given the results of the NAU game they now needed to win both the games we were supposed to win (PSU and UNC) and both the tossups (UCD and Sac). We’re 1/4 of the way there.

 

[mthoopsfan]

So, just what has this coaching staff achieved? At this point Davis is the signature win and anyone who watched that game knows they are not a very good football team. Average at best. Let the Griz win this week before you start touting this coaching staff...then people might start to listen.
It's obvious you never coached the game.

For the umpteenth time, the coaching staff brought UM back from no. 33 or so and no playoffs, to, in years 2, 3 and 4, nos. 6, 6 and 14 in post-season poll ranking, playoffs each year, as well as wins, and average post-season ranking in those years better than all but 4 FCS teams. 10 wins in 2 seasons. 5-1 this season so far. Plus record season ticket sales and record crowds this year.

Can you not understand that that is fairly good progress (not enough, of course)? I wasn't touting the coaching staff. I was countering BS and incorrect trashing from likes of you.

Like I said, some of you don't know what truth and reality are, and don't understand the game of football and Griz football. I'm just trying to help you out and support the team.

 

[mthoopsfan]

He quit on the team by saying he would no longer come to games and was dropping his season tickets, as well certain negative posts.

Making up and distorting facts are not “pointing out facts and truth”. And posters like you do the same thing because you don’t understand football and are just negative people.

You don’t know what the truth is. And you refuse to admit what the coaching staff has achieved.

I was a huge fan for over 40 years before I ever owned season tickets (which I’ve owned for just three years). There’s no other way I can express my dissatisfaction with the team, it’s progress and the state of the program than through financials. Every game is a $2500 evolution for me. I simply can’t justify the expense at this point…I honestly don’t care WHAT you think…

I don’t recall you calling out Kem in 2017 when he pulled HIS financial support/tickets in the Stitt era? This selective outrage is sooooo you.

On another note, I stated that, given the results of the NAU game they now needed to win both the games we were supposed to win (PSU and UNC) and both the tossups (UCD and Sac). We’re 1/4 of the way there.

I assume Kem always kept coming to games and kept his season tickets. Contrary to you. Everyone can do what they want with financial support. Either way works for me. And, as I have said, Kem played for the Griz. He has special status from me. I don't care if you care. I will keep saying what I want to say. Get back to building your south Texas wall.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I was a huge fan for over 40 years before I ever owned season tickets (which I’ve owned for just three years). There’s no other way I can express my dissatisfaction with the team, it’s progress and the state of the program than through financials. Every game is a $2500 evolution for me. I simply can’t justify the expense at this point…I honestly don’t care WHAT you think…

I don’t recall you calling out Kem in 2017 when he pulled HIS financial support/tickets in the Stitt era? This selective outrage is sooooo you.

On another note, I stated that, given the results of the NAU game they now needed to win both the games we were supposed to win (PSU and UNC) and both the tossups (UCD and Sac). We’re 1/4 of the way there.

I assume Kem always kept coming to games and kept his season tickets. Contrary to you. Everyone can do what they want with financial support. Either way works for me. And, as I have said, Kem played for the Griz. He has special status from me. I don't care if you care. I will keep saying what I want to say. Get back to building your south Texas wall.

Lol. Kem played for the Griz. Selective outrage…so apropos from the likes of you.

Oh, and I didn’t donate a DIME for the first 30+ years of my fandom either. Does that make me a bad fan?

No more donations, no season tickets, until I see real change in the leadership.

And I WISH we were building the wall. Even faster.