Updated playoff contenders 11/12/18

[marceagfan5]

Who cares about Eastern I’m not here to argue for them.

I’m just saying as the season sits right now, SDSU, EWU, and Weber are all ranked in the top 5 and there isn’t a team in the top 5 right now, that UM played. That’s out of both UM And MSUs control but the post I was speaking to was discussing both teams strength of schedule...and I think MSU is way ahead in that category. No one cares about all the 4-6 or 3-7 teams each team played....

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

I can agree with you on that...actually with the committee keeping Eastern out last year they basically told everyone it was better to schedule cupcakes and get 8 or 9 wins than play a difficult schedule and get 7.

I think MSU had the tougher slate, I’d argue the same for the Griz if SDSU and uni flipped records...but I don’t think MSU deserves more credit for consideration because of the tough schedule as the games weren’t close. I think the committee tends to look at who you beat or are capable of beating rather than your losses when comparing bubble teams anyways

 

[HookedonGriz]

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

I can agree with you on that...actually with the committee keeping Eastern out last year they basically told everyone it was better to schedule cupcakes and get 8 or 9 wins than play a difficult schedule and get 7.

I think MSU had the tougher slate, I’d argue the same for the Griz if SDSU and uni flipped records...but I don’t think MSU deserves more credit for consideration because of the tough schedule as the games weren’t close. I think the committee tends to look at who you beat or are capable of beating rather than your losses when comparing bubble teams anyways

It was an absolute shame what the committee did to EWU last year. That’s why we can never trust a room of idiots to get it right. EWU would have easily won a couple (maybe more) playoff games last year. Instead we watch these auto qualifiers from crap conferences lose by 40.

 

[marceagfan5]

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

I can agree with you on that...actually with the committee keeping Eastern out last year they basically told everyone it was better to schedule cupcakes and get 8 or 9 wins than play a difficult schedule and get 7.

I think MSU had the tougher slate, I’d argue the same for the Griz if SDSU and uni flipped records...but I don’t think MSU deserves more credit for consideration because of the tough schedule as the games weren’t close. I think the committee tends to look at who you beat or are capable of beating rather than your losses when comparing bubble teams anyways

It was an absolute shame what the committee did to EWU last year. That’s why we can never trust a room of idiots to get it right. EWU would have easily won a couple (maybe more) playoff games last year. Instead we watch these auto qualifiers from crap conferences lose by 40.

Agreed...That’s why I hope the Montana, Montana state winner gets a bid this year, as I think they definitely deserve one, just not sure they will get one…

 

[behappp]

Do you think the type of beat down on the scats will matter? A squeaker or an ass kicking like our previous 2 wins.

It doesnt really matter...if Bobby has the opportunity to hang 100 on the Cats he will.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. Do you or anyone think our chances of getting a playoff game is predicated on how badly we beat the scats?

 

[PlayerRep]

Who cares about Eastern I’m not here to argue for them.

I’m just saying as the season sits right now, SDSU, EWU, and Weber are all ranked in the top 5 and there isn’t a team in the top 5 right now, that UM played. That’s out of both UM And MSUs control but the post I was speaking to was discussing both teams strength of schedule...and I think MSU is way ahead in that category. No one cares about all the 4-6 or 3-7 teams each team played....

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

I agree with you, Hooked, on both points. Here's what he said:

"their schedule is much more brutal that the griz."

 

[PlayerRep]

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

I can agree with you on that...actually with the committee keeping Eastern out last year they basically told everyone it was better to schedule cupcakes and get 8 or 9 wins than play a difficult schedule and get 7.

I think MSU had the tougher slate, I’d argue the same for the Griz if SDSU and uni flipped records...but I don’t think MSU deserves more credit for consideration because of the tough schedule as the games weren’t close. I think the committee tends to look at who you beat or are capable of beating rather than your losses when comparing bubble teams anyways

It was an absolute shame what the committee did to EWU last year. That’s why we can never trust a room of idiots to get it right. EWU would have easily won a couple (maybe more) playoff games last year. Instead we watch these auto qualifiers from crap conferences lose by 40.

I am fine with the auto-quailers, because those are the rules. I don't like the second team from the weak conferences getting in over teams from tough conferences which have gotten beaten up a bit in their tough conferences, or, in the case this year, by teams from the other tough conferences.

 

[PlayerRep]

Do you think the type of beat down on the scats will matter? A squeaker or an ass kicking like our previous 2 wins.

It doesnt really matter...if Bobby has the opportunity to hang 100 on the Cats he will.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. Do you or anyone think our chances of getting a playoff game is predicated on how badly we beat the scats?

I do. UM is on the bottom side of the bubble. It needs every little positive to get into the playoffs. Even a convincing win might not be enough.

 

[ilovethecats]

Who cares about Eastern I’m not here to argue for them.

I’m just saying as the season sits right now, SDSU, EWU, and Weber are all ranked in the top 5 and there isn’t a team in the top 5 right now, that UM played. That’s out of both UM And MSUs control but the post I was speaking to was discussing both teams strength of schedule...and I think MSU is way ahead in that category. No one cares about all the 4-6 or 3-7 teams each team played....

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Do you think the type of beat down on the scats will matter? A squeaker or an ass kicking like our previous 2 wins.

It doesnt really matter...if Bobby has the opportunity to hang 100 on the Cats he will.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. Do you or anyone think our chances of getting a playoff game is predicated on how badly we beat the scats?

Nope, I think the comittee will view us as a bubble team with a 3 game win streak. If we win I think we have a decent chance.

