Well??

[PlayerRep]

If Montana does not get to 8 wins and Stitt is let go, I see another 3-4 yr cycle of being average and continued Bitching by Griz fans with unrealistic expectations.
I'm tired of hearing Griz fans talk about how they EXPECT to be the top team in the Big Sky.
It is not your birthright nor does it reflect badly on you if the griz do not make the playoffs every year.
The run of success Montana had, has created many entitled fans that make reading e-griz embarrassing.

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There is no reason why Montana cant win the Big Sky every year. We have the best facilities in our conference. We should be able to recruit the best kids to play ball here. This is not rocket science! Obviously you guys are getting use to mediocrity.

I second that. Consistently winning or at least finishing in Top of the Big Sky is not an "unrealistic expectation". It only has become that in recent years. The Griz had a reputation for always being very tough and the team to beat every year. A lot of people miss that. And while we will ALWAYS root for and appreciate those boys busting their ass on the field, there's nothing wrong with expecting a top-notch football team here in Missoula. Coaches should know that coming in here. (if they have any clue how serious this community takes our football team) If they aren't producing results they will be heavily criticized, and rightfully so. The Griz are a big part of what makes Missoula such an amazing place to live. Alot of people in this town hold the Griz very close to their heart and just want to see them succeed. I'm not saying he still can't turn it around, I have faith. I'm not calling for his head or for him to be fired, but some of his criticism is definitely warranted. Go Griz!

Okay. How would you feel about teams that finished no. 8 or 12 in the final polls, beat the Cats and made the playoffs? What are we today, about 37th in the polls?

I am still positive for the season and Stitt, but please lay off the positive steps that you see that offset the result in recent times. Would be curious to see what you see.

 

[stubz406]

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There is no reason why Montana cant win the Big Sky every year. We have the best facilities in our conference. We should be able to recruit the best kids to play ball here. This is not rocket science! Obviously you guys are getting use to mediocrity.

I second that. Consistently winning or at least finishing in Top of the Big Sky is not an "unrealistic expectation". It only has become that in recent years. The Griz had a reputation for always being very tough and the team to beat every year. A lot of people miss that. And while we will ALWAYS root for and appreciate those boys busting their ass on the field, there's nothing wrong with expecting a top-notch football team here in Missoula. Coaches should know that coming in here. (if they have any clue how serious this community takes our football team) If they aren't producing results they will be heavily criticized, and rightfully so. The Griz are a big part of what makes Missoula such an amazing place to live. Alot of people in this town hold the Griz very close to their heart and just want to see them succeed. I'm not saying he still can't turn it around, I have faith. I'm not calling for his head or for him to be fired, but some of his criticism is definitely warranted. Go Griz!

Okay. How would you feel about teams that finished no. 8 or 12 in the final polls, beat the Cats and made the playoffs? What are we today, about 37th in the polls?

I am still positive for the season and Stitt, but please lay off the positive steps that you see that offset the result in recent times. Would be curious to see what you see.

If we beat the cats and make playoffs I'm a happy boy. everything after that is a bonus! I'm positive for the season too, have to be. Just saying there's nothing wrong with people with high expectations for the Griz - and justified disappointment if people feel we aren't headed in the right direction. Isn't it all part of being a fan? Go Griz!

 

[The_Real_Chief]

There is no reason why Montana cant win the Big Sky every year. We have the best facilities in our conference. We should be able to recruit the best kids to play ball here. This is not rocket science! Obviously you guys are getting use to mediocrity.

I second that. Consistently winning or at least finishing in Top of the Big Sky is not an "unrealistic expectation". It only has become that in recent years. The Griz had a reputation for always being very tough and the team to beat every year. A lot of people miss that. And while we will ALWAYS root for and appreciate those boys busting their ass on the field, there's nothing wrong with expecting a top-notch football team here in Missoula. Coaches should know that coming in here. (if they have any clue how serious this community takes our football team) If they aren't producing results they will be heavily criticized, and rightfully so. The Griz are a big part of what makes Missoula such an amazing place to live. Alot of people in this town hold the Griz very close to their heart and just want to see them succeed. I'm not saying he still can't turn it around, I have faith. I'm not calling for his head or for him to be fired, but some of his criticism is definitely warranted. Go Griz!

Okay. How would you feel about teams that finished no. 8 or 12 in the final polls, beat the Cats and made the playoffs? What are we today, about 37th in the polls?

I am still positive for the season and Stitt, but please lay off the positive steps that you see that offset the result in recent times. Would be curious to see what you see.

If we beat the cats and make playoffs I'm a happy boy. everything after that is a bonus!

When Bobby was here that wasn't good enough, thats where we are as a program now. When Bobby was in Missoula people used to come on Egriz and rip on him for not winning the national championship every year

 

[Ringneck]

Hey, "fan"zoo...do you know what year Peterson "turned it around"? Because he went 15-12 his first two years at UW. And they (like the Griz) weren't HORRIBLE, going 35-29 in the 5 years under Sarkasian. So yeah. And then there's us.

