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JesseHallAlum said:
The crap Jensen went through in spring ball.. if any of you saw what I saw every day on how Rosey and Hauck treated Jensen then maybe you would have a clue. More guys will jump off this titanic in the coming months.



Heard similar things about how Jensen was treated by coaches..... from someone inside the program.
 
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
So, he didn’t try and then he f***[*] quit like a little bitch. Quit making f***[*] excuses he couldn’t rise to the occasion and quit. He’s a f***[*] quitter. The only thing worse than a quitter is a coward, and the argument can be made for that as well.

Sneed is a coward to then. How many cowards we have on our team using your logic. Quinn quit on Oklahoma, and is a coward per your logic. Dare you to say it to his face.

The only cowards I see are you and g-box who snivel nicely.

Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a fucking quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.
 
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
Sneed is a coward to then. How many cowards we have on our team using your logic. Quinn quit on Oklahoma, and is a coward per your logic. Dare you to say it to his face.

The only cowards I see are you and g-box who snivel nicely.

Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

So is Hauck a fucking quitter?
 
ordigger said:
Not a difficult schedule overall this year either. Stitt would not have back slid this year, despite what some want us all to believe. This was the year his guys, in his offense were primed, and I doubt Semore’s defense could be much worse.

So much assumption. I don't buy it for a second that this team would have been a Championship caliber team under Stitt.
 
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
Sneed is a coward to then. How many cowards we have on our team using your logic. Quinn quit on Oklahoma, and is a coward per your logic. Dare you to say it to his face.

The only cowards I see are you and g-box who snivel nicely.

Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

Well you clearly are not the smartest guy in the room. You completely miss the point. The Griz have had some great teams - with quitters, and yes it’s an analogy I’m using - maybe it’s time for you to quit?
 
EverettGriz said:
I don’t agree with everything PA says, but he makes some valid points. This is not a player personnel issue. This is a coaching issue. Hauck has been out-coached in every single game this year. Maybe the game has passed him by. Maybe he thought he could rest on his laurels (and if you believe many on this board, they’re allowing him to do just that). I don’t know what it is. But if this were any other coach not named “Hauck”, 97 percent of this board would want him run out on the rails.

This team has 8-3 talent (or would with last year’s QB).

The offensive line doesn’t have 8-3 talent. I think this team has the worst offensive line I’ve seen in the last 30 years of watching Griz football. And don’t forget the secondary was also in shambles before the season began.
 
EverettGriz said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

So is Hauck a f***[*] quitter?

Did he quit mid contract? If so, yes.
 
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
Sneed is a coward to then. How many cowards we have on our team using your logic. Quinn quit on Oklahoma, and is a coward per your logic. Dare you to say it to his face.

The only cowards I see are you and g-box who snivel nicely.

Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

To bad you are not a quitter because you should really quit eGriz right now
 
grizindabox said:
ordigger said:
Not a difficult schedule overall this year either. Stitt would not have back slid this year, despite what some want us all to believe. This was the year his guys, in his offense were primed, and I doubt Semore’s defense could be much worse.

So much assumption. I don't buy it for a second that this team would have been a Championship caliber team under Stitt.

Did I say Championship? Lol you guys make it to easy on this board, you can’t even troll worth a sh**
 
grizindabox wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:27 pm

I know a bit more about this whole thing than you want to make it seem. People like you made GJ think he earned it, so instead of going out and actually doing so, he did a little to much pouting and moping about things. Did he get a bit of a raw deal, he just may have...and he settled for it and decided to leave. People need to quit dwelling on the whole deal and let it go.

It would be easier to let it go if the Griz weren't 4-4 and out of the playoffs. Raw deal for Jensen, yes I believe so. For those of you who just want to make gut decisions I urge you to go back and watch the spring game and look how Rosy scripted the first drive to highlight Sneed's talents which is to throw the ball for 8 yards and use his legs, much like today's opening drive. After that, today and other games this season, it seems it is beyond Rosy's ability to bring it home. Either Rosy or Sneed can't seem to go a full game. Then go back to today's tape and watch the Davis QB throw from every awkward position possible and still complete passes. This was what Jensen could have brought and he would have only been a sophomore. I know you wish that posters wouldn't dwell on it but in my opinion this was Hauck's biggest mistake this year and one that has cost him dearly. I hesitate to bring it up, and I only mentioned it briefly in April, but after Jensen was run off acquaintances (I wouldn't call them friends) hired some voodoo shamen in New Orleans to put a curse on Hauck for no championships for 10 years. I usually don't put much faith in those things but it looks like it worked in year one. Every losing year means top notch recruits have less and less interest in participating.
 
