What the hell is up with kicker??

[Ursa Major]

I believe he is actually right footed..

Classic!

 

[cody45051]

Don't forget the other 10 guys.

One PAT is on Lider. But the film shows UND getting :clap:massive penetration :clap: right through the center on the blocked PAT, and the other partially blocked PAT.

It's not just a Lider problem right now. The coaches have to make some line adjustments as well.

Field unit is the most vulnerable piece of our game right now.

 

[chris]

Sign up egriz's very own Chris Lynn. He's 1 for 1 this year, and my guess is he was a few cocktails into the day when he booted his solid field goal attempt.

I agree Mr. eGriz himself Chris "I will kick for Dickies" Lynn may be our best option. However, the NCAA will declare him ineligible for accepting free BBQ!

We have to have somebody with skills on the men's soccer team that could beat out "I prefer to kick it wider"...Lider!

I've yet to accept my prize...

 

[Brock Landers]

Sign up egriz's very own Chris Lynn. He's 1 for 1 this year, and my guess is he was a few cocktails into the day when he booted his solid field goal attempt.

I agree Mr. eGriz himself Chris "I will kick for Dickies" Lynn may be our best option. However, the NCAA will declare him ineligible for accepting free BBQ!

We have to have somebody with skills on the men's soccer team that could beat out "I prefer to kick it wider"...Lider!

We have a men's soccer team?

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Did anyone notice Larson missed that FG right befor halftime last night on the 95 replay game...........

Pull his scholly NOW!!!

 

[Griz2k]

Serious (albeit probably dumb) question. On field goals and extra points, is it a rule that he holder be exactly 7 yards from the line of scrimmage?

 

[krammer]

Is he your real kicker or was there an injury and he is just filling in for awhile? Those extra points he was kicking were pretty damn bad! He was kicking them so low it was unbelievable.

He is terrible. Has been the whole time he has been here. Some will come on here and try to justify it by saying he is young, or he made more field goals than he missed or some other excuse, but the fact of the matter is that he isn't very good. We should go for two every time as the odds are about the same for us.

I happen to agree on this one,,,,all his kicks were too low, nothing to do with the rush and loading up on the line etc...his position is no different than any other on the team..perform or be replaced, he needs to be replaced in my view...his physical approach to the actual kick or the six inches between the ears are a problem,,,

 

[Potomac Griz]

Did anyone notice Larson missed that FG right befor halftime last night on the 95 replay game...........

Pull his scholly NOW!!!

:clap:

I swear, some people in this thread have the memory of a mentally challenged goldfish...

Here's a brief history lesson. Snyder as a sophomore? Not very good. Carpenter as a sophomore? Nope...not great either. McKnight as a sophomore? Very shaky.. In fact if you go back on eGriz, people were still bitching about McKnight before his Junior season began.

I'm confident the PAT problems will be fixed. McKnight struggled big time with PATs early in his career too, but that got worked out. Lider was 37-41 last year in PATs. McKnight was 52-57 in his freshman year.

Since I'm having a little trouble digging up historical PAT stats (thanks to GoGriz.com being complete shit) here are the FG stats for Snyder, Carpenter, and McKnight in their FR and SO seasons.

Notice any similarities?

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (52)
So - 16-30 (53.3%), 3-5 from 20-29, 5-9 from 30-39, 8-14 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)
So - 14-21 (66.7%), 4-5 from 20-29, 8-8 from 30-39, 1-7 from 40-49, 1-1 from 50+ (50)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)
So - 15-25 (60%), 6-6 from 20-29, 6-7 from 30-39, 2-7 from 40-49, 1-5 from 50+ (LG 54)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)


Guess we should've given up on Snyder, Carpenter and McKnight as kickers too huh? If the masses here on eGriz had their way none of those 3 would've likely survived their Freshman year

 

[RayWill]

Did anyone notice Larson missed that FG right befor halftime last night on the 95 replay game...........

Pull his scholly NOW!!!

:clap:

I swear, some people in this thread have the memory of a mentally challenged goldfish...

Here's a brief history lesson. Snyder as a sophomore? Not very good. Carpenter as a sophomore? Nope...not great either. McKnight as a sophomore? Very shaky.. In fact if you go back on eGriz, people were still bitching about McKnight before his Junior season began.

I'm confident the PAT problems will be fixed. McKnight struggled big time with PATs early in his career too, but that got worked out. Lider was 37-41 last year in PATs.

Since I'm having a little trouble digging up historical PAT stats (thanks to GoGriz.com being complete shit) here are the FG stats for Snyder, Carpenter, and McKnight in their FR and SO seasons.

Notice any similarities?

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (52)
So - 16-30 (53.3%), 3-5 from 20-29, 5-9 from 30-39, 8-14 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)
So - 14-21 (66.7%), 4-5 from 20-29, 8-8 from 30-39, 1-7 from 40-49, 1-1 from 50+ (50)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)
So - 15-25 (60%), 6-6 from 20-29, 6-7 from 30-39, 2-7 from 40-49, 1-5 from 50+ (LG 54)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)


Guess we should've given up on Snyder, Carpenter and McKnight as kickers too huh? If the masses here on eGriz had their way none of those 3 would've likely survived their Freshman year

Yeah but they didn't miss extra Points PATS misses is a major issue

 

[Potomac Griz]

Yeah but they didn't miss thier extra Points PATS missese is a major issue

Oh they didn't? So we didn't have Mike Ferriter kicking extra points years ago for us at one point because of all the misses?

