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Vigen's Next Stop

ABQCat said:
Wait what? People who understand the game and played at a high level (like me) know this isn't true. Grant Vigen carries an 84 rating from 247Sports. As a point of reference here are some of the commitments of other kids with an 84 rating in the same class:
Syracuse, SHSU, Marshall, Maryland, Utah St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Bowling Green, and a few others.

Do better PR. You continue to muck this place up with garbage posts.
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84!?!?!

No way!

Holy shit!

Not 84!?!?!

Wow!

Like holy fuck!?

Are you sure????

84!?

Eighty Four!?!>?!
 
uofmman1122 said:
I don't know if Vigen will move on after this season, but I highly doubt he'd stay in Bozeman if a really good situation came up. It really ultimately depends on what's available, and what offers he gets. I could easily see him staying, if he doesn't get something he felt he couldn't turn down.
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I think you could see him move to an assistant position at a Power 5 school.
 
mthoopsfan said:
His kids srent good enough to play FBS.
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With all due respect to Grant, who's a great kid, but I don't see him see him getting a ton of playing time over whatever mobile QBs they have on the roster over the next 4-5 years. Unless it becomes a daddy ball situation.

I say that looking at the last decade plus where the Cats QB success has been with Prukop, Murray, Andersen, Tommy, and Chambers... I just have a hard time seeing them with a pure pocket passer type.
 
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uofmman1122 said:
84!?!?!

No way!

Holy shit!

Not 84!?!?!

Wow!

Like holy fuck!?

Are you sure????

84!?

Eighty Four!?!>?!
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So... Here is my thought as someone who called all the home games for Gallatin the last 5 years on the radio. Grant Vigen is the 2nd best pure QB I have seen in that time. 1st being Presley out of Glacier (Junior this year). #3 being Huot that is at UM.

Pro's
Grant can hit every throw there is. He gets rid of the ball quick, and is accurate. He can move in the pocket very well, and is very good at reading defenses on what they are giving him. This is a trait that very few QB's at a Montana High School level have.

Con's
He isn't going to run the ball, so if you can force him out of the pocket towards the short side of the field, he will throw it away rather than run it. He is very tall, but very thin. This will improve when you get the college level lifting and eating.

Overall
I have no idea how he will play in College, nobody does with most recruits. I will say that he could play at the FBS level because of his height and his arm strength and arm talent.
 
ABQCat said:
Wait what? People who understand the game and played at a high level (like me) know this isn't true. Grant Vigen carries an 84 rating from 247Sports. As a point of reference here are some of the commitments of other kids with an 84 rating in the same class:
Syracuse, SHSU, Marshall, Maryland, Utah St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Bowling Green, and a few others.

Do better PR. You continue to muck this place up with garbage posts.
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I'm gonna stop you right there. While PR says some crazy shit sometimes, he is right on this one. As someone who follows FBS recruiting very closely, not all "84" rated prospects are the same. A QB who is an 84 that plays in the Trinity League in California is a much different prospect than someone who plays QB at Bozeman High. Kids get these rating by people who attend their games and observe their play at camps, and I'm here to tell you that not many recruiting scouts are coming to games in Montana. They see 6-6 220, watch his highlight tape and assess a rating. Look, maybe he turns out to be a good player, maybe even a great one, but the fact he has zero FBS interest is very telling. You can tell a lot about a prospect based on who is offering them a scholarship, and his is not impressive from the standpoint of being an FBS caliber player.

Prep athletes are very hard to evaluate in Montana unless they are getting out and going to camps (which I'm sure he's done some of) where they are competing against more consistent and higher rated competition, because the what they see in the state of Montana overall is not great. Doesn't mean there are not outliers, they are just hard to find and evaluate.
 
SACCAT66 said:
So... Here is my thought as someone who called all the home games for Gallatin the last 5 years on the radio. Grant Vigen is the 2nd best pure QB I have seen in that time. 1st being Presley out of Glacier (Junior this year). #3 being Huot that is at UM.

Pro's
Grant can hit every throw there is. He gets rid of the ball quick, and is accurate. He can move in the pocket very well, and is very good at reading defenses on what they are giving him. This is a trait that very few QB's at a Montana High School level have.

Con's
He isn't going to run the ball, so if you can force him out of the pocket towards the short side of the field, he will throw it away rather than run it. He is very tall, but very thin. This will improve when you get the college level lifting and eating.

Overall
I have no idea how he will play in College, nobody does with most recruits. I will say that he could play at the FBS level because of his height and his arm strength and arm talent.
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Excuse me sir, we're talking about arbitrary units of measurement for simple minds like mine to process. None of this nuance shit.

Now, if you'd be so kind, how many Boom's does Grant get on the Boom Meter?
 
ilovethecats said:
I suppose this is true. But still ridiculous that the median price of a home here has now climbed to $800,000. :sick:
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800k? Oh, you sweet summer child.
But I will agree that 800k is ridiculous to live in Bozeman, MT. Not a Cat/Griz thing, but shitty climates in general shouldn't cost that much. Just my personal opinion. I understand that some people may like an 7-8-month winter.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Excuse me sir, we're talking about arbitrary units of measurement for simple minds like mine to process. None of this nuance shit.

Now, if you'd be so kind, how many Boom's does Grant get on the Boom Meter?
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That's a really good question. Are booms a 1-5 scale, or more of a over/under of 50...
 
ABQCat said:
Wait what? People who understand the game and played at a high level (like me) know this isn't true. Grant Vigen carries an 84 rating from 247Sports. As a point of reference here are some of the commitments of other kids with an 84 rating in the same class:
Syracuse, SHSU, Marshall, Maryland, Utah St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Bowling Green, and a few others.

Do better PR. You continue to muck this place up with garbage posts.
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As I said, they aren’t good enough. I had previously asked my friends and family in Bozeman.
 
Silenoz said:
With all due respect to Grant, who's a great kid, but I don't see him see him getting a ton of playing time over whatever mobile QBs they have on the roster over the next 4-5 years. Unless it becomes a daddy ball situation.

I say that looking at the last decade plus where the Cats QB success has been with Prukop, Murray, Andersen, Tommy, and Chambers... I just have a hard time seeing them with a pure pocket passer type.
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Grant is going to play tight-end.
 
Guys. People like Payton and Vim know more about FCS recruiting than 247. They’re meaningless outside of seeing what other schools have offered. If Vigen’s kid was an FBS QB recruit, he would have been offered by an FBS school. He’s not exactly low profile for the state of Montana.
 
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