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What to expect this year

MTGRZ said:
PhxGriz said:
MTGRZ said:
grizeyes said:
One reason, I think, so many confuse BH as a ground and pound coach was his teams were very physical. Hard nosed, in your face, football. They were balanced but physical. Kind of what the scats have evolved into and our Griz away from over the last few years (IMO) - hard, physical, football.

I fully expect BH to fix that in short order!

GO GRIZ!

Agreed 100%. From what I understand, this should start in the trenches. Without disrespect to the previous coaching staff, I look forward to more of a physical "attitude" on this team. I believe the Griz have the players in place to thrive on more physicality.
I said it awhile ago, but with rule changes, I don't think the "physicality" will be as noticeable.
Saw a lot of what would get called for taunting now.

With that being said, I think the Griz will be more physical, but not how we remember...those days are gone.

Yeah, that's a good point. The game has changed. Perhaps more disciplined physicality? I feel like Strahm would have LOVED to play for Hauck back in his previous stint. You are right though, have to be careful not to be TOO animated/emotional about physicality in 2018.

Strahm told me last year that he would have loved to play for Hauck the the past 3 years.
 
I agree with just about all of the above. One of the things that has not been mentioned was BH's propensity for ball control. I saw a stat somewhere that under Hauck UM teams controlled TOP in something like 78% of the games they played. That may be one of the reasons Bobby's offense was considered stodgy but effective, (Give me 3.5 yards a play and I'll bury you!), seems to have been the philosophy. It may not be flashy but it does work. That may be one of the reasons that his defenses were so good. Weber seems to have taken this philosophy to heart the last couple years and I see a lot of similarity in what Weber is doing now to what we used to do.

I look for three things to improve immediately this coming season. The first is the aforementioned TOP. Second is defense and the third of course is special teams.

I am looking forward to this coming season more than I have in quite some time!
 
I understand that BH plans to run a balanced attack with a fullback and always one and a sometimes two tight ends, a lot like Stanford’s offense minus Bryce Love.lol
 
Totally off message and maybe off putting to some but I’m interested to understand why the f**k did the fellas down at the land grant college decide to move Troy Anderson to lb permenantly this season that’s what I have heard from my friends in Dillon. The kid was recruited to play safety or lb and then after a week into fall camp last year they converted him to running back, he played qb and safety in high school, and he ends up being the first true freshman to start there at rb since 1990, started their first game against NDSU, scores 2 tds against the Griz, is the teams 3rd leading rusher, is BSC freshman of the year and as a true freshman he was the fastest guy on the team and he’s 6-3 and 225. The kid is a specimen and an incredible natural athlete. I followed him in HS and saw him play in the state A basketball tournament last year where he lead the beave to the state chipper after also leading them to the state A chipper in football. He had a monster two handed slam in traffic in the 4th qtr of the semi final game against butte central, which you never see in a HS state tournament game because the level of competition is pretty even and guys are dragging in the 4th qrts of games. I also think he ran the fastest time in the 100m for all classes, 10.77, as a senior. He’s a once in generation athlete. He should have been the GPOY. Dick was a great high school player but he played for a AA school, and only played offense, and was redshirted and now is playing for Rocky, whereas Anderson was BSC freshman of the year after getting converted to rb in fall camp. Wow. Why would you play your fastest most athletic guy on your team at one of your 4 linebacker positions rather then making him your feature back. He s got size, speed is durable and can also catch passes why would you make him only one of your 4 linebackers? Are they high? I think it will bode will for the Griz, why didn’t they redshirt him and then start him for 4 seasons at one position to get every drop out of his incredible athletic talent. Anybody from down their want to weigh in on this, you obviously have way more insight then I have. Anyone, anyone, Bueler? Thanks
 
Dutch Lane said:
Totally off message and maybe off putting to some but I’m interested to understand why the f**k did the fellas down at the land grant college decide to move Troy Anderson to lb permenantly this season that’s what I have heard from my friends in Dillon...Anyone, anyone, Bueler? Thanks

Kem would want me to tell you that Buss was a pretty fair HS RB when he was recruited to Montana. I’m pretty sure all of us would have said his playing LB is the best call they could have made. All these kids likely could have played multiple spots, and in Anderson’s case, likely will. They recruited help @ RB @ tractor pull state, a B10 guy to boot. Bet you a beer or two you see him on offense @ least a time or two in 2018.

