Not so sure MSU is winning any recruiting battles against UM, as the Griz have won 3 of the last 4 brawls and still place more players in the NFL than the Cats.
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Brock Landers
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I'd say about 20% of their fans are able to see through their hate and accept this. The rest will rationalize it with injuries or claim stolen signals, or helmets that don't fit right, and still boast they were the better team.MrTitleist said:
Big G said:
Give it a rest already. :roll:
get'em_griz said:
This is why it is very important to UM to do well with in-state recruiting. No. 2 may be more important than no. 1.
1. Because there are not enough scholarships to attract enough out-of-state recruits, UM needs to find a 12-15 good players from Montana each year. Getting the bulk of the best players in MT is important, but get others, including walk-ons, who will become starters, will provide depth, be good on special teams, will work hard on and off the field, including in practice and the weight room, and will be good kids, is equally or more important. Note that most out-of-staters will not come to UM without a full or almost full scholarship; and various scholarships kids won't pan out. MT kids will, including the many who walk on, will come without full rides or any scholarship.
2. The heart of the work ethic and tradition of UM football is within the MT kids. They lead the way in the weight room and other team activities. They are a large part of the nucleus of what UM football has become in the recent decades. They are not always stars or even starters, but their leadership is a large part of what drives the high quality and success of UM football. This comes directly from former UM coaches, including strength coaches. Of course, this does not mean that many non-MT players are also very important in this same role and otherwise. They are also critical to UM football and its success.
griz4life said:
You don't need to disrespect those kids who I bet are trying to do everything in their power to get better for this program. So you (and many other posters) don't see any value with MT players on the team?
This thread isn't about who is better: MT recruits vs out of state recruits. Don't know why so many on this board try to make it into that. Everyone agrees to recruit the best player wherever they are. This is only about the kids both Cats and Griz are both recruiting in state with the same walk on or partials opportunity at both schools. Many have chose the cats so far. The facts are it is hard to get out of state kids to walk on or with partials. Glad we have some MT raised alum coaches back who might be able to help swing that back to our side before Feb 1 of this year and for surely by next fall.
UMGriz75
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I.M.O.#90-C.C. said:
Something about dying angels ....
The kids that are being recruited are being recruited because they have talent or potential. I think your point, a good one, is that MSU is recruiting the same ones that UM is recruiting, and for the same reasons. And MSU is, perhaps, being somewhat more successful at it.
MSU also has had an eight year football administration in place, and I do think that suggests a useful continuity in the recruiting process, as the Josh Hill episode suggests.
George Ferguson
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i agree with PR, getting Montana kids is BIG. I'm also though on the other side too, as in I'm not butt-hurt and don't think the ship be sinkin because MSU is getting them. I'll say this, Gunnar Brekke is already a junior eligibity-wise, and is 0-2 against Montana. That doesn't show me that the in-state battle is causing the Griz any harm right now.
Also, I can see the panic button being pounded if it was 2011 or earlier and MSU was landing every in-state prospect like they are this season, BUT, we all knew this was coming. We all knew the scholly reduction was gonna hurt here the most. and a coaching change will certainly add to that effect.
Also, I can see the panic button being pounded if it was 2011 or earlier and MSU was landing every in-state prospect like they are this season, BUT, we all knew this was coming. We all knew the scholly reduction was gonna hurt here the most. and a coaching change will certainly add to that effect.
Grisly Fan
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You don't like the choice of coach? Well TOUGH STITT! Get your Stitt together or you'll earn the nickname "Stitt for brains".Big G said:
Blgs Griz Fan
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It's important to be successful with in state recruiting. One fact that hasn't been brought up is the local connection to the team. It's great to hear the announcer call a play made by a student athlete from Deer Lodge, Havre, Whitefish, Sidney,Missoula, Butte, Bozeman, Sidney, Billings, etc. I think that creates more of a connection to the team.After all the Griz are Montana!
Allezchat said:
?? I do not know if possible....Can we as EGrizzers establish a fund of donations to support football players? If people on this site would donate $25 a season to a simple fund called "Egriz for students" I believe there would be enough funds available to buy all the books for every football player...(I was not a college student so I am speculating) I see a lot of comments on here of people talking about book cost, so they must be expensive. If not books, then the fund could be used for anything that could help our recruiting. Persons close to the team could identify these needs and then post to EGriz so everyone would know where the money was going...ie Brint W. I guess the way I look at a fund such as this is; we EGrizzers would be like a parent who is helping to pay for their children's college. I am sure it wouldn't be a lot of funds and would probably be a hassle, but it would go along way in supporting our walk-on program and especially our in-state kids their 1st years in school. I am sure NCAA would have some sort of issue, but who knows? OK, so I am nuts...talk to me.
Don't underestimate another value of Montana players. It was a huge trip from the last game at Dornblaser to the crowds we now enjoy and shouldn't, but do, take for granted. Our attendance numbers skyrocketed not only as the program became more exciting and won more games but as we won over Great Falls, Billings and Butte and other parts of the state in the recruiting battles. This increased interest and attendance from these areas both in terms of students and fans from around the state is a necessity for the program to remain on solid footing and grow even more.
reinell30 said:
GSA Mission Statement
The Montana Grizzly Scholarship Association's primary objective is to raise scholarship funds for The University of Montana student-athletes. The MGSA also assists the athletic department with various fundraising activities, and actively promotes interest in and awareness of all UM sports programs. The MGSA, through its board of directors believes that a successful athletics program enhances the University experience for student-athletes and non-student-athletes alike, as well as building a strong alliance with the community and alumni.
We believe it is the responsibility of the MGSA to help achieve these objectives by educating the general public and the student-athletes about the fiscal needs of The University of Montana's athletic program; building community support; and providing through development and fundraising programs, the private financial resources necessary to fund scholarships and other needs.
with our current scholarship challenge, wouldn't one expect to lose more Montana kids and work on the best of the best in the state..ie bingham, ryan,.....quality over quantity.....seems like it is only the reasonable common sense thing to do....spend your scholarship dollars on the best bets the state has to offer, otherwise recruit better the out of state kid....
