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What defense will we run this season?

Copper Griz said:
Look at the coordinators. Look at their history and the teams they coached at. Look at the transfers. It won’t be a 3-3-5 thankfully.
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3-3-5 might be in the CFP this season. The Rocky Long 3-3-5 base not the situational 3-3-5 that Alabama and Georgia have already played in the CFP.
 
rocklobster said:
I'm thinking something that more fits our players. I'm a Griz fan, but I feel we've been married to certain defense for a while. That defense relied upon a certain type of push uo the middle; even though we didn't have the personal for that defense. I never understood why. I'm feeling better about this year for that reason. We shall see but I feel good about our defense this year.
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Bobby Hauck was all about forcing a square peg into a round hole.
 
Griz til I die said:
Ya except after Gubner graduated we never had another dominant NT, which I would argue is maybe the most important position of the 3-3-5.
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If we couldn’t find 1 dominant interior Dlineman how were we going to find 2 for an even front? The 3-3-5 under Hauck also evolved over the years. Look at the tape from last year compared to 2023. 2023 featured more of a straight stack. The defense evolved to try to account for Gubner leaving instead of staying the exact same.
 
5280Griz said:
If we couldn’t find 1 dominant interior Dlineman how were we going to find 2 for an even front? The 3-3-5 under Hauck also evolved over the years. Look at the tape from last year compared to 2023. 2023 featured more of a straight stack. The defense evolved to try to account for Gubner leaving instead of staying the exact same.
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We don't need 2 dominant DT"s with a 4 man front. IMO we just need serviceable to good DT's. When there's 2 guys in the middle as opposed to 1 then there's more help to clog up the run lanes in the middle. Plus I'm pretty high on our DE's that I think they will do a lot of the heavy lifting.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Who says a dominant nose is the most important position? Just asking for your backup. Not disputing you.
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The most dominant year of the 3-3-5 was in 23 during Gubner's senior year. Once he left neither Pat Hayden nor Jareb Ramos could replace his production and the D took a noticeable step back.
 
Griz til I die said:
The most dominant year of the 3-3-5 was in 23 during Gubner's senior year. Once he left neither Pat Hayden nor Jareb Ramos could replace his production and the D took a noticeable step back.
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DB is also really important in the 3-3-5. AZ was pretty good last year running the 3-3-5 with an average NT but they had 4 DB get drafted to the NFL off that team.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Who says a dominant nose is the most important position? Just asking for your backup. Not disputing you.
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The obvious answer is a "dominant" nose usually requires a double team, which opens up backers or other edge type rushers to help generate pressure. This helps the DB in coverage if the timing is off or things have to happen quicker in the pass game. I think probably opens up LBs to make plays in the run game as well when there is one less blocker. I assume this is the argument for that. I think you could argue a lock down CB could also be 1A, if it forces everything away from him in the pass game and the defense can rotate to the other side. I have tried to figure out if there truly is a "most important" position in a 3-3-5 or if it is just understanding the concepts meticulously as players and executing. How many big plays were given up by poor angles or late rotations that would've been nothing if not for player/coach miscue? I don't know. Perhaps the argument shouldn't be most important but instead more of a "it is a bonus to have" type thing. What are your thoughts?
 
AZDoc said:
The obvious answer is a "dominant" nose usually requires a double team, which opens up backers or other edge type rushers to help generate pressure. This helps the DB in coverage if the timing is off or things have to happen quicker in the pass game. I think probably opens up LBs to make plays in the run game as well when there is one less blocker. I assume this is the argument for that. I think you could argue a lock down CB could also be 1A, if it forces everything away from him in the pass game and the defense can rotate to the other side. I have tried to figure out if there truly is a "most important" position in a 3-3-5 or if it is just understanding the concepts meticulously as players and executing. How many big plays were given up by poor angles or late rotations that would've been nothing if not for player/coach miscue? I don't know. Perhaps the argument shouldn't be most important but instead more of a "it is a bonus to have" type thing. What are your thoughts?
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Noses often get double teams.
 
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