Here’s my take - defense & great QB play win championships.
 
The thing about Anderson though is he played quarterback in high school at a high level and he has a cannon for an arm, yet they recruit him as a safety/linebacker. They find out he’s the fastest guy on the team they are short running backs so they convert him to running back a position he has never played. He started playing quarter back as a kid and played in two state chippers and won it as a senior. Why not recruit him to play quarterback then. He’s bigger and faster then any of there qbs. The Griz recruited dick to play qb and Graves this recruiting class to play qb. They have a real bias against Montana high school qbs. Anderson would be a beast as qb. Lol. I just think they are nuts to squander the him as one of 4 linebackers. They lost 3-4 rbs over the winter and it looks like their transfer from Indian is going to be their feature back. The guy is big but his is slow and will never be able to run out side or catch like Anderson. Isn’t the adage your best athlete is your quarterback? Anderson is their best athlete and also big and powerful but also is the fastest guy on the team. At the latest BSC track meet the winning time in the 100m was 10.7 that’s what Anderson ran in high school can imagine how fast and strong he is now after a winter of conditioning and weights. This kid should be starting somewhere in the PAC 12. Yeah the fastest guy in the BSC in track lol is gonna play linebacker. I guess it just bothers me that they think they have to go out of state to recruit their “talent.” Just don’t understand their calculus. I agree they will have a fire drill half way through the season and start giving him the ball and say yeah this was our offensive plan along. I think the griz will dodge a bullet if he only plays lb all season. Thanks
 
Dutch Lane said:
I understand that BH plans to run a balanced attack with a fullback and always one and a sometimes two tight ends, a lot like Stanford’s offense minus Bryce Love.lol

Not totally correct. There may be some situations they run two TE sets with a fullback but I think you will be surprised what this offense actually looks like.
 
Urgent signal from the head ball coach.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/coach_hauck/status/981216374436503552?s=21[/tweet]
 
Settle down Dutch. Maybe a space or two in those novels you wrote.

You seem to be pretty concerned with how the coaches will utilize Troy. Very off subject for this thread however...

The coaches have already said he’s too much of an athlete and weapon to not get him the ball from time to time. My guess is that he gets in on offense every game, sometimes as a decoy, sometimes as the ball carrier, maybe getting 5ish touches a game.

He’s the real deal at this level and would probably start at multiple positions if given the chance. That’s a good problem to have. With some of the RB’s on the roster, Murray obviously getting a lot of touches, and maybe a couple of the guys that will be coming in as freshman this fall, they should be ok with ball carriers.

What they need is pass rushers and someone to replace Bignell, Andersen appears to be part of that solution and I’m sure he’ll do it well.
 
Catsrgrood said:
Settle down Dutch. Maybe a space or two in those novels you wrote.

You seem to be pretty concerned with how the coaches will utilize Troy. Very off subject for this thread however...

The coaches have already said he’s too much of an athlete and weapon to not get him the ball from time to time. My guess is that he gets in on offense every game, sometimes as a decoy, sometimes as the ball carrier, maybe getting 5ish touches a game.

He’s the real deal at this level and would probably start at multiple positions if given the chance. That’s a good problem to have. With some of the RB’s on the roster, Murray obviously getting a lot of touches, and maybe a couple of the guys that will be coming in as freshman this fall, they should be ok with ball carriers.

What they need is pass rushers and someone to replace Bignell, Andersen appears to be part of that solution and I’m sure he’ll do it well.