If Jensen had not left and was riding the bench behind Sneed do you think he would have got meaningful snaps in the last 3 games. Jensen is not an idiot, he knows a passionate man crush when he sees one. He made the correct choice and will have a very successful collegiate career. Our current coaching staff cant judge talent and play who their favorites are based on personality. I think this is a major shortcoming and is going to cost the program for years to come.
 
twentythreeOh4 said:
EverettGriz said:
I don’t agree with everything PA says, but he makes some valid points. This is not a player personnel issue. This is a coaching issue. Hauck has been out-coached in every single game this year. Maybe the game has passed him by. Maybe he thought he could rest on his laurels (and if you believe many on this board, they’re allowing him to do just that). I don’t know what it is. But if this were any other coach not named “Hauck”, 97 percent of this board would want him run out on the rails.

This team has 8-3 talent (or would with last year’s QB).

The offensive line doesn’t have 8-3 talent. I think this team has the worst offensive line I’ve seen in the last 30 years of watching Griz football. And don’t forget the secondary was also in shambles before the season began.

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.
 
ordigger said:
twentythreeOh4 said:
PAGriz said:
The problem isn’t talent. Last years team was 7-4 with a much tougher schedule than this year and did it with a Very talented Freshman QB who didn’t get 1st team snaps until just before the EWU game. Had he had more experience and not gone through some freshman growing pains I a few games that team was likely 9-2, no worse than 8-3

What? Last year’s schedule included 4 of the 5 worst teams in the Big Sky and a bad non-conf schedule that included a team that was so bad they couldn’t make it in FCS and announced they were dropping to Div II. Last year’s schedule was terrible. This year’s schedule had two quality Missouri Valley teams and no D-II cupcakes. Unfortunately the conference schedule is what it is, can’t do anything about that, but I would take this years schedule over last year every year.

Yes this team is lacking talent at O-line.

Not a difficult schedule overall this year either. Stitt would not have back slid this year, despite what some want us all to believe. This was the year his guys, in his offense were primed, and I doubt Semore’s defense could be much worse.
Stitt’s team would have been bad because it would have had offensive line and secondary problems also. I seriously doubt Stitt,s team would’ve beat N. Iowa. And turnovers were a problem every year under Stitt. The Griz had a league worst 26 turnovers last year.
 
EverettGriz said:
twentythreeOh4 said:
EverettGriz said:
I don’t agree with everything PA says, but he makes some valid points. This is not a player personnel issue. This is a coaching issue. Hauck has been out-coached in every single game this year. Maybe the game has passed him by. Maybe he thought he could rest on his laurels (and if you believe many on this board, they’re allowing him to do just that). I don’t know what it is. But if this were any other coach not named “Hauck”, 97 percent of this board would want him run out on the rails.

This team has 8-3 talent (or would with last year’s QB).

The offensive line doesn’t have 8-3 talent. I think this team has the worst offensive line I’ve seen in the last 30 years of watching Griz football. And don’t forget the secondary was also in shambles before the season began.

Hard to argue there. A couple of key defections and injuries have left that group shorthanded.

And hard to predict if there would’ve been any defections, or injuries. I think someone, who clearly knew what they were talking about in the spring (can’t remember who) talked about how the blocking style would change under Hauck, I think they talked about how these guys were recruited to “zone” block, and are now being asked to block differently and not a good fit. One reason I’d like to have stuck with the other guy for a few more years, the same thing that people now want with Hauck, 5-6 years.
 
twentythreeOh4 said:
ordigger said:
twentythreeOh4 said:
PAGriz said:
The problem isn’t talent. Last years team was 7-4 with a much tougher schedule than this year and did it with a Very talented Freshman QB who didn’t get 1st team snaps until just before the EWU game. Had he had more experience and not gone through some freshman growing pains I a few games that team was likely 9-2, no worse than 8-3

What? Last year’s schedule included 4 of the 5 worst teams in the Big Sky and a bad non-conf schedule that included a team that was so bad they couldn’t make it in FCS and announced they were dropping to Div II. Last year’s schedule was terrible. This year’s schedule had two quality Missouri Valley teams and no D-II cupcakes. Unfortunately the conference schedule is what it is, can’t do anything about that, but I would take this years schedule over last year every year.

Yes this team is lacking talent at O-line.

Not a difficult schedule overall this year either. Stitt would not have back slid this year, despite what some want us all to believe. This was the year his guys, in his offense were primed, and I doubt Semore’s defense could be much worse.
Stitt’s team would have been bad because it would have had offensive line and secondary problems also. I seriously doubt Stitt,s team would’ve beat N. Iowa. And turnovers were a problem every year under Stitt. The Griz had a league worst 26 turnovers last year.

