Watering down of FCS

[EverettGriz]

KState was only brought into the conversation due to some nebulous discussion regarding attendance vs population (which was meaningless).

If it truly is meaningless, why doesn't Montana have an NFL team? We're the #1 state in the nation in billionaires per capita:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_the_number_of_billionaires" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Surely one of them would recognize Montana's ability to support high caliber football and would have moved one here wouldn't you think? You've convinced me and I'm with you. I bet the talks are already underway.

Do you think our best shot is expansion or relocation? Personally, I think the Buffalo Bills are ripe for relocation. Plenty of wide-open space near St. Ignatius for a new stadium, just think of the views you'd have from the NW end zone! After celebrating a Tom Brady sack you could gaze eastward at the remnants of the Pleistocene Epoch, rising majestically above the pole dancers on the bleacher roof on the east side of Fred's Lounge Stadium.

With a highway system that would bring in fans from Missoula, Frenchtown, Arlee, Kalispell, Hot Springs, Moise, Old Agency, Polson, Pablo, Ronan, Charlo, Plains, Superior, T-Falls, Noxon, Heron, Troy, Libby, Trego, Fortine, and Eureka, and Bam! The Buffalo Bills are now the Montana Buffalos! Instead of just one Buffalo named Ralphie we have the entire National Bison Refuge right down the street. Can you imagine the intimidation factor of Ryan Tannehill trying to warm up in the middle of a herd of buffalo pre-game?

I can even see a tunnel directly east under the Mission Range so fans from Seeley Lake and Lake Alva can cut their drive-time down. And since our goal is to become Boise-like in every way possible regardless of the cost, we wouldn't even need to leave the AFC East, hence the Tom Brady & Ryan Tannehill references above. Got to get to know our rivals early ya know.

Not enough "awes" in awesome for this plan.

That said, ANYone with at least one semester of accounting would rather be K State than any of the top 20 FCS teams. Combined.

That oughta tell you sumpin.....

Round that out with a few semesters in Logic, Geography, and Creative Writing and it indeed does.

Evidently you confused yourself with your own analogy.

 

[Bluenoser]

You've convinced me. I'm fully onboard the MoveUp.org movement.

Now that I see the brilliance, I'm at a loss on why we don't have an NFL team using the same standards that is being used to rightfully state that Montana can support a BCS team.

Personally, I think it all goes back to that one drunken night in Honolulu at the 1992 Pro Bowl, when Larry Frost and Brent Musberger after 14 too many Mai Tai stumbled down Kalakaua Avenue yelling at the top of their lungs "Paul Tagliaaaaaaaaaa BLOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!" into the wee hours of the morning.

Other than that I can't see a valid reason why we're frozen out of having an NFL franchise.

 

[ilovethecats]

You've convinced me. I'm fully onboard the MoveUp.org movement.

Now that I see the brilliance, I'm at a loss on why we don't have an NFL team using the same standards that is being used to rightfully state that Montana can support a BCS team.

Personally, I think it all goes back to that one drunken night in Honolulu at the 1992 Pro Bowl, when Larry Frost and Brent Musberger after 14 too many Mai Tai stumbled down Kalakaua Avenue yelling at the top of their lungs "Paul Tagliaaaaaaaaaa BLOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!" into the wee hours of the morning.

Other than that I can't see a valid reason why we're frozen out of having an NFL franchise.

right or wrong you're a damn funny writer. :thumb:

 

[CV Griz Fan]

You've convinced me. I'm fully onboard the MoveUp.org movement.

Now that I see the brilliance, I'm at a loss on why we don't have an NFL team using the same standards that is being used to rightfully state that Montana can support a BCS team.

Personally, I think it all goes back to that one drunken night in Honolulu at the 1992 Pro Bowl, when Larry Frost and Brent Musberger after 14 too many Mai Tai stumbled down Kalakaua Avenue yelling at the top of their lungs "Paul Tagliaaaaaaaaaa BLOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!" into the wee hours of the morning.

Other than that I can't see a valid reason why we're frozen out of having an NFL franchise.

Your "frozen out" because you don't have enough taser equipment in the whole state to keep a NFL franchise
In check.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

KState was only brought into the conversation due to some nebulous discussion regarding attendance vs population (which was meaningless).

If it truly is meaningless, why doesn't Montana have an NFL team? We're the #1 state in the nation in billionaires per capita:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_the_number_of_billionaires" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Surely one of them would recognize Montana's ability to support high caliber football and would have moved one here wouldn't you think? You've convinced me and I'm with you. I bet the talks are already underway.

Do you think our best shot is expansion or relocation? Personally, I think the Buffalo Bills are ripe for relocation. Plenty of wide-open space near St. Ignatius for a new stadium, just think of the views you'd have from the NW end zone! After celebrating a Tom Brady sack you could gaze eastward at the remnants of the Pleistocene Epoch, rising majestically above the pole dancers on the bleacher roof on the east side of Fred's Lounge Stadium.