Ya, all that. Couple other comments on TA. He's a freak athlete as you say, would be an incredible RB if only playing that position, but the coaches feel he's an NFL caliber player at LB. Plus we're pretty loaded at RB. One other correction, TA isn't the fastest player on the team, Chris Murray is. Actually, Chris is probably the fastest player in the conference. But yes, the Bobcats do have a lot of speed. To echo others' comments, Choate said TA will play both ways for his entire career as a Bobcat.
 
poorgriz said:
Catsrgrood said:
Settle down Dutch. Maybe a space or two in those novels you wrote.

You seem to be pretty concerned with how the coaches will utilize Troy. Very off subject for this thread however...

The coaches have already said he’s too much of an athlete and weapon to not get him the ball from time to time. My guess is that he gets in on offense every game, sometimes as a decoy, sometimes as the ball carrier, maybe getting 5ish touches a game.

He’s the real deal at this level and would probably start at multiple positions if given the chance. That’s a good problem to have. With some of the RB’s on the roster, Murray obviously getting a lot of touches, and maybe a couple of the guys that will be coming in as freshman this fall, they should be ok with ball carriers.

What they need is pass rushers and someone to replace Bignell, Andersen appears to be part of that solution and I’m sure he’ll do it well.

Ya, all that. Couple other comments on TA. He's a freak athlete as you say, would be an incredible RB if only playing that position, but the coaches feel he's an NFL caliber player at LB. Plus we're pretty loaded at RB. One other correction, TA isn't the fastest player on the team, Chris Murray is. Actually, Chris is probably the fastest player in the conference. But yes, the Bobcats do have a lot of speed. To echo others' comments, Choate said TA will play both ways for his entire career as a Bobcat.

Have all your STEM programs failed to keep your own website going? No one here cares. Is the Frontier Conference Website down? You had a Dutch kicker in the leather helmet days who was decent, other than that; rodeo, skiing, and .......? BYE BYE
 
You are a 100% right...we won games that left you shaking your head afterwards (in a good way). Maybe its just been the law of averages playing out under the post Hauck/pre Hauck period. Time to win those games again!
 
SaskGriz said:
poorgriz said:
Catsrgrood said:
Settle down Dutch. Maybe a space or two in those novels you wrote.

You seem to be pretty concerned with how the coaches will utilize Troy. Very off subject for this thread however...

The coaches have already said he’s too much of an athlete and weapon to not get him the ball from time to time. My guess is that he gets in on offense every game, sometimes as a decoy, sometimes as the ball carrier, maybe getting 5ish touches a game.

He’s the real deal at this level and would probably start at multiple positions if given the chance. That’s a good problem to have. With some of the RB’s on the roster, Murray obviously getting a lot of touches, and maybe a couple of the guys that will be coming in as freshman this fall, they should be ok with ball carriers.

What they need is pass rushers and someone to replace Bignell, Andersen appears to be part of that solution and I’m sure he’ll do it well.

Ya, all that. Couple other comments on TA. He's a freak athlete as you say, would be an incredible RB if only playing that position, but the coaches feel he's an NFL caliber player at LB. Plus we're pretty loaded at RB. One other correction, TA isn't the fastest player on the team, Chris Murray is. Actually, Chris is probably the fastest player in the conference. But yes, the Bobcats do have a lot of speed. To echo others' comments, Choate said TA will play both ways for his entire career as a Bobcat.

Have all your STEM programs failed to keep your own website going? No one here cares. Is the Frontier Conference Website down? You had a Dutch kicker in the leather helmet days who was decent, other than that; rodeo, skiing, and .......? BYE BYE

Sask, check the post by Dutch kid or whatever his name is before you get too bent out of shape here. He started the Cats talk on this thread and asked for input on it...
 
Catsrgrood said:
SaskGriz said:
poorgriz said:
Catsrgrood said:
Settle down Dutch. Maybe a space or two in those novels you wrote.

You seem to be pretty concerned with how the coaches will utilize Troy. Very off subject for this thread however...

The coaches have already said he’s too much of an athlete and weapon to not get him the ball from time to time. My guess is that he gets in on offense every game, sometimes as a decoy, sometimes as the ball carrier, maybe getting 5ish touches a game.

