Van Ackeren

[Ken Jones]

I know Kendrick van Ackeren is a versatile athlete, but at a little over 6' and just over 200 lbs, he is a prototype strong safety (D-I-AA) or a prototype free safety (D-I-A). The U of Hawai'i played him at weak side linebacker and he left the U of Hawai'i to play safety at the U of Montana.

Now, the U of M coaching staff is "giving him a look at linebacker." Kendrick could have stayed @ the University of Hawai'i and played Division I-A football if he was going to play weak-side linebacker. He could have sat out a year and played safety at the Pac-12 level or went to Eastern Washington University; he still can.

The business of collegiate athletics works both ways. I heard the Huskies and Cougs need prototype safeties.

boo fu%$*n hoo. If he does not like his role, then bye. So many whiny biatches all the time.

I wish it were that simple. The naive part of me thinks: anything for the team, but the practical side of me: thinks any thing to enhance his opportunity to play @ the next level as a safety.

Hurry up and wait for 2013 football.

 

[uofmman1122]

I know Kendrick van Ackeren is a versatile athlete, but at a little over 6' and just over 200 lbs, he is a prototype strong safety (D-I-AA) or a prototype free safety (D-I-A). The U of Hawai'i played him at weak side linebacker and he left the U of Hawai'i to play safety at the U of Montana.

Now, the U of M coaching staff is "giving him a look at linebacker." Kendrick could have stayed @ the University of Hawai'i and played Division I-A football if he was going to play weak-side linebacker. He could have sat out a year and played safety at the Pac-12 level or went to Eastern Washington University; he still can.

The business of collegiate athletics works both ways. I heard the Huskies and Cougs need prototype safeties.

boo fu%$*n hoo. If he does not like his role, then bye. So many whiny biatches all the time.

I wish it were that simple. The naive part of me thinks: anything for the team, but the practical side of me: thinks any thing to enhance his opportunity to play @ the next level as a safety.

Hurry up and wait for 2013 football.

If he's not outperforming the safeties that are already there, what would you rather he do?

Sit out on the bench as a third-string safety, or get playing time as a second-string weakside LB?

He'll get another chance during fall to showcase his stuff and prove he should start at safety. Any player that comes here from a bigger school and just expects the job at the position they want without earning it can GTFO.

Not saying that he thinks that, and he's doing a great job at LB, it seems, but that seriously seems to be what you're saying should happen. If he's that good, he'll earn that spot.

 

[Ken Jones]

I know Kendrick van Ackeren is a versatile athlete, but at a little over 6' and just over 200 lbs, he is a prototype strong safety (D-I-AA) or a prototype free safety (D-I-A). The U of Hawai'i played him at weak side linebacker and he left the U of Hawai'i to play safety at the U of Montana.

Now, the U of M coaching staff is "giving him a look at linebacker." Kendrick could have stayed @ the University of Hawai'i and played Division I-A football if he was going to play weak-side linebacker. He could have sat out a year and played safety at the Pac-12 level or went to Eastern Washington University; he still can.

The business of collegiate athletics works both ways. I heard the Huskies and Cougs need prototype safeties.

boo fu%$*n hoo. If he does not like his role, then bye. So many whiny biatches all the time.

I wish it were that simple. The naive part of me thinks: anything for the team, but the practical side of me: thinks any thing to enhance his opportunity to play @ the next level as a safety.

Hurry up and wait for 2013 football.

If he's not outperforming the safeties that are already there, what would you rather he do?

Sit out on the bench as a third-string safety, or get playing time as a second-string weakside LB?

He'll get another chance during fall to showcase his stuff and prove he should start at safety. Any player that comes here from a bigger school and just expects the job at the position they want without earning it can GTFO.

Not saying that he thinks that, and he's doing a great job at LB, it seems, but that seriously seems to be what you're saying should happen. If he's that good, he'll earn that spot.

If it were me, if I wasn't starting, then I'd be sitting and enhancing my skills @ safety for 3 years or moving on and sitting out a year @ U of Dub, Wazzu or a Pac-12 program. Otherwise, why did I leave the U of Hawai'i? But, it's not me.

Kendrick van Ackeren will be an All-American @ safety or weak-side linebacker ... he's that versatile and he's a team player. Hmmm, do they've All-Americans in Division l-AA?

"Sophomore Kendrick Van Ackeren, a transfer from Hawaii who was just moved from safety to linebacker this week, had a scrimmage-high 9 tackles."