We are 2 games into the season right now... it's not time to panic yet. I'm sure they'll get the issues with extra points figured out like we have before.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Did anyone notice Larson missed that FG right befor halftime last night on the 95 replay game...........

Pull his scholly NOW!!!

:clap:

I swear, some people in this thread have the memory of a mentally challenged goldfish...

Here's a brief history lesson. Snyder as a sophomore? Not very good. Carpenter as a sophomore? Nope...not great either. McKnight as a sophomore? Very shaky.. In fact if you go back on eGriz, people were still bitching about McKnight before his Junior season began.

I'm confident the PAT problems will be fixed. McKnight struggled big time with PATs early in his career too, but that got worked out. Lider was 37-41 last year in PATs. McKnight was 52-57 in his freshman year.

Since I'm having a little trouble digging up historical PAT stats (thanks to GoGriz.com being complete shit) here are the FG stats for Snyder, Carpenter, and McKnight in their FR and SO seasons.

Notice any similarities?

Snyder
Fr - 16-25 (64%), 7-7 from 20-29, 5-8 from 30-39, 3-8 from 40-49, 1-2 from 50+ (52)
So - 16-30 (53.3%), 3-5 from 20-29, 5-9 from 30-39, 8-14 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)

Carpenter
Fr - 18-29 (62.1%), 4-7 from 20-29, 7-10 from 30-39, 7-10 from 40-49, 0-2 from 50+ (49)
So - 14-21 (66.7%), 4-5 from 20-29, 8-8 from 30-39, 1-7 from 40-49, 1-1 from 50+ (50)

McKnight
Fr - 9-16 (56.2%), 3-5 from 20-29, 4-8 from 30-39, 2-3 from 40-49, (LG 46)
So - 15-25 (60%), 6-6 from 20-29, 6-7 from 30-39, 2-7 from 40-49, 1-5 from 50+ (LG 54)

Lider
Fr - 15-21 (71.4%), 1-1 from under 19, 7-8 from 20-29, 2-6 from 30-39, 5-6 from 40-49 (LG 46)


Guess we should've given up on Snyder, Carpenter and McKnight as kickers too huh? If the masses here on eGriz had their way none of those 3 would've likely survived their Freshman year

That's because McKnight was a complete and total duesch bag!!!!!! Good kicker tho. :thumb:

 

[Potomac Griz]

That's because McKnight was a complete and total duesch bag!!!!!! Good kicker tho. :thumb:

I don't know him, and the NCAA doesn't keep stats on duechebaggery so I can't argue or agree with that

Anyway, my point is the same shit gets said about our kickers for the first 2 years of their careers here damn near every time. I bet if eGriz existed back when Snyder was kicking we'd have the same threads.

 

[Griz2k]

Yeah but they didn't miss thier extra Points PATS missese is a major issue

Oh they didn't? So we didn't have Mike Ferriter kicking extra points years ago for us at one point because of all the misses?

We are 2 games into the season right now... it's not time to panic yet. I'm sure they'll get the issues with extra points figured out like we have before.

Two games into this season, but don't forget about the 11 games last year. Lider's not a Freshman ya know.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Two games into this season, but don't forget about the 11 games last year. Lider's not a Freshman ya know.

Never said he was a Freshman. I included stats from both Freshman and Sophomore years of Carpenter, Snyder and McKnight ya know

 

[gotgame75]

At the FCS level, there is little to no excuse for missing two PATs in a season let alone 3 in a 2 game span. I'm not saying Lider can't turn it around, but right now it's a major issue that needs attention.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Yeah but they didn't miss thier extra Points PATS missese is a major issue

Oh they didn't? So we didn't have Mike Ferriter kicking extra points years ago for us at one point because of all the misses?

We are 2 games into the season right now... it's not time to panic yet. I'm sure they'll get the issues with extra points figured out like we have before.

Two games into this season, but don't forget about the 11 games last year. Lider's not a Freshman ya know.

Shhh! He could be reading this, you know?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

At the FCS level, there is little to no excuse for missing two PATs in a season let alone 3 in a 2 game span. I'm not saying Lider can't turn it around, but right now it's a major issue that needs attention.

Wrong. And how dare you even bring it up! It's clearly one of those things that goes away and never costs you big time if you just ignore it. Being critical of a kicker when he doesn't kick well is just mean.

 

[Potomac Griz]

Apparently many people here not only have the memory of a retarded goldfish, they also share the reading comprehension levels with one too :lol:

I kind of want to dig up some threads now from during, and after McKnight's sophomore year and bump them :mrgreen:

 

[Griz2k]

Two games into this season, but don't forget about the 11 games last year. Lider's not a Freshman ya know.

Never said he was a Freshman. I included stats from both Freshman and Sophomore years of Carpenter, Snyder and McKnight ya know

Yes, I read what you posted but you made it sound like he's brand new with the "2 games in" comment and I was merely pointing out that he had the exact same problem last year. I have no idea why he can hit a 45 harder but has trouble with a 19 yard PAT. Should be automatic.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Apparently many people here not only have the memory of a retarded goldfish, they also share the reading comprehension levels with one too :lol:

I kind of want to dig up some threads now from during, and after McKnight's sophomore year and bump them :mrgreen:

You had better hope he doesn't read them . . .