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What are your feelings concerning JJ returning?
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Copper Griz said:
Appeal what? Didn't he just get acquitted? :thumb: :thumb: He could make a request to the university to be reinstated for athletics, if that's what you mean. If a given university has any principles, I would expect that to be denied due to its code of conduct.
I am simply expressing my opinion, and it would not be any difference if I was talking about UConn, Hawaii or any other school. I would expect that the university would cut its athletic ties in this case, regardless of the trial outcome.
And . . . I would expects fans to react as you are reacting (wanting the player back on your team), setting themselves up for a hugely disappointing outcome, and lashing out at the university administration when the player is not allowed to return. Fan attitudes don't change how the university needs to handle this situation. If you want to put a wager on how this turns out, let me know.
Again, I don't have anything against the young man involved. And yes, he is basically a victim of circumstance, although you have to hold him accountable for his role in the escalation of this situation. I truly wish him the best, this situation is tragic. But, the university needs to do the right thing for UM IMO.
Jordy Johnson defied all odds. A team consisting of Main Hall, Dean of Pharm, media, DOJ, pro bono lawyers, Missoula County, and a midnight thug comment, and the truth seems to have prevailed. I would welcome him back in a heart beat. He, of all the people involved stood tall and took it on the chin like a man just like he does on a football field. If he can take the scrutiny I sure the heck can. I would be the first to stand and applaud this young man win, lose or draw and ignore the snide comments. Personally I will pray he makes the right decision for himself and his family. God's Speed.
Go Griz!!
Go Griz!!
racehorsewilly
Well-known member
Dear Herd,
Sometimes I do not correctly interpret the written word, as it was intended by the writer, so I will ask for clarification on your following words...
"And . . . I would expects fans to react as you are reacting (wanting the player back on your team), setting themselves up for a hugely disappointing outcome, and lashing out at the university administration when the player is not allowed to return. Fan attitudes don't change how the university needs to handle this situation. If you want to put a wager on how this turns out, let me know."
Now , if I understand this correctly, and if I'm included, I have an extra $1000.00 that I would like to enter the "game " with. If I'm eligible, please explain more clearly the rules. Respectfully submitted....
Sometimes I do not correctly interpret the written word, as it was intended by the writer, so I will ask for clarification on your following words...
"And . . . I would expects fans to react as you are reacting (wanting the player back on your team), setting themselves up for a hugely disappointing outcome, and lashing out at the university administration when the player is not allowed to return. Fan attitudes don't change how the university needs to handle this situation. If you want to put a wager on how this turns out, let me know."
Now , if I understand this correctly, and if I'm included, I have an extra $1000.00 that I would like to enter the "game " with. If I'm eligible, please explain more clearly the rules. Respectfully submitted....
mtgrizrule
Well-known member
To me this is a no brainer. If he wants to play, which he does, he is back. Once a GRIZ, always a GRIZ.
JJ, his family, the accuser, and her family have been through hell and back. Enough of the hell, time to let them heal. I feel all of them have been victimized by a very messed up system. Someone within Missoula's legal community should have had the brass balls to put this to rest well before the trial. This should have never gone to trial.
I want to know if anyone had the heart and professionalism to honestly tell this girl, there was not enough there to get a conviction? With money wasted on the case, did anyone even consider having impartial outside parties review this case, and give their opinions? I feel that would have been much wiser.
Honestly too God, with what we seen presented by the prosecution, who honestly thinks this case should have gone to trial? I am sorry, and not trying to turn this into a heated argument, but I really question if any ethics and morals were used in this case from the beginning? I also question the professionalism within the Missoula County legal process, and the President of U of M. He had a wide open door after the trial to start the healing, but his ego got in the way, and made himself look worse
The system raked two young adults, and their families, through hell. These people will never get back this time. Someone gave Jane Doe very bad advise, or she refused to listen. Who was trying to gain what professionally? Not only did the prosecution get their ass handed to them, but it looks like this case likely will have sunk FVV, and the judge, when all is said and done. I have never seen or heard of a judge come off more unprofessional and more biased. This judge had an apparent agenda, and it was made known by her actions this whole time. As for FVV, I can actually rationalize in the pressure and scrutiny he was under to bring this to trial.
Professionally, I don't know how this case will impact the prosecuting lawyers, but what they presented sure in the hell was a joke to tax payer money. Then again, maybe they too were also working with a short deck from the get go.
Let JJ play football!!!!
JJ, his family, the accuser, and her family have been through hell and back. Enough of the hell, time to let them heal. I feel all of them have been victimized by a very messed up system. Someone within Missoula's legal community should have had the brass balls to put this to rest well before the trial. This should have never gone to trial.
I want to know if anyone had the heart and professionalism to honestly tell this girl, there was not enough there to get a conviction? With money wasted on the case, did anyone even consider having impartial outside parties review this case, and give their opinions? I feel that would have been much wiser.
