We dont have the Players yet...and Rosenbach???

[twentythreeOh4]

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

 

[Fahque]

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

To bad you are not a quitter because you should really quit eGriz right now

Did you mean too? I mean, it’s just he English language...

Thanks teach :roll:

 

[ordigger]

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

 

[PAGriz]

The problem isn’t talent. Last years team was 7-4 with a much tougher schedule than this year and did it with a Very talented Freshman QB who didn’t get 1st team snaps until just before the EWU game. Had he had more experience and not gone through some freshman growing pains I a few games that team was likely 9-2, no worse than 8-3

What? Last year’s schedule included 4 of the 5 worst teams in the Big Sky and a bad non-conf schedule that included a team that was so bad they couldn’t make it in FCS and announced they were dropping to Div II. Last year’s schedule was terrible. This year’s schedule had two quality Missouri Valley teams and no D-II cupcakes. Unfortunately the conference schedule is what it is, can’t do anything about that, but I would take this years schedule over last year every year.

Yes this team is lacking talent at O-line.

Really, give me the dates for this seasons games against Washington, Eastern Washington, Weber and NAU.

Oh yeah, I assume Portland state is one of those shit games. How did the game against them last year compare to the game against them this year.

Also UNI and western Illinois aren’t exactly the cream of the crop in their conference.


Lastly it’s quite simple. This team isn’t bad because of talent. The score was 21-3 at the half. Was Montana spotted 21 before the kickoff??
Coaching is the difference. Either Haick and company don’t now how to make adjustments or they are to arrogant to do so.
OUT COACHED again

 

[bhumble]

We have to go with Sneed, the coaches went all in with him and Jensen called their bluff.

You mean Jensen quit when shown some tough love?

Also, I think EWU's new starting QB is better than Sneed.

who isn't?

 

[indian-outlaw]

We have to go with Sneed, the coaches went all in with him and Jensen called their bluff.

You mean Jensen quit when shown some tough love?

Also, I think EWU's new starting QB is better than Sneed.

who isn't?

D1 QB's don't grow on trees and Sneed is a fine one
But he is not GJ. And any Coach knows you will most likely need more than one to get through the long season. Running a high quality QB off during spring ball was a huge mistake. Hard to believe a seasoned D1 coach would make such a stupid mistake.

 

[twentythreeOh4]

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t 2 or 3 guys that would be starting if Stitt was still here. We didn’t lose 8 lineman when Hauck took over. Torres left the program. Jackson retired due to concussions. Hart and Scott are out injured. Stitt would be dealing with the same o-line problems if he was still here.

And safety was even worse!

 

[PAGriz]

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t 2 or 3 guys that would be starting if Stitt was still here. We didn’t lose 8 lineman when Hauck took over. Torres left the program. Jackson retired due to concussions. Hart and Scott are out injured. Stitt would be dealing with the same o-line problems if he was still here.

And safety was even worse!

I don’t think he was referring to specifically Oline. Jensen and Favoroso would still be here and starting.

Just because what is put out there for the reasons a player leaves or retires isn’t necessarily the truth. There are a lot of guys on this team that are not fans of the staff after some of the crap that went on

 

[ordigger]

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t 2 or 3 guys that would be starting if Stitt was still here. We didn’t lose 8 lineman when Hauck took over. Torres left the program. Jackson retired due to concussions. Hart and Scott are out injured. Stitt would be dealing with the same o-line problems if he was still here.

And safety was even worse!

What proof do you have that the same injuries would happen? Hart, Torres and Jackson would’ve started. Stoner would probably not have left, and starting also. That’s a pretty damn good o-line.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t 2 or 3 guys that would be starting if Stitt was still here. We didn’t lose 8 lineman when Hauck took over. Torres left the program. Jackson retired due to concussions. Hart and Scott are out injured. Stitt would be dealing with the same o-line problems if he was still here.

And safety was even worse!

What proof do you have that the same injuries would happen? Hart, Torres and Jackson would’ve started. Stoner would probably not have left, and starting also. That’s a pretty damn good o-line.

Holy fukc Digger, at least you are consistent.

 

[PlayerRep]

I was told that the blocking scheme and calls didn't change much, so what you heard Digger was probably wrong.

 

[PlayerRep]

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

Who would be starting but for the attrition? Or, are you talking if Stitt were here? Would Stitt have recruited 3 good safeties? Would he have moved Calhoun to corner?

Personally, I blame Haslam for hiring Stitt, who took a Delaney team ranked nos. 12 and 8 in the nation in the two proper years, to being ranked in the 30's, getting beaten by the Cats twice and not making the playoffs twice.

 

[PlayerRep]

We have to go with Sneed, the coaches went all in with him and Jensen called their bluff.

You mean Jensen quit when shown some tough love?

Also, I think EWU's new starting QB is better than Sneed.

who isn't?

D1 QB's don't grow on trees and Sneed is a fine one
But he is not GJ. And any Coach knows you will most likely need more than one to get through the long season. Running a high quality QB off during spring ball was a huge mistake. Hard to believe a seasoned D1 coach would make such a stupid mistake.

Jensen stats today:

Gresch Jensen 2-25 rushing; Gresch Jensen 22-11-1-196;

 

[PlayerRep]

I don’t agree with everything PA says, but he makes some valid points. This is not a player personnel issue. This is a coaching issue. Hauck has been out-coached in every single game this year. Maybe the game has passed him by. Maybe he thought he could rest on his laurels (and if you believe many on this board, they’re allowing him to do just that). I don’t know what it is. But if this were any other coach not named “Hauck”, 97 percent of this board would want him run out on the rails.

This team has 8-3 talent (or would with last year’s QB).