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[griz4life]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

 

[grizfan95]

By the time fall rolls around, I have a very strong feeling Van Ackeren will find himself at safety.

 

[mtgrizrule]

By the time fall rolls around, I have a very strong feeling Van Ackeren will find himself at safety.

:thumb:

 

[GrizMusician]

I'm just happy that we are finding a way to have this exceptional athlete on the field!

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[HighLineGRIZ]

I know Kendrick van Ackeren is a versatile athlete, but at a little over 6' and just over 200 lbs, he is a prototype strong safety (D-I-AA) or a prototype free safety (D-I-A). The U of Hawai'i played him at weak side linebacker and he left the U of Hawai'i to play safety at the U of Montana.

Now, the U of M coaching staff is "giving him a look at linebacker." Kendrick could have stayed @ the University of Hawai'i and played Division I-A football if he was going to play weak-side linebacker. He could have sat out a year and played safety at the Pac-12 level or went to Eastern Washington University; he still can.

The business of collegiate athletics works both ways. I heard the Huskies and Cougs need prototype safeties.

boo fu%$*n hoo. If he does not like his role, then bye. So many whiny biatches all the time.

I wish it were that simple. The naive part of me thinks: anything for the team, but the practical side of me: thinks any thing to enhance his opportunity to play @ the next level as a safety.

Hurry up and wait for 2013 football.

If he's not outperforming the safeties that are already there, what would you rather he do?

Sit out on the bench as a third-string safety, or get playing time as a second-string weakside LB?

He'll get another chance during fall to showcase his stuff and prove he should start at safety. Any player that comes here from a bigger school and just expects the job at the position they want without earning it can GTFO.

Not saying that he thinks that, and he's doing a great job at LB, it seems, but that seriously seems to be what you're saying should happen. If he's that good, he'll earn that spot.

+1

Reason he isn't starting at S is because he hasn't earned it yet. Maybe he will by the time fall comes around. In the meantime you help your team and get better as a football player. He had a good game last night. That will help his cause competing for that S spot.

We've had plenty of drop downs before that were great prospects that couldn't earn the starting job. I think your son probably will, but whining about it won't make it happen...

 

[Ken Jones]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

 

[granitegriz]

Ken--good points, but hopefully every one of your points will be taken care of. The kicking game will be just fine. Lider is young. Yes, he will miss a time or two or three, but he has amazing potential. A major point remains that the snaps have got to be in the right place and quicker. The snaps were too slow last night which caused Lider to kick too fast (at least on of the kicks). Yes, the secondary was beat yesterday. However, they have been solid. Yesterday was MORE of a credit to JJ than a total bummer for the secondary. Last year's spring game under the lights, JJ sliced and diced the complete secondary. JJ knows their coverages and weaknesses inside and out. Also, Wags was not playing last night. The DEs will get a lot more pressure this fall than they did last night. Danny Kistler Jr., after being named captain, came out played the best he is ever has which I hope continues. So getting down at the safeties at this point, particularly after a sold spring for the secondary, is jumping the gun in a like manner as those who jumped the gun (like myself) regarding the recent offensive woes. Only time will tell.

 

[BWahlberg]

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

Sums up the concerns of the 2013 season right there.

 

[PlayerRep]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

 

[grizd]

If the kid is a prototypical safety the nfl will find him even if he is at linebacker. That is as long as he plays hard there too. Just ask Darren Woodson he seemed to handle the transition alright.

Ken, if you know him personally I would encourage him to show the nfl what he can do on the field and let their scouts place him in a position. Many of todays stars in the nfl are not playing the same position in the league as they did in college.

 

[Ken Jones]

Ken--good points, but hopefully every one of your points will be taken care of. The kicking game will be just fine. Lider is young. Yes, he will miss a time or two or three, but he has amazing potential. A major point remains that the snaps have got to be in the right place and quicker. The snaps were too slow last night which caused Lider to kick too fast (at least on of the kicks). Yes, the secondary was beat yesterday. However, they have been solid. Yesterday was MORE of a credit to JJ than a total bummer for the secondary. Last year's spring game under the lights, JJ sliced and diced the complete secondary. JJ knows their coverages and weaknesses inside and out. Also, Wags was not playing last night. The DEs will get a lot more pressure this fall than they did last night. Danny Kistler Jr., after being named captain, came out played the best he is ever has which I hope continues. So getting down at the safeties at this point, particularly after a sold spring for the secondary, is jumping the gun in a like manner as those who jumped the gun (like myself) regarding the recent offensive woes. Only time will tell.