He’s the real deal at this level and would probably start at multiple positions if given the chance. That’s a good problem to have. With some of the RB’s on the roster, Murray obviously getting a lot of touches, and maybe a couple of the guys that will be coming in as freshman this fall, they should be ok with ball carriers.

What they need is pass rushers and someone to replace Bignell, Andersen appears to be part of that solution and I’m sure he’ll do it well.

Ya, all that. Couple other comments on TA. He's a freak athlete as you say, would be an incredible RB if only playing that position, but the coaches feel he's an NFL caliber player at LB. Plus we're pretty loaded at RB. One other correction, TA isn't the fastest player on the team, Chris Murray is. Actually, Chris is probably the fastest player in the conference. But yes, the Bobcats do have a lot of speed. To echo others' comments, Choate said TA will play both ways for his entire career as a Bobcat.

Have all your STEM programs failed to keep your own website going? No one here cares. Is the Frontier Conference Website down? You had a Dutch kicker in the leather helmet days who was decent, other than that; rodeo, skiing, and .......? BYE BYE

Sask, check the post by Dutch kid or whatever his name is before you get too bent out of shape here. He started the Cats talk on this thread and asked for input on it...

By Dutch Kid I meant Jan Stensrud, kicked for you guys right before electricity.
 
SaskGriz said:
Catsrgrood said:
SaskGriz said:
poorgriz said:
Ya, all that. Couple other comments on TA. He's a freak athlete as you say, would be an incredible RB if only playing that position, but the coaches feel he's an NFL caliber player at LB. Plus we're pretty loaded at RB. One other correction, TA isn't the fastest player on the team, Chris Murray is. Actually, Chris is probably the fastest player in the conference. But yes, the Bobcats do have a lot of speed. To echo others' comments, Choate said TA will play both ways for his entire career as a Bobcat.

Have all your STEM programs failed to keep your own website going? No one here cares. Is the Frontier Conference Website down? You had a Dutch kicker in the leather helmet days who was decent, other than that; rodeo, skiing, and .......? BYE BYE

Sask, check the post by Dutch kid or whatever his name is before you get too bent out of shape here. He started the Cats talk on this thread and asked for input on it...

By Dutch Kid I meant Jan Stensrud, kicked for you guys right before electricity.

I’m talking about the post by Dutch Lane right above my first post. Not talking about Jan...
 
I honestly don’t give one shit about how MSU uses Anderson.

RB? Yeah. QB? Go for it. LB? Whatever. OT? Why not?

Shit, let him get up and join the drum line. Kick Waded out of her booth and let him be president. I don’t care.

Can we go back to arguing about the Griz now?
 
uofmman1122 said:
I honestly don’t give one shit about how MSU uses Anderson.

RB? Yeah. QB? Go for it. LB? Whatever. OT? Why not?

Shit, let him get up and join the drum line. Kick Waded out of her booth and let him be president. I don’t care.

Can we go back to arguing about the Griz now?

That’s what I figured on here. Honestly don’t blame you at all, not sure why Dutch Lane brought it up on here. Wasn’t relevant in any way.
But he asked for input, I gave it.
 
grizeyes said:
One reason, I think, so many confuse BH as a ground and pound coach was his teams were very physical. Hard nosed, in your face, football. They were balanced but physical. Kind of what the scats have evolved into and our Griz away from over the last few years (IMO) - hard, physical, football.

I fully expect BH to fix that in short order!

GO GRIZ!

Don't leave out conditioning. Haucks Griz could play 6 quarters of football and still not be gassed. I did not see that as much since he left.
 
stilwtrgrizz said:
An interesting and positive perspective. The one thing that stood out for me by the time I got done, was winning the close ones. I remembered back to those days, and remembered often marveling at the Griz finding a way to win, instead of a way to lose. Well done, and well written MTGRZ. Thanks for posting.... I for one, really enjoyed reading it. :clap: :thumb:

I agree, I remember thinking in every game, no matter the scenario that the Griz would find a way to win the game.
 

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