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Upset Guesses, Nov 29

What upsets are most likely?

  • Yale (8-2) at Youngstown State (8-4)

    Votes: 10 14.3%
  • Harvard (9-1) at Villanova (9-2)

    Votes: 12 17.1%
  • Central Connecticut (8-4) at Rhode Island (10-2)

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Lamar (8-4) at Abilene Christian (8-4)

    Votes: 8 11.4%
  • Illinois State (8-4) at SE Louisiana (9-3)

    Votes: 21 30.0%
  • North Dakota (7-5) at Tennessee Tech (11-1)

    Votes: 46 65.7%
  • New Hampshire (8-4) at South Dakota State (8-4)

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Drake (8-3) at South Dakota (8-4)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    70

IdaGriz01

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I decided to do another of these since the Griz get to sit back and … not relax, but whatever they do with a long bye. And we as fans would be left twiddling our thumbs (usually more bitching and complaining). So this go-round allows us to look at the other FCS games coming up. Of course, the selection committee has already picked the favorites (all seeded and getting to play at home). Turns out, there are several very interesting matchups (plus some total clunkers) Of course, we are free to pick our own favorites and vote for upsets.

As usual in the past, the team on the left is the underdog that might pull off the upset. You are allowed two choices, and you can change your votes later if you want to.

Disclaimer/Reminder: For reasons I have explained before, I do not include Big Sky games in these polls.

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Discussion
As you’d expect at this stage, we will not find a lot of common opponents for many of these matchups. For most cases. the question boils down to who they beat and who they lost to.

Yale at Youngstown State seems like a reasonable matchup, since they won the same number of games. Yale is here, of course, because they beat Harvard. One of their two losses was to Lehigh, a high-seeded playoff team. The Penguins lost to an FBS and to South Dakota State, and beat Illinois State and Southern Illinois. Can the Bulldogs pull off the upset? They looked really good against Harvard, so I think they can … especially if YSU takes them lightly.

The Harvard at Villanova game is another one that is hard to call because the Ivies play fewer games. At bottom, Harvard did not play anyone of consequence, with wins at the likes of Stetson (3-9), Merrimack (4-8), and Columbia (2-8) before their loss at Yale. Villanova’s losses were to Penn State and ranked Monmouth, with a win over playoff-bound New Hampshire. [Spare some sympathy for Monmouth, which went 9-3 and still did not get a bid.] This is another case where I see the Crimson having a chance only if the Wildcats think they have an easy draw.

It is hard to make any case for the Central Connecticut at Rhode Island game to be competitive. The Blue Devils lost to a weak FBS, but also to a pitiful Merrimack team. They barely won over Sacred Heart in OT and Wagner (also in OT). Rhode Island is battle tested, with a win over playoff team New Hampshire. Still … “on any given Saturday.”

The Lamar at Abilene Christian game features two teams with identical records. Lamar lost to an FBS opponent and to highly-ranked Stephen F. Austin. They won over SE Louisiana and South Dakota. Abilene Christian lost two FBS games but won over Stephen F, Austin and Tarleton. I see this game as a genuine tossup that could go either way.

Next up, I expect SE Louisiana to have its hands full with Illinois State. The Lions are a quality team, their only losses being to two FBS opponents and ranked Lamar. Trouble is, SELA played a pretty weak schedule outside of that, with wins over pitiful Northwestern State (1-11) and Mississippi Valley State (1-10). So the Redbirds are much more battle-tested, with Missouri Valley wins over South Dakota and South Dakota State.

The North Dakota at Tennessee Tech game is another that features a battle-tested Missouri Valley team against a member of a much weaker conference. Certainly the Golden Eagles did what they had to do with the schedule they had. Their only loss was to an FBS opponent and they beat up on the likes of Davidson (2-10), Eastern Illinois (3-9) and Tennessee State (2-10). But their only “quality” wins were over Garden-Webb (7-5) and UT-Martin (6-6). Are they ready to take on an opponent that’s been through the MVFC meat-grinder? We’ll find out.

The next game poses an interesting question: Is South Dakota State back for real, or did they just play above themselves, still without the original QB1? Looking over accounts of the OT win over North Dakota, I personally have my doubts. Still, the Jacks’ did win. And on the other side, it’s hard to have a lot of confidence in New Hampshire. They feasted on the CAA cupcakes (Albany, 2-10; Campbell, 2-10; Bryant, 3-9), but lost to the better CAA opponents (Villanova and Rhode Island). They did have a good win against Monmouth (9-3), but were unimpressive against Willian & Mary (7-5) and Maine (6-6). Overall, I rate this one another tossup … so I have no idea of who gets to visit Missoula the following week.

The game between Drake and South Dakota is hard to see as anything but a mismatch. The Bulldogs have a nice record (one D-II win, however). but they lost every time they played a quality OOC opponent. Otherwise, the conference is simply too weak to get them ready for stiff competition. I expect them to get blasted, just like they did when they visited the Coyotes back in September. (What’s up with that, BTW? I thought the committee tried to avoid that in the first round.)
 
Yale and Youngstown State in the battle of the Y's I think will be close, but the pesky Penguins prevail to hold off the upset.