I'm excited to watch and follow Kendrick (KVA) @ Montana. Just a little jacked up on KVA's possibilities, the potential of Marquin Russell (Lakes High School in Lakewood, WA) and Montana's potential.

In today's world, I've a perverse way of liking sports' teams and coaching soccer. I point out flaws; I nudge for better performances and I thank 'em for tolerating an ol' skool coach and former collegiate student-athlete.

Like my U18 girls' soccer team, the Seattle Seahawks, Cal-Berkeley, Washington State and the Lakes Lancers, Montana has some work to accomplish before the 2013 season.

Let's Go.

 

[Spanky]

Ken....the Griz will be very strong this year and Van Ackeren is a talented addition among many others. UM will be a contender for the Big Sky championship and beyond beating state college on the way.

 

[Ken Jones]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

Obviously, you disagree with my assessment; that's your prerogative. Others agree with my assessment. Some agree with yours. That's life.

Here's a statement that you may support: 2013 U of Montana Football has a lot of potential to be realized. :thumb:

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

Obviously, you disagree with my assessment; that's your prerogative. Others agree with my assessment. Some agree with yours. That's life.

Here's a possible statement that you may support: 2013 U of Montana Football has a lot of potential to be realized. :thumb:

Ken:

Be careful debating PlayerRep on this board. As Growler used to say, PR played flag football for Dart-Mouth in the early 1970's. He knows what he is talking about.

 

[Griz2k]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

Why can't you simply disagree with someone else's assessment/opinion without being a total dick about it?

 

[mtgrizrule]

If the Griz were short linebackers this week and put KVA in, what's the big deal? You put your best players on the field. Obviously there were other athletes who didn't get the chance and just like KVA they're fighting for a fall camp spot. KVA seems to have a spot. Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

Why can't you simply disagree with someone else's assessment/opinion without being a total dick about it?

Somehow beyond me, opinions are wrong if they are not shared by him. Everyone with an opinion of anything is wrong. It is that simple. :thumb:

 

[PlayerRep]

Kendrick is a team player; he'll play where he's needed and do his best to earn the position.

Based on the scrimmage I saw, it's in the secondary.

Here are the challenges with the secondary (based on the scrimmage) from my perspective:

1) The coaches gotta disguise the coverage better ... J.J. picked apart the secondary like he design it
2) The cornerbacks have to tackle at the collegiate level ... it ain't high school anymore; use the body
3) The safeties have to stop cheatin' ... they're gettin' caught 99% of the time ... Hermanson kept gettin' beat like he stole somethin' ... lol
4) The coaches gotta get the kickin' game workin' a lot better ... 3 points are better than 0 points
5) The coaches gotta go to work 'cause the littlest things will lose games or win games

A lot to improve before the 2013 Season ... let's go to work.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Please confirm that you attended the scrimmage.

The "coaches" have to disguise coverage better? You have to be kidding. Coaches don't disguise coverage; players do. It was a scrimmage, and against our own offense. Disguise coverage? Jeez, what are you talking about.

So what does corner tackling have to do with safety play or the position KVA should play?

Nope, Hermanson wasn't gettting beat alot. Just wasn't happening. You are blind or very biased.

The coaches are not kicking the FG's; players are. Maybe there needs to be another kicker brought in to keep, but why would you blame FG kicking on the coaches in the spring game?

Your point no. 5 is just plain dumb.

The team looked very good in spring ball, on both sides of the ball. There is huge potential on this team.

Obviously, you disagree with my assessment; that's your prerogative. Others agree with my assessment. Some agree with yours. That's life.

Here's a possible statement that you may support: 2013 U of Montana Football has a lot of potential to be realized. :thumb:

Ken:

Be careful debating PlayerRep on this board. As Growler used to say, PR played flag football for Dart-Mouth in the early 1970's. He knows what he is talking about.

Dartmouth's 1970 team was pretty good for a "flag football" team.

"That year Dartmouth was undefeated and untied, producing such outstanding stats that it was ranked 14th in both the AP and UPI final polls, ahead of Oklahoma, Penn State and Southern Cal. Dartmouth's 9-0 record included six shutouts—four in a row to end the season. Among major colleges that year Dartmouth ranked second in total defense and sixth in total offense, and led the country in scoring defense."

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