Hauck hasn't been out-coached in every game. You really don't have a clue about football. I've asked you several times to explain comments like this, and you never bother to respond. I assume you know you can't support your comments.

This team is better under Hauck than it would have been under Stitt, in my view. I don't know where you think Stitt would have magically gotten a good and experienced o-line this year.

And, I think Sneed is a better qb than Jensen.

 

[Sam A. Blitz]

Hypotheticals are kind of like having an argument with the moon because it won't talk back to you...

Hauck and Sneed are here. Stitt and Jensen are gone. It's as dumb to speculate what might have happened if the later were still here as it is to blame them for what is going wrong this season.

The program will be fine. Attrition with a new HC is going to happen and it will exacerbate holes/weaknesses that were already there. What is happening this year should not surprise anyone too much. If it happens next year, then you can pull your pitchforks out.

Also keep in mind that recruits do read this board. Putting down the direction of the program and putting down the players and coaching staff don't necessarily help in those matters.

 

[George Ferguson]

I hope the Cats get Jensen. Sneed looks great at times and horrible at other. I am surprised at this type of play from a Bobby coached team. They just folded in the second half. That never happened in Bobby 1.

Of course you want him. (I still want him as a Griz too). Just make sure you go back and look at the three threads on Bobcat Nation where pretty much every poster on there said he absolutely SUCKED last year. "He only played good against really bad teams", "He panics in the pocket" and "Overrated and absolutely should not win freshman of the year over Troy" are three quotes I pulled from the College Football Forum on BN last last year. Now, MSU fans are drooling over him, and using him and his decision to leave as another way to rip Hauck, smh.

 

[PlayerRep]

I hope the Cats get Jensen. Sneed looks great at times and horrible at other. I am surprised at this type of play from a Bobby coached team. They just folded in the second half. That never happened in Bobby 1.

Of course you want him. (I still want him as a Griz too). Just make sure you go back and look at the three threads on Bobcat Nation where pretty much every poster on there said he absolutely SUCKED last year. "He only played good against really bad teams", "He panics in the pocket" and "Overrated and absolutely should not win freshman of the year over Troy" are three quotes I pulled from the College Football Forum on BN last last year. Now, MSU fans are drooling over him, and using him and his decision to leave as another way to rip Hauck, smh.

And he was 11-22 today. Jensen has had 1 high stat game this season, and a couple other decent games. Sorry, I don't get the fascination.

The Griz didn't just fold in the 2d half. It was mostly the 4th quarter, altho it had been starting as the 3d quarter went on.

I'm not addressing my post to George F.

 

[rgrizfan]

I hope the Cats get Jensen. Sneed looks great at times and horrible at other. I am surprised at this type of play from a Bobby coached team. They just folded in the second half. That never happened in Bobby 1.

Of course you want him. (I still want him as a Griz too). Just make sure you go back and look at the three threads on Bobcat Nation where pretty much every poster on there said he absolutely SUCKED last year. "He only played good against really bad teams", "He panics in the pocket" and "Overrated and absolutely should not win freshman of the year over Troy" are three quotes I pulled from the College Football Forum on BN last last year. Now, MSU fans are drooling over him, and using him and his decision to leave as another way to rip Hauck, smh.

And he was 11-22 today. Jensen has had 1 high stat game this season, and a couple other decent games. Sorry, I don't get the fascination.

The Griz didn't just fold in the 2d half. It was mostly the 4th quarter, altho it had been starting as the 3d quarter went on.

I'm not addressing my post to George F.

They are 8-0

 

[rgrizfan]

Haha yeah maybe magic fairy dust would have prevented injuries and defections, get real. Of course having only 8 lineman on scholarship this spring vs 15 wr was not the problem! This is the thinnest line i’ve ever seen. Our starting 5 today included a injured walk-on at center (Meyer), freshmen at tackle (Keintz) and guard (Martin), the other guard started fall camp at d-line (Sirmon), and the other tackle was sick all summer and had trouble losing weight (Beaver). There is simply no depth at this position, it was left depleted by Stitt. Oh, and so was safety which was even worse depth wise, if that is even possible.

You’re wrong...there are plenty of other threads that talk about the attrition this year. Think Brint has a detailed list somewhere. We’ve loss about 7-8 guys this year, 2-3 would be starting if not for that attrition, but I understand, it’s easier to blame Stitt

Personally I blame greedy boosters who think they are gods when it comes to Griz football. Lol

You don’t know what you’re talking about. There isn’t 2 or 3 guys that would be starting if Stitt was still here. We didn’t lose 8 lineman when Hauck took over. Torres left the program. Jackson retired due to concussions. Hart and Scott are out injured. Stitt would be dealing with the same o-line problems if he was still here.

And safety was even worse!

What proof do you have that the same injuries would happen? Hart, Torres and Jackson would’ve started. Stoner would probably not have left, and starting also. That’s a pretty damn good o-line.

+1

 

[ilovethecats]

I hope the Cats get Jensen. Sneed looks great at times and horrible at other. I am surprised at this type of play from a Bobby coached team. They just folded in the second half. That never happened in Bobby 1.

Of course you want him. (I still want him as a Griz too). Just make sure you go back and look at the three threads on Bobcat Nation where pretty much every poster on there said he absolutely SUCKED last year. "He only played good against really bad teams", "He panics in the pocket" and "Overrated and absolutely should not win freshman of the year over Troy" are three quotes I pulled from the College Football Forum on BN last last year. Now, MSU fans are drooling over him, and using him and his decision to leave as another way to rip Hauck, smh.

What you say is true. Though, just like egriz I believe bobcatnation represents about 10% of the fan base. And that 10% is vocal. Usually not worth much though except for entertainment....