With a highway system that would bring in fans from Missoula, Frenchtown, Arlee, Kalispell, Hot Springs, Moise, Old Agency, Polson, Pablo, Ronan, Charlo, Plains, Superior, T-Falls, Noxon, Heron, Troy, Libby, Trego, Fortine, and Eureka, and Bam! The Buffalo Bills are now the Montana Buffalos! Instead of just one Buffalo named Ralphie we have the entire National Bison Refuge right down the street. Can you imagine the intimidation factor of Ryan Tannehill trying to warm up in the middle of a herd of buffalo pre-game?

I can even see a tunnel directly east under the Mission Range so fans from Seeley Lake and Lake Alva can cut their drive-time down. And since our goal is to become Boise-like in every way possible regardless of the cost, we wouldn't even need to leave the AFC East, hence the Tom Brady & Ryan Tannehill references above. Got to get to know our rivals early ya know.

Not enough "awes" in awesome for this plan.

That said, ANYone with at least one semester of accounting would rather be K State than any of the top 20 FCS teams. Combined.

That oughta tell you sumpin.....

Round that out with a few semesters in Logic, Geography, and Creative Writing and it indeed does.

I can't believe that I missed this post earlier.No matter what side of the "move up" debate you're on, you have to admit that Bluenoser has got "mad skills" when it comes to creativity and humor. This post is brilliant.

 

[Copper Griz]

KState was only brought into the conversation due to some nebulous discussion regarding attendance vs population (which was meaningless).

If it truly is meaningless, why doesn't Montana have an NFL team? We're the #1 state in the nation in billionaires per capita:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_the_number_of_billionaires" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Surely one of them would recognize Montana's ability to support high caliber football and would have moved one here wouldn't you think? You've convinced me and I'm with you. I bet the talks are already underway.

Do you think our best shot is expansion or relocation? Personally, I think the Buffalo Bills are ripe for relocation. Plenty of wide-open space near St. Ignatius for a new stadium, just think of the views you'd have from the NW end zone! After celebrating a Tom Brady sack you could gaze eastward at the remnants of the Pleistocene Epoch, rising majestically above the pole dancers on the bleacher roof on the east side of Fred's Lounge Stadium.

With a highway system that would bring in fans from Missoula, Frenchtown, Arlee, Kalispell, Hot Springs, Moise, Old Agency, Polson, Pablo, Ronan, Charlo, Plains, Superior, T-Falls, Noxon, Heron, Troy, Libby, Trego, Fortine, and Eureka, and Bam! The Buffalo Bills are now the Montana Buffalos! Instead of just one Buffalo named Ralphie we have the entire National Bison Refuge right down the street. Can you imagine the intimidation factor of Ryan Tannehill trying to warm up in the middle of a herd of buffalo pre-game?

I can even see a tunnel directly east under the Mission Range so fans from Seeley Lake and Lake Alva can cut their drive-time down. And since our goal is to become Boise-like in every way possible regardless of the cost, we wouldn't even need to leave the AFC East, hence the Tom Brady & Ryan Tannehill references above. Got to get to know our rivals early ya know.

Not enough "awes" in awesome for this plan.

That said, ANYone with at least one semester of accounting would rather be K State than any of the top 20 FCS teams. Combined.

That oughta tell you sumpin.....

Round that out with a few semesters in Logic, Geography, and Creative Writing and it indeed does.

I can't believe that I missed this post earlier.No matter what side of the "move up" debate you're on, you have to admit that Bluenoser has got "mad skills" when it comes to creativity and humor. This post is brilliant.

Completely agree with your post. Unfortunately Bluenoser is dead wrong. Jan Stenerud is singlehandedly responsible for Montana not having an NFL team. Everyone thought Montana kids played soccer due to his feats (or feet). We were stereotyped back then - just like now. Everyone currently thinks we are all thugs.

 

[Bluenoser]

Completely agree with your post. Unfortunately Bluenoser is dead wrong. Jan Stenerud is singlehandedly responsible for Montana not having an NFL team. Everyone thought Montana kids played soccer due to his feats (or feet). We were stereotyped back then - just like now. Everyone currently thinks we are all thugs.

I have been wrong before and profusely apologized both times. Unfortunately, Copper only has a small part of the story. True, Stenerud was the part of the reason that Seattle received the Seahawks ahead of the then ill-conceived "Build it and we think they probably might come" Crow Agency plan of '74. But really that plan was doomed from the start, beginning with the proposed team name: Little Big Horn Medium Custers with a Side of Ambush. Legend has it that the look on Rozelle's face when he was presented with the sample jersey replete with arrows dripping with blood and a helmet with the top half missing inspired Spielberg for numerous scenes in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

And while the game between the Lions and Jets kicking off the 1974 preseason as a test of Montana's ability to support an NFL franchise was a modicum of success attended by an estimated 22,000 at Crow Agency Stadium, it was later discovered that 20,800 were there for the annual Aber Day Kegger. To this day it still stands as the longest, drunkest, road trip in Montana history at over 400 miles each way, for a combined 16.6 million miles traveled round trip and an aggregate BAC of close to 2 million.