 

[HookedonGriz]

So now all you have to do is lose by a lot to top teams to be considered? I mean they got ran out of SDSU, and were not competitive at all vs EWU or Weber. Why in the world would such bad losses help them.

Again, I wasn’t arguing who should be considered I was just saying MSU had a tougher schedule and why...

You said MSU SOS is way ahead of the Griz. Most sites that rank SOS have them pretty darn close. My biggest argument in all of this is the fact that MSU is getting love for having losses to 3 top rated teams. I don’t get where that makes any sense. Why in the world would awful losses get you any credit. I can see if they were competitive in those but they were far from it.

Oh my god you’re still on that? The cats weren’t competitive in 2 of those games. Against pretty dang good teams. We were VERY competitive against Weber.

Tied entering the 4th.
Weber goes up 7
Cats get ball to tie and punt
Weber gets ball to go up more and punts.
Cats get the ball again to try and tie with about 7 minutes left.
Cats throw a pick trying to score tying td
Weber makes field goal with less than 2 minutes left to go up by 10.

It’s nothing but lame smack talk to suggest a game we were trying to tie with less than 7 minutes left in the game wasn’t close. But I guess this is the week for asinine arguments.

You don’t have to like the “good loss” argument. Hell, you don’t have to like them using strength of schedule at all. But they do use those. And when comparing two teams with near identical resumes you begin to compare losses. And losing games to three teams in the top 5 will usually beat out a team with a similar resume who lost to crappier teams. It’s how it’s always been. How it will always be.

Best thing to do is to not be in this stupid in/out situation in the first place.

Oh my god you’re still on a Griz Board as a cats fan trying to convince fans from a rival team why the cats should be viewed as relevant. Maybe try that on your own board. News flash for you, FTC all day every day. Getting outscored 27-7 from the second quarter on is getting OWNED on all levels. Seeing that any other way is asinine.

 

[marceagfan5]

FWIW here is hero sports take...

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-playoff-predictions-maine-towson-ndsu-bzbz?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Link

 

[PlayerRep]

FWIW here is hero sports take...

https://m.herosports.com/fcs/football-playoff-predictions-maine-towson-ndsu-bzbz?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Link

2 of the 3 have UM as a bubble team. Good news for UM.

2 of them have MT St. getting in the playoffs, so they are assuming Cats win the game. Where would they rank UM if UM won the game?

All 3 list Idaho St are getting in the playoffs.

These guys must be idiots, because they also rank Weber as a top seed. Weber plays Ida St. Weber can't be a top seed if they lose to Ida St. If Ida St loses, and is 6-5, I can't imagine they are getting into the playoffs, and certainly not over a 7-4 team from MT.

These 3 predictors confirm that MSU or UM may get into the playoffs if they win on Saturday. Close bubble teams. All 3 have Idaho St getting into the playoffs. Assuming Ida St loses to Weber, there will be one more open slot for MSU/UM.

 

[first11]

Cat Griz comes down to play in game, perhaps our best and only shot is win here Saturday

As many have noted in thread, a lot of ‘stuff’ would have to align for Griz

Even if UM has no post win shot just keeping our little pals to the east home for holidays is good enough for me.

 

[PlayerRep]

These 2 games hurt the Griz last weekend:

Stony Brook (7-3, 5-2 conf. )

Bubble head-to-head: Wins - Dela.; Losses - Towson, JMU

The Seawolves may have saved its season last week with a big win against Delaware. If they would have lost, their 7-4 record wouldn't have looked overly impressive as far as wins. Now, Stony Brook has to avoid an upset at the hands of CAA winless Albany and it's in the bracket.

Playoff chances: Likely

OVC

SEMO (7-3, 5-2 conf.)

Bubble head-to-head: Wins - JSU; Losses - EKU

SEMO cost itself the auto-bid by blowing a 31-0 second-quarter lead and losing 40-38 to Murray State, which gave Jacksonville State the OVC championship. SEMO has to hope the committee gives this conference an at-large bid, something that hasn't happened in a few years. The Redhawks should beat Eastern Illinois this weekend, and with an 8-3 record and a 37-14 win vs. JSU, they have a good shot to make the bracket.

Playoff chances: Likely

 

[Paytonlives]

https://twitter.com/HEROSportsHerd/status/1063259436444192769

 

[Paytonlives]

Good news for UM

 

[IdaGriz01]

https://twitter.com/HEROSportsHerd/status/1063259436444192769

Yep, and Nichols ended up blowing out SELA.

I thought a couple weeks ago that the Southland might end up as a one (auto) bid conference, the way they were beating each other up. To compound the problem, Southland teams only played a handful of games against FCS opponents in their OOC schedule. There were one or two D-II games, and quite a few blow-out losses in FBS money games. (And some of the FBS opponents were pretty weak.)

BTW: Incarnate Word plays Iowa State (#16 FBS rank) tomorrow, so there’s no way they can end up with 7 D-I wins … so they’re out of the mix.

 

[your wrong]

UND to me feels like they are being looked at as a big sky team in the eyes of egriz. The playoff committee will look at them as independent. I want to look at them as a mvfc team that if the get in would be the 3rd team. I really feel like a loss for ISU puts us in automatically if the committee sees it that way.
With a w over state.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I don't think we get in if we can't beat the bobkittens. :roll: :lol:

 

[Htowngriz]

I don't think we get in if we can't beat the bobkittens. :roll: :lol:

Nor should we, just like the last two years. :x