Updated playoff contenders 11/12/18

[Jaredkuehn]

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

For the selection committee's purpose, will they dissect individual games like that? I would think they simply see a 10 point road loss to a really good Weber State team.

I don't think they would factor in that it was a tied game at the end of the third quarter as a strength for MSU. I also don't think they'll factor in that Weber outscored the Cat 27-7 after the first quarter as a strength for Weber.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

For the selection committee's purpose, will they dissect individual games like that? I would think they simply see a 10 point road loss to a really good Weber State team.

I don't think they would factor in that it was a tied game at the end of the third quarter as a strength for MSU. I also don't think they'll factor in that Weber outscored the Cat 27-7 after the first quarter as a strength for Weber.

Nor will they look at two tipped passes in the first two minutes of the game which essentially gave MSU the ball twice on the goal line. This led to an instant 10 point head start. That did make the game exciting for cat fans but it skewed the results making the game look far more competitive than it really was.

Weber dug itself out of that initial hole, started rolling, then sealed the deal. The cat interceptions certainly count, and gave them a quick lead. However the remaining 55 minutes of the game were fairly one sided with Weber clearly in charge.

 

[ilovethecats]

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

Oh my god you’re still on a Griz Board as a cats fan trying to convince fans from a rival team why the cats should be viewed as relevant. Maybe try that on your own board. News flash for you, FTC all day every day. Getting outscored 27-7 from the second quarter on is getting OWNED on all levels. Seeing that any other way is asinine.

So I assume you think yesterday’s game was a blowout right? Not competitive? After all we outscored you 22-3 after halftime..... :lol:

Owned on all levels I guess. Ha

 

[PlayerRep]

I see that WI ended up 5-6 and UNI 6-5 (and tied for 3d in the MV).

 

[HookedonGriz]

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

Oh my god you’re still on a Griz Board as a cats fan trying to convince fans from a rival team why the cats should be viewed as relevant. Maybe try that on your own board. News flash for you, FTC all day every day. Getting outscored 27-7 from the second quarter on is getting OWNED on all levels. Seeing that any other way is asinine.

So I assume you think yesterday’s game was a blowout right? Not competitive? After all we outscored you 22-3 after halftime..... :lol:

Owned on all levels I guess. Ha

Yep your team owned us on all levels in the second half, exactly like Weber owned yours. Still confused i see. Not surprised you’d come here to gloat and hope for relevance. It’s what cats fans do.

 

[ilovethecats]

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

Oh my god you’re still on a Griz Board as a cats fan trying to convince fans from a rival team why the cats should be viewed as relevant. Maybe try that on your own board. News flash for you, FTC all day every day. Getting outscored 27-7 from the second quarter on is getting OWNED on all levels. Seeing that any other way is asinine.

So I assume you think yesterday’s game was a blowout right? Not competitive? After all we outscored you 22-3 after halftime..... :lol:

Owned on all levels I guess. Ha

Yep your team owned us on all levels in the second half, exactly like Weber owned yours. Still confused i see. Not surprised you’d come here to gloat and hope for relevance. It’s what cats fans do.

Didn’t gloat. Not my style. I thought it was a great game and very competitive.

To each their own....