In the first Northeast region CAA advancement bid, Villanova makes it a closer game than they should but slides past Harvard in a close one and the Ivies are 0-2 in their first playoff adventures.

Game two of the Northeast region doubleheader has the Rams of Rhode Island crushing CCSU.

Lamar has been very inconsistent this year, but Abilene Christian is perfect at home and that will be enough to get the Wildcats past the Cardinals in this Texas battle.

The Southland just isn't what it used to be and while SE Louisiana will give visiting Illinois State some problems, the Redbirds pull off the minor upset on the road over the Lions.

North Dakota surprised a lot of people getting in as the only 7-5 team in the field. Tennessee State hasn't face this level of opponent this year, and in this battle of the birds, the Fighting Hawks will prove to be more than the Golden Eagles can handle.

Out on the road the current members of the CAA are far weaker, which does not bode well in a weaker CAA. Jack Henry played at QB last week again for the bunnies, but they don't need Chase Mason to take out this bunch of kitties.

Drake's head to head win over Presbyterian held up to earn the automatic bid and it won't last long as they head to Vermillion to face the Yotes who will win big.
 
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Yale and Youngstown State in the battle of the Y's I think will be close, but the pesky Penguins prevail to hold off the upset.

In the first Northeast region CAA advancement bid, Villanova makes it a closer game than they should but slides past Harvard in a close one and the Ivies are 0-2 in their first playoff adventures.

Game to of the Northeast region doubleheader has the Rams of Rhode Island crushing CCSU.

Lamar has been very inconsistent this year, but Abilene Christian is perfect at home and that will be enough to get the Wildcats past the Cardinals in this Texas battle.

The Southland just isn't what it used to be and while SE Louisiana will give visiting Illinois State some problems, the Redbirds pull off the minor upset on the road over the Lions.

North Dakota surprised a lot of people getting in as the only 7-5 team in the field. Tennessee State hasn't face this level of opponent this year, and in this battle of the birds, the Fighting Hawks will prove to be more than the Golden Eagles can handle.

Out on the road the current members of the CAA are far weaker, which does not bode well in a weaker CAA. Jack Henry played at QB last week again for the bunnies, but they don't need Chase Mason to take out this bunch of kitties.

Drake's head to head win over Presbyterian held up to earn the automatic bid and it won't last long as they head to Vermillion to face the Yotes who will win big.
Great stuff! Thanks for the input.
 
Slightly surprised to see a vote for an upset of Rhode Island. Someone who is waiting for the Rams to lay an egg? After all, historically, they seem to find away to do that later in the season. :)
 
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I picked Illinois state and NoDak. Easy way out there. That said, there is always seems to be a good team from a bad conference that surprises. Tenn Tech? I mean they are 11-1 and understand how to win.
 
I’d like to see the Ivy League get blown out so they won’t make the same mistake again by allowing 2 of those punk ass schools in the playoffs ever again!!!!
I thought they'd be competitive enough so this would not happen ... until we watched a recording of the Harvard–Yale game. Now I'm not so sure. No question, both teams have some good players, but the overall effect was rather underwhelming. In the end, the supposedly better team ended up with under 100 yards rushing. The Crimson did manage over 300 yards passing, but their QB1 barely managed to complete half his passes (23/43 ... abt 53%). Yale did not look all that better as a team, they just played way better. Even the announcers admitted that the difference was probably a matter of motivation: Yale pretty much had to win to get a bid, while Harvard thought – deep down – that they were a lock (which proved true, of course).
 
Since we've rolled up a lot of votes, it's maybe time for a kind of "side bet." Which one do you see as the mostly likely big blow-out? I'm leaning toward Rhode Island over C-Conn. Toward the latter part of the season, the Rhodies started to pile up a lot of points. I don't know if this one is any kind of "rivalry," but I'd guess that recruit pretty much the same areas.
 
Since we've rolled up a lot of votes, it's maybe time for a kind of "side bet." Which one do you see as the mostly likely big blow-out? I'm leaning toward Rhode Island over C-Conn. Toward the latter part of the season, the Rhodies started to pile up a lot of points. I don't know if this one is any kind of "rivalry," but I'd guess that recruit pretty much the same areas.
I'm with you on this one, and they have actually only played 5 times with Rhode Island holding a 4-1 edge.
I have to go with South Dakota rolling up the points on Drake though. The PFL and the NEC are equally inept, but I feel like the Yotes are more capable of running up the scores.
 
I'm with you on this one, and they have actually only played 5 times with Rhode Island holding a 4-1 edge.
I have to go with South Dakota rolling up the points on Drake though. The PFL and the NEC are equally inept, but I feel like the Yotes are more capable of running up the scores.
The Drake game seems like the obvious second choice. I went the other way because the Yotes already know they can beat up on the Bulldogs, so I figured they would take their foot off the gas sooner ... get those subs in to avoid injuries to the starters.
 
Well, my picks came in ... which I do not consider a huge accomplishment. Have to admit, I would never have picked Yale for a "genuine" upset. Add: Did not think Harvard would win, but did not think they would get crushed.
 

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