UMs Gone Girl

[CV Griz Fan]

UM finished ahead of New Hamp and Sam Houston St. in total defense, both of which were teams in the semifinals. Also, we were 3rd in the nation in TO margin.

On offense, UM was behind all four semifinal teams and finished 52nd in the nation for FCS. The offense was inept, mostly due to the O line.

Griz D Rankins 2014

Total D 39
Rush D 37
Pass D 56
Scoring D 19
T/O Margin 3

T/O Griz Margin by Game
Wins
CW +1
S Dak +3
UNC +1
ND +1
Sac +1
SUU +3
MSU +6
SD Even

Losses
Wyo +2
NDSU -1
Poly Even
EWU -1
EWU -2

 

[AZGrizFan]

You know why our defense spends so much time on the field?

ITS BECAUSE THEY NEVER MAKE PLAYS ON 3RD DOWN TO GET OFF THE FIELD

The defense the last 3 years is a fucking joke and there are no excuses, its the guy coordinating it. Period end of story.

Great defenses get off the field and it doesnt matter what the offense does. Just like the Bears and Ravens defenses when they won Super Bowls, they had shit offenses, the Ravens had to score on defense to put points on the board.

Anyone that knows a damn thing about football knows the Griz havent had a GOOD defense since over a decade ago.


FYI
A good defense would give up under 300 yards a game and maybe around 15-17 ppg

A great defense gives up 230-280 yards a game and under 13 ppg.

Quit lying to yourselves.

Then there's not a good defense in the FCS. :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

Our defense is great 8 out of the 11 games we play a year. It's Cal Poly and Eastern that have had our way with us. Then it's the playoffs when we play against the conferences that have actually been playing competitive football over the last 5 years and we're screwed.

A better offense should help, a more aggressive style of defense should help, that's my optimism there. The biggest shortcoming from Delaney's era in my opinion was that he lowered our standards for recruiting. So that needs to be raised to improve the defense, and hopefully the new position coaches (Semore Hall and Hendricks) will be able to make better contributions than the last set.

Good post IMO. TG's defenses have never been ranked that high on the national scene in Total D, Rushing D or Passing D. UM has been ranked high nationally in Turnover Margin for the last two years I believe. TG's D has been good at getting timely turnovers and this has allowed the Griz D to be ranked high in scoring Defense. The Griz killed a lot of drives in the Red Zone.The thing is, good teams don't turn the ball over as much. The high offensive outputs by the CC's, EWU's and NDSU's of the world in the rushing game and the passing game eventually sink the Griz D.You throw in the Crappy Griz Offensive and that's why the Griz get taken to the "woodshed" late in the year. MSU not withstanding.....

Cal Poly scored 14 points two years ago. One year does not a trend make. EWU, OTOH....

 

[ranco]

If an offense needs to "help a defense", then we have more problems than our DC.

This one brought on a belly laugh. You should go back to Maroon Blood and talk about quilting; or up your meds.

 

[getgrizzy]

So Gregoreks "improved" defense last year gave up 360 yards a game and over 5000 yards on the season.


Discuss :roll:

360 a game is very good in this age. I sense you're trying to set yourself up for the season and you're counting on the losses of Wags, Tonga and Hermanson to drag the defense down.

 

[zengriz]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

 

[getgrizzy]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

What happened?

 

[get'em_griz]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

What happened?

Quarterback was touched by a few defenders deep in offensive territory and the refs didn't call it. G was pretty fired up about the refs not calling it and said something like, "Did you not see my guys touch him back there? We can't tackle the guy!"

It was pretty funny hearing him yell during that play.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

What happened?

Quarterback was touched by a few defenders deep in offensive territory and the refs didn't call it. G was pretty fired up about the refs not calling it and said something like, "Did you not see my guys touch him back there? We can't tackle the guy!"

It was pretty funny hearing him yell during that play.

Hmmm.... Maybe if TG would have been that passionate about all the missed tackles during his first three years, that area of the D would've improved. TG will always lean to more bravado than substance IMO.....

 

[grizcountry420]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

What happened?

Quarterback was touched by a few defenders deep in offensive territory and the refs didn't call it. G was pretty fired up about the refs not calling it and said something like, "Did you not see my guys touch him back there? We can't tackle the guy!"

It was pretty funny hearing him yell during that play.

Hmmm.... Maybe if TG would have been that passionate about all the missed tackles during his first three years, that area of the D would've improved. TG will always lean to more bravado than substance IMO.....

Yup.. He's more of a raw, raw, raw guy.