I think they had a chance to easily beat Northern Iowa, our offense would’ve not let up in 2nd half IMO, but that’s what makes opinions great. We all have them. I notice you picked to areas where the coaches were both retained by Hauck. And both groups haven’t improved.
 
We were warned ... but hoped for the best. (And this thread title says it all.)

As I've said on many threads, I only played the game at the scrub level. And those who've followed my posts know I'm mostly a "numbers guy" and neither a "sugar coater" nor "doom and gloomer."

That being said ... football is not rocket science: The X's and O's are there in books and observations. I've been observing, and studying, college football for going on sixty years. (And, yes, it's changed over the years ... but not really as much as some people think.) For those same 50-60 years, I've listened to "coach-speak." Hauck warned us -- not is so many words, obviously, that the team had weaknesses that had to be corrected. For equally-obvious reasons, he never doubted the players' effort or commitment (nor should we).

Posters who question the staff's ability have it totally backwards, IMO. And this game is a prime example, believe it or not. With two weeks to get ready, they found a way to maximize what the Griz can do well, and hide/protect their weaknesses. And make no mistake, UC-Davis is a very good team, definitely deserving their high ranking. UCD had no need to "out-coach" UM for the second half ... they only had to figure out what Hauck & company had done to screw them up
and adjust for it. After that, the better talent would take care of the rest.The game turned into a blowout when the Griz got desperate and made mistakes.

The Griz now have no chance, IMO, to make the playoffs, but I do think (having seen their opponents play) they can win out. That should be their goal.
 
Posters who question the staff's ability have it totally backwards, IMO. And this game is a prime example, believe it or not. With two weeks to get ready, they found a way to maximize what the Griz can do well, and hide/protect their weaknesses.

All right. I can buy that. But then are you suggesting the staff is incapable of making in-game adjustments? Because what I saw today, and what I've seen overall this year seems to suggest that. In spades.
 
ordigger said:
grizindabox said:
ordigger said:
Not a difficult schedule overall this year either. Stitt would not have back slid this year, despite what some want us all to believe. This was the year his guys, in his offense were primed, and I doubt Semore’s defense could be much worse.

So much assumption. I don't buy it for a second that this team would have been a Championship caliber team under Stitt.

Did I say Championship? Lol you guys make it to easy on this board, you can’t even troll worth a sh**

So you meant this was the year, with his guys, in his primed offense, don't shit the bed against the Cats? Solid. Such high aspirations for his "primed" offense.
 
Fahque said:
dupuyer griz said:
ordigger said:
dupuyer griz said:
Gresch is gone and he isn’t f***[*] coming back. Who’s on this Griz team we can rely on? I don’t know why people think I’d be afraid to tell any of those people they’re f***[*] quitters. I don’t know why people are so damn high on gresch. He couldn’t make the cut and he left... you can call me out all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that he f***[*] quit on us. I really don’t give a shit what you say, I’m not a quitter so talking shot about me doesn’t mean a lot.

How many quitters we have on our team this year? How many in the past? Craig Ochs - quitter, JD Quinn - quitter, Bobby Hauck - quitter. Just using you stupid assanine reasoning that when people move on to a different situation, they ain’t no quitter. It’s a stupid analogy, and move on from it....every freaking week you post it.

Yeah, it’s not an analogy, it’s a statement of fact. He was a Griz, now he’s not because he’s a f***[*] quitter. You should figure out what an analogy is ya half a tard.

To bad you are not a quitter because you should really quit eGriz right now
Did you mean too? I mean, it’s just he English language...
 
twentythreeOh4 said:
EverettGriz said:
I don’t agree with everything PA says, but he makes some valid points. This is not a player personnel issue. This is a coaching issue. Hauck has been out-coached in every single game this year. Maybe the game has passed him by. Maybe he thought he could rest on his laurels (and if you believe many on this board, they’re allowing him to do just that). I don’t know what it is. But if this were any other coach not named “Hauck”, 97 percent of this board would want him run out on the rails.

This team has 8-3 talent (or would with last year’s QB).

The offensive line doesn’t have 8-3 talent. I think this team has the worst offensive line I’ve seen in the last 30 years of watching Griz football. And don’t forget the secondary was also in shambles before the season began.

This is certainly true. But it was glaringly apparent from the day Hauck was hired. FCS teams notoriously are thin of big bodies that are capable of playing up front. That goes for defense and offenseiive lines. Hauck in his pompous wisdom runs off our best pass rusher and ignores our glaring depth issue up front on the o-line. Not that I'm a fan of that idiot stitt, but Hauck should have known better. For gawd sake, if phlugrad would have stayed we would still be the puff daddy of the bsc. Hauck is not going to get us there.
 
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