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[mondayamqb]

It is not unrealistic to expect the Griz to win the BSC every year. To be in playoffs every year. To be ranked in the top 5 every pre-season poll, and to play for the Natty every few years. We have the school, facilities, and fan support. What BSC team has better? It may be this year; or it may not. It may be with Coach Stitt; or it may not; but if these aren't your goals, frisbee might be your sport.

 

[PlayerRep]

To me, there's a difference between goals and what fans "expect". Personally, I believe it's unrealistic to expect to win the conference (as presently constituted) every year, and be pre-season top 5 every year. Except for Hauck's 7 year run, when did the Griz win the conference every year? Don't know when or how long the Griz have been been ranked pre-season top 5, but assume that didn't even happen during Hauck's years.

 

[Grizzly96]

To me, there's a difference between goals and what fans "expect". Personally, I believe it's unrealistic to expect to win the conference (as presently constituted) every year, and be pre-season top 5 every year. Except for Hauck's 7 year run, when did the Griz win the conference every year? Don't know when or how long the Griz have been been ranked pre-season top 5, but assume that didn't even happen during Hauck's years.

Agree PR....I'm all for "goals" and desire, but the unrealistic "expect" BS is what gets old. Comes across as whining and pouting. I'm pretty sure that winning the Conference is the same "goal" with the players and coaches.....

 

['68griz]

I think virtually all teams, players and fans HOPE to win their conference, etc., but EXPECTING to do so is a whole other story. As '96 said above, it's whiney; it's also arrogant and completely unrealistic. I would love for every Griz team to win their particular Big Sky championship, but I know that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Just about everyone yearns for the "good old days". Nostalgia enables us to conveniently forget all the not-so-good stuff. What people really want is a team that competes year-in, year-out with good student athletes -- just exactly what every other program also wants. Griz fans feel a bit of a sense of entitlement due to their rabid and enduring support. They are surely the best fanbase in all of FCS and have been for over 20 years. Not too surprising that they want to see the team regularly exceed the accomplishments of other teams, especially since the team has shown in the (nostalgic) past that it can perform at a very high level for a very long time. In the decade starting in 2000, the Griz won more games than any other Division I football team (FBS and FCS). It is expecting a lot to achieve anything like that again but it isn't too much to expect them to have a shot at the playoffs every year and beat the Cats every year (heck they did that for almost 20 years). In all, I believe the Griz are very lucky to have committed fans with extremely high expectations. I think any other program would like to have fans like them too.

 

[PlayerRep]

The streak of conference championships that Hauck had, and other great success during that time, couple with successes of prior coaches, was truly an amazing run. Almost unprecedented. Yes, there were a few disappointing losses mixed in there too, but really an extraordinary run. The ability and will of the teams to come back and win, and win on the road much of the time, was truly remarkable.

I do hope Stitt can figure out how to get the Griz back to the top of the conference and consistently around the top or on top of the heap of FCS. While that is doable, it is a tall order. The conference is so much stronger now, with more good teams than ever. The Performance Center will help. Full schoolies will help. But it will take much more than that to climb back to the top.

If UM had really wanted to maximize the chances of getting this done, it would have hired Hauck et al. He had done it before. He was a better and more mature coach, and had more of a recruiting range, than when he left. He was as competitive as ever. He had significant backing from many of the largest financial supporters. Haslam and Engstrom presumably let other factors and prejudices get in the way of doing what would have had the highest probability of getting the Griz back to the top in the fastest time.

I'm still hopeful Stitt can get the team back towards the top at least, but, after the last half of last season, who knows. I wish he had embraced Griz traditions and supporters more and faster. It would have been better for him and better for the program.

I am hoping the team starts to roll in the next couple games. I like the leadership being shown by Phillips. Truly outstanding. While I don't really know, my impression is that Stitt and the coaches have taken positive and helpful steps to fix and improve issues from Stitt's initial years. Some of this may have been seen on the field last Saturday, after the game, and into this week--with the positives being exposed by the team and the coaches.

 

[PlayerRep]

Just about everyone yearns for the "good old days". Nostalgia enables us to conveniently forget all the not-so-good stuff. What people really want is a team that competes year-in, year-out with good student athletes -- just exactly what every other program also wants. Griz fans feel a bit of a sense of entitlement due to their rabid and enduring support. They are surely the best fanbase in all of FCS and have been for over 20 years. Not too surprising that they want to see the team regularly exceed the accomplishments of other teams, especially since the team has shown in the (nostalgic) past that it can perform at a very high level for a very long time. In the decade starting in 2000, the Griz won more games than any other Division I football team (FBS and FCS). It is expecting a lot to achieve anything like that again but it isn't too much to expect them to have a shot at the playoffs every year and beat the Cats every year (heck they did that for almost 20 years). In all, I believe the Griz are very lucky to have committed fans with extremely high expectations. I think any other program would like to have fans like them too.