 

[Htowngriz]

...anybody else see stitt settle down gregorek...
...early in the scrimmage..either taking it way to serious...
...or he had one to many bags of m and m's...

... ...

What happened?

Quarterback was touched by a few defenders deep in offensive territory and the refs didn't call it. G was pretty fired up about the refs not calling it and said something like, "Did you not see my guys touch him back there? We can't tackle the guy!"

It was pretty funny hearing him yell during that play.

Hmmm.... Maybe if TG would have been that passionate about all the missed tackles during his first three years, that area of the D would've improved. TG will always lean to more bravado than substance IMO.....

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

 

[tnt]

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

 

[Htowngriz]

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

What metric are you using for this? I'm kind of confused as to how you can lead the conference in every defensive category if you're "bad" at tackling.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

What metric are you using for this? I'm kind of confused as to how you can lead the conference in every defensive category if you're "bad" at tackling.

Leading the BSC in tackling? Quick get the trophy made....TG's defense does GREAT against MSU and the "seven sisters of the poor". I think that's the point.....

 

[grizcountry420]

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

What metric are you using for this? I'm kind of confused as to how you can lead the conference in every defensive category if you're "bad" at tackling.

Leading the BSC in tackling? Quick get the trophy made....TG's defense does GREAT against MSU and the "seven sisters of the poor". I think that's the point.....

If a team leads the conference in tackling, that means the defense is on the field WAY too much..

 

[PlayerRep]

The defense was very good last year, and Gregorak is a very good and upcoming DC. That's why Stitt kept him and has said that he's basically turned the defense over to Gregorak and the defensive coaches. Stitt could have hired someone else, so his hiring of Gregorak says a lot.

UM had the top defense in the Big Sky conference last year. And the Big Sky had more offenses putting up big numbers than any other conference. The Big Sky offenses influence defensive stats.

UM was very good in things like sacks and red zone defense last year. The offense was better last year, and didn't end up putting as much pressure on the defense as it had in prior years, but there were still games like NDSU and others (even the EWU games) in which the offense didn't perform well enough to keep the defense off the field. It is also true that the defense didn't make enough stops on 3d downs.

Anyone who says the defense wasn't good last year, is either trolling or does not have a clue about the game of football. The defense and Gregorak were very good last year. They were far from perfect, and yes, they were not a "championship" defense, but they were good and often damn good most of the time.

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

What metric are you using for this? I'm kind of confused as to how you can lead the conference in every defensive category if you're "bad" at tackling.

Leading the BSC in tackling? Quick get the trophy made....TG's defense does GREAT against MSU and the "seven sisters of the poor". I think that's the point.....

If a team leads the conference in tackling, that means the defense is on the field WAY too much..

Also, I am not saying that TG's D won't be improved in 2015. I think Stitt will be more demanding of Ty then Delaney was. Having a new boss tends to motivate you.

 

[HookedonGriz]

The defense was very good last year, and Gregorak is a very good and upcoming DC. That's why Stitt kept him and has said that he's basically turned the defense over to Gregorak and the defensive coaches. Stitt could have hired someone else, so his hiring of Gregorak says a lot.

UM had the top defense in the Big Sky conference last year. And the Big Sky had more offenses putting up big numbers than any other conference. The Big Sky offenses influence defensive stats.

UM was very good in things like sacks and red zone defense last year. The offense was better last year, and didn't end up putting as much pressure on the defense as it had in prior years, but there were still games like NDSU and others (even the EWU games) in which the offense didn't perform well enough to keep the defense off the field. It is also true that the defense didn't make enough stops on 3d downs.

Anyone who says the defense wasn't good last year, is either trolling or does not have a clue about the game of football. The defense and Gregorak were very good last year. They were far from perfect, and yes, they were not a "championship" defense, but they were good and often damn good most of the time.

You seem to enjoy pointing out others' mistakes so I figured I'd kindly let you know that UND had the best defense in the Big Sky last year. They were ranked 34 in FCS and Griz ranked 39 in FCS. I do, however, agree with the rest of your post. The Griz D is not terrible, but has room for improvement and I think we have the right coach and personnel to get there.

 

[AZGrizFan]

If you had been paying attention, you'd have noticed that tackling was markedly improved last season.

Improving from awful to bad isn't exactly "markedly improved"..... "Better "would be more appropriate

Anyone who can't see that 2014's D was light years better at the fundamentals than the 2013 D is just blind.

 

[Spanky]

The defense wasn't the problem last year. In my view, our OL continued to be our weakest link, however, I am hopeful for improvement this year.