Montana's fate as a future NFL franchise was sealed when as is NFL tradition the starters were pulled in the second quarter. Both starting units headed directly to the parking lot where the Aber Day Kegger was raging at full strength jamming to the bluegrass tunes of the Mission Mountain Wood Band. After smoking the peace pipe with the locals the starting units then proceeded to the Sigma Nu keg which they drained in a matter of minutes. The mix of dejection of driving 400 miles only to be shut out of their own keg, along with the pride of being pushed around by national celebrities instead of GDI's from Libby can be seen on the faces of Sigma Nu members even to this day during Rush Week.

Alex Karras as General George "Check out the biceps, man" Custer and Joe Namath as Geronimo (Namath was an Alabama grad, had just done the above mentioned Peace Pipe Sampler with the local townfolk along with numerous kegger stands, plus as Broadway Joe no one was about to correct him on his selection of Indian Chief) decided to reenact the Battle of the Little Big Horn on the unsuspecting rookies and 3rd stringers who were now beginning the 4th quarter.

Alex Karras, now nude except for a ceremonial Crow headdress and no one daring to tell him he was supposed to be playing Custer, charged from the sidelines and tackled his own Mickey Zofko for a 6 yard loss. Taking the ball and biting it in half, Alex offered the ball to the Buffalo Gods as penance for [inaudible]. The ensuing melee caused Rozelle to cancel the remainder of the game along with Montana's chances of an NFL franchise, thus ending Alex Karras's comeback attempt of 1974 at a single preseason game.

All attendees who will admit to being present, claim to have witnessed a shadowy figure atop a Palomino on the bluff overlooking the game/Aber Day Kegger. Most will claim it was Jan Stenerud, with some even claiming to hear him sneer "There just aren't enough ties in this damn game."

Others claim it was Barry Manilow, who to this to this day refuses to confirm or deny that this event was the inspiration for his 1978 hit sensation "Copacabana."

Recently another fringe group has emerged who claim that the shadowy figure was the Future Ghost of Joe Montana. Serious historians have simply dismissed this claim as "bad acid."

Regardless of the facts and or legends of the event, Jan Stenerud has not stepped foot in Montana since and since 1974 has played no part in the impasse of bringing an NFL franchise to the state of Montana.

 

[GoApps70]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Agreed 100%.

 

[Spanky]

+1

 

[get'em_griz]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

Some people get it, and some people don't. You sir, get it. :clap:

 

[kemajic]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

Some people get it, and some people don't. You sir, get it. :clap:

There are so many on here who don't.

 

[tampa_griz]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

Exactly. It just ain't fun to watch your team continually beat the deaf and blind school every year.

 

[Silvertip]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

I would tip my hat to you if I wore one...

 

[Bluenoser]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The opportunity to be a New Mexico State, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Florida International, Kent State, UNLV, Tulane, Wyoming, Akron, San Jose State, Idaho, Ball State, etc. is vastly more appealing than what we've been suffering through as Griz fans the last two decades.

 

[rimrockgriz]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

+1,000,000 like my old days boxing..will I win or get my ass kicked??? It's always about the thrill of the hunt. :thumb: :thumb: :egriz:

 

[AZGrizFan]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The opportunity to be a New Mexico State, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Florida International, Kent State, UNLV, Tulane, Wyoming, Akron, San Jose State, Idaho, Ball State, etc. is vastly more appealing than what we've been suffering through as Griz fans the last two decades.

I'm not sure, but I THINK I sense a bit of sarcasm here....

 

['68griz]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The opportunity to be a New Mexico State, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Florida International, Kent State, UNLV, Tulane, Wyoming, Akron, San Jose State, Idaho, Ball State, etc. is vastly more appealing than what we've been suffering through as Griz fans the last two decades.

I'm not sure, but I THINK I sense a bit of sarcasm here....

I HOPE so ... cuz I'm not at all interested in playing most of the teams listed.

 

[EverettGriz]

If fans will only come to watch a winning team, isn't that a pretty weak reason.
Why play the game if that's all there is? If I wanted to just watch an easy win I would just watch my team practice, because that's all they are doing with an easy win. There is excitement in not knowing who will win. Accomplishment in winning when your team is the underdog. I love getting a football rush from watching a good game, I'm a junkie for it.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

The opportunity to be a New Mexico State, Eastern Michigan, Buffalo, Florida International, Kent State, UNLV, Tulane, Wyoming, Akron, San Jose State, Idaho, Ball State, etc. is vastly more appealing than what we've been suffering through as Griz fans the last two decades.

I'm not sure, but I THINK I sense a bit of sarcasm here....

I HOPE so ... cuz I'm not at all interested in playing most of the teams listed.

But Oklahoma No-Stick Pan State fires you up?


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