Good post. I agree. While not necessarily on the internet, my guess is that most Griz fans feel this way.

 

[fanofzoo]

Just about everyone yearns for the "good old days". Nostalgia enables us to conveniently forget all the not-so-good stuff. What people really want is a team that competes year-in, year-out with good student athletes -- just exactly what every other program also wants. Griz fans feel a bit of a sense of entitlement due to their rabid and enduring support. They are surely the best fanbase in all of FCS and have been for over 20 years. Not too surprising that they want to see the team regularly exceed the accomplishments of other teams, especially since the team has shown in the (nostalgic) past that it can perform at a very high level for a very long time. In the decade starting in 2000, the Griz won more games than any other Division I football team (FBS and FCS). It is expecting a lot to achieve anything like that again but it isn't too much to expect them to have a shot at the playoffs every year and beat the Cats every year (heck they did that for almost 20 years). In all, I believe the Griz are very lucky to have committed fans with extremely high expectations. I think any other program would like to have fans like them too.

Good post. I agree. While not necessarily on the internet, my guess is that most Griz fans feel this way.

I'm in. :thumb:

 

[mondayamqb]

Breaking my rule about never posting a reply, But. We have a State Flagship school..Montana. No East, Central, or State attached. We have arguably one of the the finest stadiums...plus the academic addition and now the performance center. Our fan support in attendance and giving (GSA) is top tier. Our true budget (disregarding the crap the administration throws into our expenses) is certainly competitive. Not only in the BSC but in the country. So if we can check all the boxes and have all of the resources to land in the top five in the country today--forget about the past. Why should we not expect to be a top 5 school today and in the future? This isn't a for or against Stitt. I think it's to early to make that determination. This is strictly about expectations.

 

[stubz406]

Breaking my rule about never posting a reply, But. We have a State Flagship school..Montana. No East, Central, or State attached. We have arguably one of the the finest stadiums...plus the academic addition and now the performance center. Our fan support in attendance and giving (GSA) is top tier. Our true budget (disregarding the crap the administration throws into our expenses) is certainly competitive. Not only in the BSC but in the country. So if we can check all the boxes and have all of the resources to land in the top five in the country today--forget about the past. Why should we not expect to be a top 5 school today and in the future?

+1

 

[UofMGrizFan]

As I see it Griz will beat Sav. St but not by nearly enough for the "realists" on this board.
They will beat EWU and the "Realists" will say EWU is down and "have a new coach", which is an excuse if Montana beats a team however all our new coaches are expected to go undefeated year one.
Montana will pull off a close win against PSU ,again we will be told Barney Ball is a joke and that Montana has still not beat anyone. Hell Montana could win nine games this year and go to Semi finals and the Stitt haters will still complain.

If Montana does not get to 8 wins and Stitt is let go, I see another 3-4 yr cycle of being average and continued Bitching by Griz fans with unrealistic expectations.
I'm tired of hearing Griz fans talk about how they EXPECT to be the top team in the Big Sky.
It is not your birthright nor does it reflect badly on you if the griz do not make the playoffs every year.
The run of success Montana had, has created many entitled fans that make reading e-griz embarrassing.



The O-line has improved
The secondary was much better in game two compared to game one.
Phillips is a major upgrade at QB
Special teams kicking improved
So please stop saying nothing has improved!

Are there issues hell yeah! Has the d-line been up to par? can run blocking be better? too many dropped passes? Kick/punt coverage needs improved??? yes yes yes and yes
This season is young and many posters are acting like Montana is out of playoff contention already.
relax enjoy the games root for the team and appreciate the young 18-22 year old men busting their ass for your entertainment.

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[CFallsGriz]

Stitt's offensive scheme is too predictable, Semore's defensive personnel lack proper coaching in technique, positioning, and reading offensive sets, and whoever coaches special teams' coverage needs serious help.

Our offensive set is one dimensional and easy to dissect. Valparaiso gave Semore's defense multiple looks while the Griz formation was mainly the same -- QB in shotgun with one back off either side of him. Even the WSU Cougars will run a two-back set with an H-back look at times.

NDSU poses multiple offensive sets, and defensively the Bison are very disciplined, strategically positioned, and well versed in tackling and coverage technique.

By the way, LSU only beat Chattanooga by 29 points, Cal by 13 over Weber, WSU Cougars by 31 over the Cats, OSU by 3 over PSU, BYU over PSU by 13, and the Griz? No offensive points, embarrassed in all three phases of the game, and lose by 56.

Previously better coached Griz teams competed much better against Oregon, Iowa, WSU, and Tennessee and were not embarrassed like the Griz were in Seattle yesterday.

Love how you cherry pick the close ones. Lol


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How is he cherry-picking when 4 out of 5 examples are from our conference, and include lil bro? Not agreeing or otherwise with anything else, that just doesn't seem like cherry-picking to me.

And none of those FBS teams are in the same stratosphere as UW right now.

Fair point.