Honestly too God, with what we seen presented by the prosecution, who honestly thinks this case should have gone to trial? I am sorry, and not trying to turn this into a heated argument, but I really question if any ethics and morals were used in this case from the beginning? I also question the professionalism within the Missoula County legal process, and the President of U of M. He had a wide open door after the trial to start the healing, but his ego got in the way, and made himself look worse
The system raked two young adults, and their families, through hell. These people will never get back this time. Someone gave Jane Doe very bad advise, or she refused to listen. Who was trying to gain what professionally? Not only did the prosecution get their ass handed to them, but it looks like this case likely will have sunk FVV, and the judge, when all is said and done. I have never seen or heard of a judge come off more unprofessional and more biased. This judge had an apparent agenda, and it was made known by her actions this whole time. As for FVV, I can actually rationalize in the pressure and scrutiny he was under to bring this to trial.
Professionally, I don't know how this case will impact the prosecuting lawyers, but what they presented sure in the hell was a joke to tax payer money. Then again, maybe they too were also working with a short deck from the get go.
Let JJ play football!!!!
polsongrizz
Well-known member
Thanks for posting that... :thumb:mtgrizrule said:
I would 100% welcome him back & hope he does come back.
It should have gone to trial, there would have been NO resolution EVER if it had not. Bad decisions got him there but that does not mean he can not or will not make better ones in the future. It may not be BYU but I'm reasonably certain the issue has been addressed with the the teams. They have too much to lose.
But we all have to understand one other thing. This has only resolved things for Jordy (and yes he should be welcomed back) The shitstorm started long before his incident.
But we all have to understand one other thing. This has only resolved things for Jordy (and yes he should be welcomed back) The shitstorm started long before his incident.
grizpsych
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I picked yes. (Is this a feeling?) Regarding my feelings about JJ, My feeling about Jordon Johnson are similar to how I feel about Michael Jackson. Jordon Johnson is one hell of a good quarterback and I enjoy watching him on the field. Michael Jackson was one hell of a musician an entertainer and I love watching his concerts and listening to his music.
Darryl Dunphy
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..First. I am glad justice prevailed. I hope a young man and his family can one day soon return to some kind of nomal life.
Second. We can all speculate on what JJ will do, I think it would be wise to wait then support whatever decision he makes. Could anyone blame him if he decided to move on? I can't imagine many of the posters here being public figures. So as much as each of us want to think we know what we would do . I think it would be impossible to realy say. Have you had your name dragged through the mud before? I understand he was aquitted. Not guilty. But This kid owes this school, this town nothing. Coming back to run out of the tunnel proves what?
I understand that Griz fans would love to see him back. 90 percent will wish him well whatever he does. I just don't see any reason why Johnson would want to spend another minute in Missoula if given the opportunity to start over somewhere else.
Second. We can all speculate on what JJ will do, I think it would be wise to wait then support whatever decision he makes. Could anyone blame him if he decided to move on? I can't imagine many of the posters here being public figures. So as much as each of us want to think we know what we would do . I think it would be impossible to realy say. Have you had your name dragged through the mud before? I understand he was aquitted. Not guilty. But This kid owes this school, this town nothing. Coming back to run out of the tunnel proves what?
I understand that Griz fans would love to see him back. 90 percent will wish him well whatever he does. I just don't see any reason why Johnson would want to spend another minute in Missoula if given the opportunity to start over somewhere else.
Herd you might be the biggest douche canoe ever.
He was found not guilty. JJ getting back on the football field is one of the most important things that can happen in the healing process of the football team, the university and the community. I am hopeful he stays and even more hopeful that the wounds will heal.
He was found not guilty. JJ getting back on the football field is one of the most important things that can happen in the healing process of the football team, the university and the community. I am hopeful he stays and even more hopeful that the wounds will heal.
Blue Tears
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Herd,
While I respect your ability to voice an opinion, your logic is way off. Johnson was found NOT GUILTY of the crime. That means that the jury felt as though he DID NOT commit the crime. As opposed to being found not guilty, how about those 10 NDSU players that were found GUILTY of election signature fraud? Did this shine their school in a positive light? I remember their coach saying the charge wasn't serious enough to warrant suspension. I guess getting paid for a job you cheat to complete isn't serious. Now, before you say rape and signature fraud are two different things, remember, Johnson was found NOT GUILTY and the NDSU players were found GUILTY. I hope for your sake you are never accused of something you didn't do, because by your logic, even if you are innocent, you should be treated as if you are guilty. Go Griz.
While I respect your ability to voice an opinion, your logic is way off. Johnson was found NOT GUILTY of the crime. That means that the jury felt as though he DID NOT commit the crime. As opposed to being found not guilty, how about those 10 NDSU players that were found GUILTY of election signature fraud? Did this shine their school in a positive light? I remember their coach saying the charge wasn't serious enough to warrant suspension. I guess getting paid for a job you cheat to complete isn't serious. Now, before you say rape and signature fraud are two different things, remember, Johnson was found NOT GUILTY and the NDSU players were found GUILTY. I hope for your sake you are never accused of something you didn't do, because by your logic, even if you are innocent, you should be treated as if you are guilty. Go Griz.
